Goodbye VC++ 6.0 I'll miss you
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That's right, folks...I finally took the plunge and have moved on to VS .NET. I had kept VC++ 6.0 around for WTL work (out of sheer laziness). I shall now be doing that in VS .NET. Feels a little sad though. I'll miss all the little quirks of 6.0 and will now have to get used to all the new ones of 7.0. But I must say, working with WTL so far in 7.0 is not too bad. I can hardly find anything without clickig everywhere, but I'm fast beginning to get comfy again :-) :rose: here lies visual studio 6. he/she was a great friend for the past year and a half, who finally fell prey to Add/Remove Programs :rose: You shall be missed. And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
I've finally got the permission to install and use VS.NET because of an ATL Server project I'm working on currently. However, VC 6.0 is still here. Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 :mad: I vote pro drink :beer:
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You'll be back....... Richard Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Paul Watson wrote: My car is a guy for sure Funny ! I've always considered my vehicles as female characters (perhaps because they were not very reliable ? :rolleyes: ) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)
Karl wrote: perhaps because they were not very reliable Man, you guys must have had some awful experiences with women (I'm not just refering to this post, but rather to the general mood of this thread). Personally, I have never attached sex to an inanimate object. That isn't to say that I haven't cursed and hit my share of innocent devices.
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Senkwe Chanda wrote: he/she was That's a thought: What are your applications to you? Female or male? Windows, being so tempremental, must be a woman. Linux, being so difficult to install, also must be a woman. I wonder why we personify inanimate objects? (My car is a guy for sure) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: Linux, being so difficult to install, also must be a woman. Been having trouble "installing" women?
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I've finally got the permission to install and use VS.NET because of an ATL Server project I'm working on currently. However, VC 6.0 is still here. Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 :mad: I vote pro drink :beer:
Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? cheers, Chris Maunder
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? Exactly! Damned compilers these days think they have the right to tell me what's wrong with my code. Sheesh! Whippersnappers! ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? Ummm, yes and no. In some cases we needed to write "non-standard" C++ code in order to work with VC 6.0 STL. For instance, with VC 6.0 reverse_iterator has 5 template arguments, and with VC 7.0 it has only one template parameter. Was it an error in the code to write reverse_iterator with 5 template parameters? Bjarne Stroustrup would probably say "yes", but this was the only way it would work with VC 6.0 STL. I vote pro drink :beer:
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Chris Maunder wrote: Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? Exactly! Damned compilers these days think they have the right to tell me what's wrong with my code. Sheesh! Whippersnappers! ;P Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge
Heheh, reminds me of a block of *really* old code (not mine) i stumbled onto when building w/ VC7 the first time... A whole block of conditional statements, all comparing the address of a function instead of its return value... :rolleyes: --------
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But just wait - in a couple of weeks you'll never want to go back... cheers, Chris Maunder
Chris Maunder wrote: But just wait - in a couple of weeks you'll never want to go back... Oh, yeah.. why would I ever want to give up this wonderful environment that can't process resource includes properly, and shuts down when I try to add resources. I don't know how I ever had time to do things before; now I can brush my teeth while I wait for the Find dialog to appear! And I just love hunting for the Project Properties dialog.. I'm glad they didn't put it somehwere convenient. But most of all, I'm so glad for the new Help system.. I just love the inconsistency of its search engine!
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: Some VC 6.0 projects would not compile with 7.0 Why? Because of errors in the code that the VC6 compiler let through? cheers, Chris Maunder
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That's right, folks...I finally took the plunge and have moved on to VS .NET. I had kept VC++ 6.0 around for WTL work (out of sheer laziness). I shall now be doing that in VS .NET. Feels a little sad though. I'll miss all the little quirks of 6.0 and will now have to get used to all the new ones of 7.0. But I must say, working with WTL so far in 7.0 is not too bad. I can hardly find anything without clickig everywhere, but I'm fast beginning to get comfy again :-) :rose: here lies visual studio 6. he/she was a great friend for the past year and a half, who finally fell prey to Add/Remove Programs :rose: You shall be missed. And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
Hehehe. I still bitch at some of the stupid UI elements of VS.NET. When I first started using it, I figured, I am just not use to it. Well after 4 months, I can now say that THE RESOURCE EDITOR SUCKS!!!! :) LONG LIVE WTL!!!! Which I still use with VS.NET. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Chris Maunder wrote: But just wait - in a couple of weeks you'll never want to go back... Oh, yeah.. why would I ever want to give up this wonderful environment that can't process resource includes properly, and shuts down when I try to add resources. I don't know how I ever had time to do things before; now I can brush my teeth while I wait for the Find dialog to appear! And I just love hunting for the Project Properties dialog.. I'm glad they didn't put it somehwere convenient. But most of all, I'm so glad for the new Help system.. I just love the inconsistency of its search engine!
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Sheesh, no way man. There were only a few of those kinds of errors, but plenty of major changes between ATL 3 and ATL 7 that cause breakage. Brandon
Ah. It would be interesting to have a write-up or case study of the issues involved with moving from ATL3 to 7 cheers, Chris Maunder
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Karl wrote: perhaps because they were not very reliable Man, you guys must have had some awful experiences with women (I'm not just refering to this post, but rather to the general mood of this thread). Personally, I have never attached sex to an inanimate object. That isn't to say that I haven't cursed and hit my share of innocent devices.
Ryan Johnston wrote: Man, you guys must have had some awful experiences with women (I'm not just refering to this post, but rather to the general mood of this thread). You haven't? Never had your heart broken? Never been frustrated beyond all belief when a woman begs you to make love to her one moment, then breaks down crying the next and then screams at you to pack your bags and go, all before begging you to come to bed again? Yes, it is all worth it and I would not give up women for anything in the world, but they still are highly tempremental creatures. We still love them though. :-D Ryan Johnston wrote: Personally, I have never attached sex to an inanimate object. Never? Wow, that is quite amazing. So when you refer to your yacht in the big-pond it is just an it, not a she? You obviously have no French blood in you at all (apparently the French have gender for virtually everything. My sister told me when you refer to a table you have to use she/he before it to speak French properly, how odd.) It seems strange but my car is a good friend to me. It has taken me all over the country, never ever let me down, goes well, is fun and looks good. To think of it as just a block of metal seems a traitoreous thought to me. It is not just a tool, my Tazz looks after me and I look after my Tazz. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Paul Watson wrote: Linux, being so difficult to install, also must be a woman. Been having trouble "installing" women?
Ryan Johnston wrote: Been having trouble "installing" women? Back in the bad days yes, but lately I have not seen a blue screen of death or been told my harddrive is too small to install Woman v1.0 on. :rolleyes: * I just remember the first time I tried to install Linux. I think it was RedHat 5.2 or something and what a nightmare. All those daft packages and options, how anyone but a geek like me or you can install Linux is beyond me. I got it up after re-installing Windows and getting some help on the net... ironic huh, having to use Windows to figure out how to install Linux. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Paul Watson wrote: My car is a guy for sure The thought of you handling your cars gear shift suddenly makes me cringe Paul X| And when God, who created the entire universe with all of its glories, decides to deliver a message to humanity, He WILL NOT use, as His messenger, a person on cable TV with a bad hairstyle.
Senkwe Chanda wrote: he thought of you handling your cars gear shift suddenly makes me cringe Paul There is a really nice windy stretch of road on my way home which I can take very fast. The gear changing around those hairpins is fantastic, and you really have to pump the breaks to make some of the corners... Happy mental images Senkwe ;P regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Paul Watson wrote: My car is a guy for sure Funny ! I've always considered my vehicles as female characters (perhaps because they were not very reliable ? :rolleyes: ) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)
Karl wrote: I've always considered my vehicles as female characters Well I have only ever owned one car, so far (oh boy are there going to be more :-D .) My current car is a Toyota Tazz and it is definitley a guy. Ultra reliable, goes like a rocket (considering it's size) and looks well built. Maybe if I had an Alfa or Merc I would think of it as a she. I drove it 4000k's in 25 hours straight, did not miss a beat. Try that with a she... :rolleyes: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Ryan Johnston wrote: Man, you guys must have had some awful experiences with women (I'm not just refering to this post, but rather to the general mood of this thread). You haven't? Never had your heart broken? Never been frustrated beyond all belief when a woman begs you to make love to her one moment, then breaks down crying the next and then screams at you to pack your bags and go, all before begging you to come to bed again? Yes, it is all worth it and I would not give up women for anything in the world, but they still are highly tempremental creatures. We still love them though. :-D Ryan Johnston wrote: Personally, I have never attached sex to an inanimate object. Never? Wow, that is quite amazing. So when you refer to your yacht in the big-pond it is just an it, not a she? You obviously have no French blood in you at all (apparently the French have gender for virtually everything. My sister told me when you refer to a table you have to use she/he before it to speak French properly, how odd.) It seems strange but my car is a good friend to me. It has taken me all over the country, never ever let me down, goes well, is fun and looks good. To think of it as just a block of metal seems a traitoreous thought to me. It is not just a tool, my Tazz looks after me and I look after my Tazz. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: apparently the French have gender for virtually everything Right. In fact we don't have a neutral gender (equivalent to "it"). Every word is either masculine or feminine ("Table" is feminine) Paul Watson wrote: It seems strange but my car is a good friend to me I agree, sharing adventures make links (even with a machine - don't say to my car I called her a machine, she would be mad ;) ) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)
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Karl wrote: I've always considered my vehicles as female characters Well I have only ever owned one car, so far (oh boy are there going to be more :-D .) My current car is a Toyota Tazz and it is definitley a guy. Ultra reliable, goes like a rocket (considering it's size) and looks well built. Maybe if I had an Alfa or Merc I would think of it as a she. I drove it 4000k's in 25 hours straight, did not miss a beat. Try that with a she... :rolleyes: regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Paul Watson wrote: apparently the French have gender for virtually everything Right. In fact we don't have a neutral gender (equivalent to "it"). Every word is either masculine or feminine ("Table" is feminine) Paul Watson wrote: It seems strange but my car is a good friend to me I agree, sharing adventures make links (even with a machine - don't say to my car I called her a machine, she would be mad ;) ) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)
Karl wrote: ("Table" is feminine) Amazing stuff. How do you (as in French speaking people) decide on the gender of new words? E.g. when the PC was invented, who decided it was a female or male? I wonder if this gender basis is part of the reason for French being such a romantic language. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!