UPS recommendations
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
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Im on a APC Back-UPS CS 650VA, works great so far. It only has 3 battery protected outputs, but you can just cut some wires, solder them back together and you can have a whole array of outlets... ( Read a bit about the UPS in my CP blog[^] )
//Johannes
Johpoke wrote:
ou can just cut some wires, solder them back together and you can have a whole array of outlets...
why not just plug a power strip into one of the powered outlets ?
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Johpoke wrote:
ou can just cut some wires, solder them back together and you can have a whole array of outlets...
why not just plug a power strip into one of the powered outlets ?
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
With all the recent power issues in South Africa, I really think UPS's should a have a 'restart your PC when the power is back on' or 'bring PC out of sleep/suspend/hibernation' option. Maybe you get this option on more expensive models.
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
I think both Costco and Sams Club sell APC, which is excellent.
Best wishes, Hans
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With all the recent power issues in South Africa, I really think UPS's should a have a 'restart your PC when the power is back on' or 'bring PC out of sleep/suspend/hibernation' option. Maybe you get this option on more expensive models.
xacc.ide - now with IronScheme support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 2 out nowWell there is a feature in BIOS, "Restore on AC power loss", with typical settings of power on, power off and last state. This would be able to turn the pc back on when power is restored to the computer (meaning the UPS went got fully discharged). Would be nice if the UPSes would soft OFF and soft ON for the PC though...
//Johannes
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
questions to ask first? * are you running vm's on host computer? * what is wattage requirements of computer? * are you running Exchange or SQL server (or any db) on machine to be shutdown. * Is computer a DC? * Is computer a gateway for other computers on network? * Are usb drives attatched to comuter in question? These must be ansewered first.
MrPlankton
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
Ive used an ultra UPS from tigerdirect.com for a few years without any issues. It came with a 3 yr product warranty and a $125,000 connected equipment warranty. It also has some software and a usb connection for monitoring the psu, or for the psu to react to an incident. This is the newer version of what I use for right around $100 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=770423&CatId=20[^] you can poke around that site and find a few higher end models as well though
DrewG, MCSD .Net
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
I've had a couple of APC Back UPS ES 500's running for a few years now with nary a problem, except when I plugged too much into them. It didn't return any errors or beep at me but it tripped and reset itself. I thought it was a power supply fault until I looked at meter in APC's PowerChute software. Oops. Got a bigger one to replace it. Had a lightning strike on the power pole just outside the window (7 metres / 20 feet) & everything survived, except for the laptop's video card (NVidia Quadro - thank Gawd for on-site warranties) but I think that was more to do with the EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) than any power surge cos the laptop is behind both the UPS surge-protection and its own AC-DC converter. I had to reset/reboot (EMP again, I think) everything but it all came back ok. Yes, it was loud.
CADbloke - The Broadcast Systems Documentation SYSTEM (one day) "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" -Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
Skip PCM Powercom brand units. Had a pair of 'em, both went flaky and would start beeping, switch to battery when line voltage OK. Tried contacting company about repair / replacement / upgrade; messages never acknowledged. Big APC 750 of same vintage still in service. James
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Johpoke wrote:
ou can just cut some wires, solder them back together and you can have a whole array of outlets...
why not just plug a power strip into one of the powered outlets ?
A power strip is OK -- provided it is NOT also a surge suppressor (which most power strips are). Most UPSs generate sawtooth wave rather the expected sine wave. A SP would consider that lots & lots of tiny surges, and it would be constantly "suppressing" them. This could lead it to overhead (and catch fire).
Truth, James
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I've had a couple of APC Back UPS ES 500's running for a few years now with nary a problem, except when I plugged too much into them. It didn't return any errors or beep at me but it tripped and reset itself. I thought it was a power supply fault until I looked at meter in APC's PowerChute software. Oops. Got a bigger one to replace it. Had a lightning strike on the power pole just outside the window (7 metres / 20 feet) & everything survived, except for the laptop's video card (NVidia Quadro - thank Gawd for on-site warranties) but I think that was more to do with the EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) than any power surge cos the laptop is behind both the UPS surge-protection and its own AC-DC converter. I had to reset/reboot (EMP again, I think) everything but it all came back ok. Yes, it was loud.
CADbloke - The Broadcast Systems Documentation SYSTEM (one day) "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" -Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
I have to agree with all who support the APC brand UPSs. I have used them for many years; I also tried Tripplite, Belkin, and IBM UPSs along the way because I found a good sale on them. The APC products have not only been worth the extra cost (often they are on sale too), but they are also consistantly solid. Sure they burn out; every UPS will over time, but APC has a great trade-in/trade-up program as well as battery replacement/UPS update kit programs. Overall, I believe APC to have the best.:cool: As to what model and size, it does depend on the system you are protecting. The basic wattage of the equipment + the special needs + power conditions in your area (at my house, the EMC changes the squirrel every weekend and causes a power bump, 'the lights blinked again; go check the computers X|) + your budget. I try to get one that is the next step up from what i need at the time since things change and power needs may increase. I'm also looking at whole house surge suppressors right now; it just seems like a good idea with little downside. Hope this helps. Be Cool, Pheadjack
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I have to agree with all who support the APC brand UPSs. I have used them for many years; I also tried Tripplite, Belkin, and IBM UPSs along the way because I found a good sale on them. The APC products have not only been worth the extra cost (often they are on sale too), but they are also consistantly solid. Sure they burn out; every UPS will over time, but APC has a great trade-in/trade-up program as well as battery replacement/UPS update kit programs. Overall, I believe APC to have the best.:cool: As to what model and size, it does depend on the system you are protecting. The basic wattage of the equipment + the special needs + power conditions in your area (at my house, the EMC changes the squirrel every weekend and causes a power bump, 'the lights blinked again; go check the computers X|) + your budget. I try to get one that is the next step up from what i need at the time since things change and power needs may increase. I'm also looking at whole house surge suppressors right now; it just seems like a good idea with little downside. Hope this helps. Be Cool, Pheadjack
Pheadjack wrote:
but APC has a great trade-in/trade-up program
when I looked at this a few months ago the only difference between it and buying new nonsale models at a boxmart was the free disposal of your old one. Waiting for a good sale would be significantly cheaper.
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I've had a couple of APC Back UPS ES 500's running for a few years now with nary a problem, except when I plugged too much into them. It didn't return any errors or beep at me but it tripped and reset itself. I thought it was a power supply fault until I looked at meter in APC's PowerChute software. Oops. Got a bigger one to replace it. Had a lightning strike on the power pole just outside the window (7 metres / 20 feet) & everything survived, except for the laptop's video card (NVidia Quadro - thank Gawd for on-site warranties) but I think that was more to do with the EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) than any power surge cos the laptop is behind both the UPS surge-protection and its own AC-DC converter. I had to reset/reboot (EMP again, I think) everything but it all came back ok. Yes, it was loud.
CADbloke - The Broadcast Systems Documentation SYSTEM (one day) "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" -Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
I also recommend APC. Every workstation here at work has one, and I got the same model to use for my home setup. It's a Back-UPS ES 725. I've had mine for 2 years, and it's kept my computer up through brown-outs that happen during thunderstorms. For the few black-outs we've had, I had plenty of time to shut everything down (I don't use the PowerChute, etc).
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Hi all, My UPS just crapped out on me, so I'm looking to replace it. Any recommendations for (or against) a particular product? I don't need anything special; the only requirement is four battery-protected outlets. Thanks, Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
I *highly* recommend APC. I've had Belkin in the past and the battery died after 1 year. The APC units are *slightly* more expensive but in this case you really do get what you pay for! I now have 3 APC RS800 units and an Ultra UPS for my NAS. My primary reason for the UPS's and the Wattage they ouput is that I only want enough time to be able to have them properly shut down. Plus, APC comes with software you can install on your computer to initiate different actions once a power outage is detected - i.e. Shutdown, Hibernate, etc. I also have several other critical things hooked up to them: 1. cable modem 2. Vonage modem 3. wireless router These are critical to me since I have Vonage and need to keep up my Internet conn. and Vonage modem in the case of a power outage. However, I also have Vonage configured to route incoming calls to my cell phone if my Vonage modem goes offline (very nice feature!). Make sure you plan ahead for a couple things: 1. What is your primary need for the UPS (obviously one of them is for Surge Protection? Is it to allow you to just have enough time to properly shut down your computer(s) or do you need it for an extended period of time? 2. Do you host any websites or applications for clients that need to be available? 3. What will you be plugging into the UPS? Just the one computer or several components like I do? Hope this helps - but definitely go with APC! :) DaveBlack
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I *highly* recommend APC. I've had Belkin in the past and the battery died after 1 year. The APC units are *slightly* more expensive but in this case you really do get what you pay for! I now have 3 APC RS800 units and an Ultra UPS for my NAS. My primary reason for the UPS's and the Wattage they ouput is that I only want enough time to be able to have them properly shut down. Plus, APC comes with software you can install on your computer to initiate different actions once a power outage is detected - i.e. Shutdown, Hibernate, etc. I also have several other critical things hooked up to them: 1. cable modem 2. Vonage modem 3. wireless router These are critical to me since I have Vonage and need to keep up my Internet conn. and Vonage modem in the case of a power outage. However, I also have Vonage configured to route incoming calls to my cell phone if my Vonage modem goes offline (very nice feature!). Make sure you plan ahead for a couple things: 1. What is your primary need for the UPS (obviously one of them is for Surge Protection? Is it to allow you to just have enough time to properly shut down your computer(s) or do you need it for an extended period of time? 2. Do you host any websites or applications for clients that need to be available? 3. What will you be plugging into the UPS? Just the one computer or several components like I do? Hope this helps - but definitely go with APC! :) DaveBlack
DaveBlack wrote:
Hope this helps - but definitely go with APC
Absolutely - thanks for the tips. I did go with an APC. Yep, my Belkin just died on me without warning. I thought about trying to replace the battery, but after reading the many negative reviews about it, I decided to just chuck it and buy a brand new one.
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
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I think both Costco and Sams Club sell APC, which is excellent.
Best wishes, Hans
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After researching, I went with an APC. Thanks, Hans.
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
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Im on a APC Back-UPS CS 650VA, works great so far. It only has 3 battery protected outputs, but you can just cut some wires, solder them back together and you can have a whole array of outlets... ( Read a bit about the UPS in my CP blog[^] )
//Johannes
Thanks for the recommendation.
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
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Ive used an ultra UPS from tigerdirect.com for a few years without any issues. It came with a 3 yr product warranty and a $125,000 connected equipment warranty. It also has some software and a usb connection for monitoring the psu, or for the psu to react to an incident. This is the newer version of what I use for right around $100 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=770423&CatId=20[^] you can poke around that site and find a few higher end models as well though
DrewG, MCSD .Net
I decided to grab an APC. Thanks for the response, though!
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles
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I've had a couple of APC Back UPS ES 500's running for a few years now with nary a problem, except when I plugged too much into them. It didn't return any errors or beep at me but it tripped and reset itself. I thought it was a power supply fault until I looked at meter in APC's PowerChute software. Oops. Got a bigger one to replace it. Had a lightning strike on the power pole just outside the window (7 metres / 20 feet) & everything survived, except for the laptop's video card (NVidia Quadro - thank Gawd for on-site warranties) but I think that was more to do with the EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) than any power surge cos the laptop is behind both the UPS surge-protection and its own AC-DC converter. I had to reset/reboot (EMP again, I think) everything but it all came back ok. Yes, it was loud.
CADbloke - The Broadcast Systems Documentation SYSTEM (one day) "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation" -Zen & the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Thanks - I did end up going with an APC. - Jon
Jon Sagara On a traffic light yellow means yield, and green means go. On a banana, it's just the opposite, yellow means go ahead, green means stop, and red means, where'd you get that banana? -- Mitch Hedberg .NET Blog | Personal Blog | Articles