UML drawing tool
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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I've used Computer Associates - ERwin Data Modeler for many years. It is fairly buggy and UI is weak, but I've learned what not to do and can whip-out diagrams in no time. It's really good at reverse engineering an existing DB.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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If you work with Java, i really recommend JUDE Community, really nifty, it generates Java Classes, and does a lot of other diagrams like Sequence, Use Case, etc... :)
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For free it's hard to beat StarUML. http://www.staruml.com/[^] It's C++ reverse engineering I have to say is pretty darn good (which is something about it that interests me. Dunno know what you might be interested in). General UML functions are fine.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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Some previous Q and A's here on codeproject.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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Whatever you do, stay away from Borland Together. Someone in our IT department decided it was the standard tool we all had to use and it's an absolute pain - buggy and a pain to use.
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Hmm don't know about when you tried it but the reverse engineering doesn't like any classes that use generics which is a bit of a showstopper for me.
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Generics I assume you are talking about templates, not .NET That could be true, our code base does not use a lot of templates (especially not extended template stuff like partial specialisation ) due to the very wide-ranging compile environments it needs to work in. So would not have really tested Star's capability there.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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Netbeans (free) has a UML tool
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Generics I assume you are talking about templates, not .NET That could be true, our code base does not use a lot of templates (especially not extended template stuff like partial specialisation ) due to the very wide-ranging compile environments it needs to work in. So would not have really tested Star's capability there.
It was having a problem digesting this sort of thing...
public class madoDbObjectList<T> { private Boolean fLazyCollection = false; protected Dictionary<string, T> fItems; protected string fSql = ""; public Int32 Count { get { return fItems.Count; } } public System.Collections.IEnumerable Items() { foreach (string itemId in fItems.Keys) yield return fItems[itemId]; } public Boolean Lazy { get { return fLazyCollection; } } public string Sql { get { return fSql; } } internal madoDbObjectList(Boolean aLazyCollection) { fLazyCollection = aLazyCollection; fItems = new Dictionary<string,T>(); } }I've just grabbed the Enterprise Architect trial and that does'nt have a problem and seems very poweful but of course is a "cost option"drummer -> photographer -> track day addict
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I'm using Cadifra UML Editor, it gets the job done. Gave up on EA as is too cumbersome, buggy, bloated etc, gave up on RR for similar reasons. I'm not sure that Cadifra would suit large corporate environment, but its good for individuals or small loosely coupled teams (e.g. working on an open source project). I use OOo instead of Office, Cadifra works fine within it too. Was thinking of trying StarUML and or BOUML, but after reading Ed Corazon's response maybe I wont. If one has to fight with the tool one is using then a) one is liable to injure oneself and b) one is probably using the wrong tool - Cadira has it's limitations but I don't feel I'm fighting it.
For a UML Drawing tool with no modelling facilities - i.e. just the ability to create great looking diagrams, I'd recommend Visio with the stencils available at Software Stencils. Of course, no reverse engineering, no model validation or such like, but it's the only tool I know that actually supports all the UML 2.0 diagrams. Personally, I found modelling just doesn't work properly with any existing tool (maybe OK for Java or C#, but C++ is too much of a struggle). I now just use UML for quick sketches to communicate ideas, and this approach works perfectly for that.
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I hate that monster! The features are good but the usability is rubbish. Of course, fiding a good alternative is difficult, since most others don't offer either of the two (usability + features). However, after a month of searching, I found Visual Paradigm for UML, which is much better from a usability standpoint and still offers good features. I recommend it.
I am using EA as well, but I have to agree it's UI (in the forums referred to as 'unique interface') does take time to get used to. There are lots of UI inconsistencies that take a while to learn, and sometimes certain properties are hard to find or spread over various non-obvious places. The forum however is very good, so this is the first place you should look for an answer once you encounter a problem (usually within 5 minutes of installation ;) ) I like EA's ability to import existing code into class diagrams which is very helpful for analyzing legacy code. I also use EA to generate or synchronize C++ code although I did spot a couple of obvious errors regarding preprocessor statementss or using directives (I reported both some time ago and apparently the former cannot be easily fixed while the latter may or may not have been addressed in the current version - didn't update in a while) I have worked with TogetherJ, Rational Rose and Rhapsody (from LogicWorks) before, and of these Rhapsody was the best by far. But also the most expensive, unfortunately. So unless the management is actually asking you to evaluate a proper UML tool (and willing to fork out cash in the five digit range - per developer), EA would still be a reasable choice. I've spotted the VisualParadigm website as well, but never bothered to evaluate it (likely it didn't have a particualr feature we needed, don't recall what it was). So I cannot judge whether it's more useful and worth the money. Most likely it depends on what you have in mind, so consider evaluating it.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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EA. An update has recently been made available to (7.1) and I haven't had a problem with it. Very useful for reverse and forwarding engineering, also very useful for quickly generating content for documentation
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For a UML Drawing tool with no modelling facilities - i.e. just the ability to create great looking diagrams, I'd recommend Visio with the stencils available at Software Stencils. Of course, no reverse engineering, no model validation or such like, but it's the only tool I know that actually supports all the UML 2.0 diagrams. Personally, I found modelling just doesn't work properly with any existing tool (maybe OK for Java or C#, but C++ is too much of a struggle). I now just use UML for quick sketches to communicate ideas, and this approach works perfectly for that.
Rob - yeah, but you're talking serious money if you're a freelancer whose expected to supply their own tools. visio std $AU320 ($290USD), pro $AU870 (800USD) smartdraw (near clone) $AU240 (215USD) Those are RRP's, but even discounted, $200+ is a few good donners However I agree with your sentiments - I don't expect a design tool to build the software for me, any more than an architect expects his CAD tool to build the house - at best it'll provide a shopping list. rgds phil
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I have played around with several tools, and I have an aversion to buying software unless I absolutely cannot find something open source. I used StarUML, but wasn't overly please with its functionality on the round-trip for c#. I settled on the topcoder UML tool, works well with Java and C# [^]
I tried topcoder (about a month ago) - it crashed repeatedly, I don't think I ever got as far as saving anything - how long have you been using.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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I'm using Visual Paradigm. It's a little slow because it's based on java, but has a free community edition. It has a standalone modelling application (VPUML), as well as several integrated environments (SDE) for eclipse, netbeans, etc. It's very easy to use, and has a powerful auto-layout functionality. Community edition cannot do code reverse or round-trip. But the pro/ent editions is very expensive compared to EA.
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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Visio + UML Templates[^] is a best choice for me :cool: ...
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Which tool you are using to create UML diagrams ? Any recommendations ?
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late hit - try UMLet, it's a free eclipse plugin, but you can run it as an applet. the ui takes getting used to, but you can't complain cuz it's free. i have used rational rose a long time ago...then about 4 years ago was using realtime studio and liked it better. most of the uml tools are really expensive, so i am using visio with a free template i found on the web. i don't make very complicated drawings, and only model to get my projects started. kind regards,
David