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Where are new IT female employees?

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    In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

    What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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      In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

      What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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      They all got married and got kids after the DOT BOMB.

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        In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

        What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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        I was expecting this when I entered the workplace as a graduate back in september, out of around 100 people on my CS course, only 2 were females.

        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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          I was expecting this when I entered the workplace as a graduate back in september, out of around 100 people on my CS course, only 2 were females.

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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          I reckon women need more than 2 bits to keep them interested ;P

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            In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

            What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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            Oh, there are plenty out there. They're just avoiding you ;)


            I'm largely language agnostic


            After a while they all bug me :doh:


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              In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

              What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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              Our client company has devised a legacy employee-get-employee scheme, whereby if you recommend a male employee and he gets selected you get some money; but if you recommend some female and she gets selected, you get triple amount. :-\

              "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                Our client company has devised a legacy employee-get-employee scheme, whereby if you recommend a male employee and he gets selected you get some money; but if you recommend some female and she gets selected, you get triple amount. :-\

                "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                Why .... thats sexist! I like it ;)


                I'm largely language agnostic


                After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                  Why .... thats sexist! I like it ;)


                  I'm largely language agnostic


                  After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                  MidwestLimey wrote:

                  I like it

                  Me too. But the bad part of the story is none of my female friends or friends' friends are interested in network development related job. They all are happy doing SWQA testing. :((

                  "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                    MidwestLimey wrote:

                    I like it

                    Me too. But the bad part of the story is none of my female friends or friends' friends are interested in network development related job. They all are happy doing SWQA testing. :((

                    "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                    Himanshu Joshi wrote:

                    They all are happy doping

                    Fruedian slip?


                    I'm largely language agnostic


                    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                      I was expecting this when I entered the workplace as a graduate back in september, out of around 100 people on my CS course, only 2 were females.

                      He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                      Phannon wrote:

                      out of around 100 people on my CS course, only 2 were females.

                      I remember one exception class in my college. It was our immediate juniors class. They had 50 students and out of them 35 were female. :-O

                      "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                        Himanshu Joshi wrote:

                        They all are happy doping

                        Fruedian slip?


                        I'm largely language agnostic


                        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                        MidwestLimey wrote:

                        Fruedian slip?

                        bad typo. ;P

                        "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                          Phannon wrote:

                          out of around 100 people on my CS course, only 2 were females.

                          I remember one exception class in my college. It was our immediate juniors class. They had 50 students and out of them 35 were female. :-O

                          "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                          Himanshu Joshi wrote:

                          ... our immediate juniors class.

                          Is that similar to basket weaving?

                          "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

                          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            Himanshu Joshi wrote:

                            ... our immediate juniors class.

                            Is that similar to basket weaving?

                            "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

                            "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            DavidCrow wrote:

                            Is that similar to basket weaving?

                            No, that is just one of the main source of educating Indian programmers. :doh:

                            "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                              In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                              What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                              Call me pedantic, but I'd say agnostic, not atheistic :-D


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                                DavidCrow wrote:

                                Is that similar to basket weaving?

                                No, that is just one of the main source of educating Indian programmers. :doh:

                                "It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business." - Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

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                                Ohhhhh, so THAT'S why....

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                                  In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                  What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                                  z974647 wrote:

                                  Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                  Spot on.

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                                    In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                    What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                                    I was at a .NET User's Group meeting last night and the gender disparity struck me enough to comment about it to my wife when I got home. One of the presenters was a women, but of the 70-80 attendees you could count the number of females on one hand. Maybe Microsoft technology scares women for some subliminal reason!:) I should go to a Linux or Java group meeting and see if the percentage is higher there.

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                                      In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                      What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                                      1 in 10 is about average, with variations between countries and markets.

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                                        I was at a .NET User's Group meeting last night and the gender disparity struck me enough to comment about it to my wife when I got home. One of the presenters was a women, but of the 70-80 attendees you could count the number of females on one hand. Maybe Microsoft technology scares women for some subliminal reason!:) I should go to a Linux or Java group meeting and see if the percentage is higher there.

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                                        Robert Nadler wrote:

                                        I should go to a Linux or Java group meeting and see if the percentage is higher there.

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                                          In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                          What does an atheistic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                                          z974647 wrote:

                                          In the 90's, they were everywhere! Now, since we've been interviewing, we've talked to one out of about 10 interviewees? What gives? What's your take on it? Too many other college majors more desirable than IT?

                                          most of the ones I knew in the late 80's and early 90's gave up. If you are really, REALLY dedicated to the business, and this is your passion, you stayed in. But many got ill treated, and ill paid, and moved on. If you like many things, why bother with the one that gives you the most flack for your gender? One in ten actually sounds like you are ahead on the average. When I went to school there was the worry that the men would be pushed out, yet here I am still trying to encourage high school students, especially women, to join this career.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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