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  • P Pete OHanlon

    OK - I'm not normally a one for updating to the "latest kit", but I just bought one of these[^] little babies yesterday. Whoah - this is a seriously high powered phone; 8GB RAM, Music Player, Sat Nav, Video Player (comes with Spiderman 3 on it). Wait - how do I actually use it as a phone? It seems to have about 3 bazillion functions on it, but how do I turn the damn ring volume down? Oh wait - I have to change "modes". Hooboy - by the time I come to change it again I might actually have figured out how to use it.

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    Same here. I Love my N95. I tried to like the iPhone my wife gave me but it lacked the two most important features I use on phones; speed and voice dialing. So, I hacked the iPhone and then sold it on ebay for more than my wife payed for it and bought my N95. Love it.

    A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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      Same here. I Love my N95. I tried to like the iPhone my wife gave me but it lacked the two most important features I use on phones; speed and voice dialing. So, I hacked the iPhone and then sold it on ebay for more than my wife payed for it and bought my N95. Love it.

      A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Chris Austin wrote:

      So, I hacked the iPhone and then sold it on ebay for more than my wife payed for it

      Very nice. :-D I have to say that I don't really like the look of the iPhone. There's just something about it that really gets on my nerves.

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      • P Pete OHanlon

        OK - I'm not normally a one for updating to the "latest kit", but I just bought one of these[^] little babies yesterday. Whoah - this is a seriously high powered phone; 8GB RAM, Music Player, Sat Nav, Video Player (comes with Spiderman 3 on it). Wait - how do I actually use it as a phone? It seems to have about 3 bazillion functions on it, but how do I turn the damn ring volume down? Oh wait - I have to change "modes". Hooboy - by the time I come to change it again I might actually have figured out how to use it.

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        So you finally switched to Java and Flash? :-) You can sign up for Twango too, for some fast and useful results. Likely you'll have to write some filters (should be easy with WCF) too make sure you don't blast your bandwidth on that slipper :-) That is, assuming you have contract covering decent usage for those massive size and quality pics on a move. For MS tech friendly bits definitely HTC, but I heard there's been some trouble out there between the two.

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          Chris Austin wrote:

          So, I hacked the iPhone and then sold it on ebay for more than my wife payed for it

          Very nice. :-D I have to say that I don't really like the look of the iPhone. There's just something about it that really gets on my nerves.

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          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

          There's just something about it that really gets on my nerves.

          I didn't mind it either way since most of the time when I was using it as a phone it was in my pocket and I didn't have to look at it. It was just silly that I couldn't push the voice dial button on my bluetooth ear piece when I needed to make a call. What got to my nerves about it was when I complained about the lack of basic functionality I was told by the fan boys that the iPhone's "workflow" was superior. No one wanted to talk about the elephant in the room.

          A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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            So you finally switched to Java and Flash? :-) You can sign up for Twango too, for some fast and useful results. Likely you'll have to write some filters (should be easy with WCF) too make sure you don't blast your bandwidth on that slipper :-) That is, assuming you have contract covering decent usage for those massive size and quality pics on a move. For MS tech friendly bits definitely HTC, but I heard there's been some trouble out there between the two.

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            User of Users Group wrote:

            So you finally switched to Java and Flash?

            Nope. Just because I've previously bought PCs with JVM and Flash installed doesn't mean I've moved over to the dark side. :-D

            User of Users Group wrote:

            That is, assuming you have contract covering decent usage for those massive size and quality pics on a move. For MS tech friendly bits definitely HTC, but I heard there's been some trouble out there between the two.

            The bit that phone manufacturers seem to forget, is that people occassionally just want to use it as a bloody phone. Oh well.

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            • C Chris Austin

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              There's just something about it that really gets on my nerves.

              I didn't mind it either way since most of the time when I was using it as a phone it was in my pocket and I didn't have to look at it. It was just silly that I couldn't push the voice dial button on my bluetooth ear piece when I needed to make a call. What got to my nerves about it was when I complained about the lack of basic functionality I was told by the fan boys that the iPhone's "workflow" was superior. No one wanted to talk about the elephant in the room.

              A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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              Chris Austin wrote:

              I was told by the fan boys that the iPhone's "workflow" was superior.

              Argghhhhhh! It's a frickin' phone - just let me phone the wife and tell her I'm going to be a few minutes late.

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Naw. My first[^] mobile was a brick.

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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                My first[^] mobile was a brick.

                8-character dot-matrix red LED display We've come a long from an 8 character LED display to playing Spiderman-3, haven't we? Marc

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  OK - I'm not normally a one for updating to the "latest kit", but I just bought one of these[^] little babies yesterday. Whoah - this is a seriously high powered phone; 8GB RAM, Music Player, Sat Nav, Video Player (comes with Spiderman 3 on it). Wait - how do I actually use it as a phone? It seems to have about 3 bazillion functions on it, but how do I turn the damn ring volume down? Oh wait - I have to change "modes". Hooboy - by the time I come to change it again I might actually have figured out how to use it.

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                  I had to give up my unbelievably simple and usable Nokia phone (it's just a phone) a couple of years ago to one of these web browser enabled things just so I could get Bluetooth for a headset. I called the cell company and had them disable all data services so I don't accidentally rack up browsing charges (I once worked in the cellular industry, so I know from the inside their evil scheme of nickel & diming customers to death - roaming charges, anyone?). It's not that I'm a Luddite or other brand of technophobe. To me, it's a matter of usability. I want a phone, and I want ease of use in changing the basic functionality (ring volume, phone book, etc.). If I want a PDA, I'll buy an iWhatever. I have computers, recording studio gear, networks, yada, yada, all throughout the various aspects of my life. Consequently, I don't need all that stuff wedged into what should be a simple voice communication device. Unfortunately, these days I don't seem to have a say in the matter. Oh, well. At least it still works as a phone, once you figure out how to access that particularly old school techology on your snazzy new device. :-D

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    OK - I'm not normally a one for updating to the "latest kit", but I just bought one of these[^] little babies yesterday. Whoah - this is a seriously high powered phone; 8GB RAM, Music Player, Sat Nav, Video Player (comes with Spiderman 3 on it). Wait - how do I actually use it as a phone? It seems to have about 3 bazillion functions on it, but how do I turn the damn ring volume down? Oh wait - I have to change "modes". Hooboy - by the time I come to change it again I might actually have figured out how to use it.

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                    Now that you have that you should install N2F Live... N2F Live Streaming from your mobile! You may have to adjust your application installation security settings. But, pretty cool!

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      My first[^] mobile was a brick.

                      8-character dot-matrix red LED display We've come a long from an 8 character LED display to playing Spiderman-3, haven't we? Marc

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                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                      We've come a long from an 8 character LED display to playing Spiderman-3, haven't we?

                      We certainly have. I just wish that phones were still primarily phones. The manufacturers seem to forget that.

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                        I had to give up my unbelievably simple and usable Nokia phone (it's just a phone) a couple of years ago to one of these web browser enabled things just so I could get Bluetooth for a headset. I called the cell company and had them disable all data services so I don't accidentally rack up browsing charges (I once worked in the cellular industry, so I know from the inside their evil scheme of nickel & diming customers to death - roaming charges, anyone?). It's not that I'm a Luddite or other brand of technophobe. To me, it's a matter of usability. I want a phone, and I want ease of use in changing the basic functionality (ring volume, phone book, etc.). If I want a PDA, I'll buy an iWhatever. I have computers, recording studio gear, networks, yada, yada, all throughout the various aspects of my life. Consequently, I don't need all that stuff wedged into what should be a simple voice communication device. Unfortunately, these days I don't seem to have a say in the matter. Oh, well. At least it still works as a phone, once you figure out how to access that particularly old school techology on your snazzy new device. :-D

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        Christopher Duncan wrote:

                        I had to give up my unbelievably simple and usable Nokia phone (it's just a phone) a couple of years ago to one of these web browser enabled things just so I could get Bluetooth for a headset. I called the cell company and had them disable all data services so I don't accidentally rack up browsing charges (I once worked in the cellular industry, so I know from the inside their evil scheme of nickel & diming customers to death - roaming charges, anyone?). It's not that I'm a Luddite or other brand of technophobe. To me, it's a matter of usability. I want a phone, and I want ease of use in changing the basic functionality (ring volume, phone book, etc.). If I want a PDA, I'll buy an iWhatever. I have computers, recording studio gear, networks, yada, yada, all throughout the various aspects of my life. Consequently, I don't need all that stuff wedged into what should be a simple voice communication device. Unfortunately, these days I don't seem to have a say in the matter. Oh, well. At least it still works as a phone, once you figure out how to access that particularly old school techology on your snazzy new device

                        Hallelujah. Somebody who gets it. Somebody who understands that it's primarily a phone.

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                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                          I had to give up my unbelievably simple and usable Nokia phone (it's just a phone) a couple of years ago to one of these web browser enabled things just so I could get Bluetooth for a headset. I called the cell company and had them disable all data services so I don't accidentally rack up browsing charges (I once worked in the cellular industry, so I know from the inside their evil scheme of nickel & diming customers to death - roaming charges, anyone?). It's not that I'm a Luddite or other brand of technophobe. To me, it's a matter of usability. I want a phone, and I want ease of use in changing the basic functionality (ring volume, phone book, etc.). If I want a PDA, I'll buy an iWhatever. I have computers, recording studio gear, networks, yada, yada, all throughout the various aspects of my life. Consequently, I don't need all that stuff wedged into what should be a simple voice communication device. Unfortunately, these days I don't seem to have a say in the matter. Oh, well. At least it still works as a phone, once you figure out how to access that particularly old school techology on your snazzy new device

                          Hallelujah. Somebody who gets it. Somebody who understands that it's primarily a phone.

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                          :laugh: I remember when first encountering PCs in the 80s thinking that a QWERTY keyboard was the most gawd awful human to machine interface I'd ever seen. Like many people, I used to (and still do) think, "Instead of all this clumsy typing, wouldn't it be great if we could just talk to these things?" I have absolutely no idea why people would want to use an even clumsier keyboard to type in text messages on a tiny little computer when they could just talk and have the other person talk back. But then, I gave up trying to understand humans years ago. :-D

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                            :laugh: I remember when first encountering PCs in the 80s thinking that a QWERTY keyboard was the most gawd awful human to machine interface I'd ever seen. Like many people, I used to (and still do) think, "Instead of all this clumsy typing, wouldn't it be great if we could just talk to these things?" I have absolutely no idea why people would want to use an even clumsier keyboard to type in text messages on a tiny little computer when they could just talk and have the other person talk back. But then, I gave up trying to understand humans years ago. :-D

                            Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                            Christopher Duncan wrote:

                            have absolutely no idea why people would want to use an even clumsier keyboard to type in text messages on a tiny little computer when they could just talk and have the other person talk back.

                            ""Computer... Computer... (McCoy hands Scotty the mouse) Aye. Hello computer." -- Scotty, "Just use the keyboard." -- G'vnr Nichols, "Keyboard. How quaint." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"

                            A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              have absolutely no idea why people would want to use an even clumsier keyboard to type in text messages on a tiny little computer when they could just talk and have the other person talk back.

                              ""Computer... Computer... (McCoy hands Scotty the mouse) Aye. Hello computer." -- Scotty, "Just use the keyboard." -- G'vnr Nichols, "Keyboard. How quaint." -- Scotty, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home"

                              A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                              :laugh: Exactly!

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                                Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                I had to give up my unbelievably simple and usable Nokia phone (it's just a phone) a couple of years ago to one of these web browser enabled things just so I could get Bluetooth for a headset. I called the cell company and had them disable all data services so I don't accidentally rack up browsing charges (I once worked in the cellular industry, so I know from the inside their evil scheme of nickel & diming customers to death - roaming charges, anyone?). It's not that I'm a Luddite or other brand of technophobe. To me, it's a matter of usability. I want a phone, and I want ease of use in changing the basic functionality (ring volume, phone book, etc.). If I want a PDA, I'll buy an iWhatever. I have computers, recording studio gear, networks, yada, yada, all throughout the various aspects of my life. Consequently, I don't need all that stuff wedged into what should be a simple voice communication device. Unfortunately, these days I don't seem to have a say in the matter. Oh, well. At least it still works as a phone, once you figure out how to access that particularly old school techology on your snazzy new device

                                Hallelujah. Somebody who gets it. Somebody who understands that it's primarily a phone.

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                                > Hallelujah. Somebody who understands that it's primarily a phone Primarily a Carl Zeiss, TV interface, mp3 player, gaming toy, video+media player, audio/video recording (hours), dual camera, wifi, radio, a VM, supports 8GB storage (backup your VPC), organiser, browser, maps tool and GPS. And then: a Phone :rolleyes: Otherwise, there are 20 quid models around you know, for GSM and SMS. Hallelujah, now I'm convinced you switched to the, multi-functional Adobe/Sun, dark side :-)

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                                  OK - I'm not normally a one for updating to the "latest kit", but I just bought one of these[^] little babies yesterday. Whoah - this is a seriously high powered phone; 8GB RAM, Music Player, Sat Nav, Video Player (comes with Spiderman 3 on it). Wait - how do I actually use it as a phone? It seems to have about 3 bazillion functions on it, but how do I turn the damn ring volume down? Oh wait - I have to change "modes". Hooboy - by the time I come to change it again I might actually have figured out how to use it.

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                                  I've got the non-8GB version of it and have been very pleased (apart from short battery life but that's hardly suprising). Is is true that your model doesn't have an expansion slot? Personally I prefer the one which does because you can always have more memory cards and they're just so small. BTW: Completely pointless but cool app[^] for the phone :-\ Now with my DoE experiences this[^] has got to be one of the best products on the market for the N95. Shame about the battery life though (GPS really knocks it back) :sigh:


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                                    > Hallelujah. Somebody who understands that it's primarily a phone Primarily a Carl Zeiss, TV interface, mp3 player, gaming toy, video+media player, audio/video recording (hours), dual camera, wifi, radio, a VM, supports 8GB storage (backup your VPC), organiser, browser, maps tool and GPS. And then: a Phone :rolleyes: Otherwise, there are 20 quid models around you know, for GSM and SMS. Hallelujah, now I'm convinced you switched to the, multi-functional Adobe/Sun, dark side :-)

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                                    User of Users Group wrote:

                                    Primarily a Carl Zeiss, TV interface, mp3 player, gaming toy, video+media player, audio/video recording (hours), dual camera, wifi, radio, a VM, supports 8GB storage (backup your VPC), organiser, browser, maps tool and GPS. And then: a Phone

                                    Don't get me wrong, I'll probably end up using some of the other functions (especially mapping - I do a lot of mapping based work and the GPS will be handy), but it's the phone I'm mainly after.

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                                      peterchen wrote:

                                      How much did it cost,

                                      Free on a new phone contract.

                                      peterchen wrote:

                                      can you plug it into a PC as a mass store device, or are drivers required?

                                      I've not actually tried that, but 8GB isn't actually much in mass storage terms.

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                                      I'm just curious if it works without driver, like a USB stick. (IIRC the driver is named "Mass Storage device driver", even for 256MB sticks ;) )

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                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        Your teenage children will be more than happy to explain to you how it works.

                                        I'll have to wait a few years then. Catherine's only 6.

                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        Did you have similar problems with your VCR

                                        Betamax baby. Groovy.

                                        Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                                        Anyhow, congrats on your interview article with Marc.

                                        Thanks - it was a fun article.

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                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        Betamax baby. Groovy.

                                        Laserdisc is THE thing! 12 inches of technical superiority! ;P

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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          We've come a long from an 8 character LED display to playing Spiderman-3, haven't we?

                                          We certainly have. I just wish that phones were still primarily phones. The manufacturers seem to forget that.

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                                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                          We certainly have. I just wish that phones were still primarily phones. The manufacturers seem to forget that.

                                          More seriously people who want to call you often see them as a leash and get mad when you refuse to comply. "My Desk Phone is from Verizon Wireless." Guess where I stand on the issue.

                                          You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always get punched out when I reach 4.... -- El Corazon

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