VB.NET is gonna rule!!!
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Ranjith wrote: Yes! VB.NET is gonna rule... I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
Rama Krishna wrote: I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. That's not entirely true, especially with the organization of the .NET BCL's, development won't rely so heavily on the language anymore, the language choice will be based more on the programmers preference. Nick Parker
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
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Rama Krishna wrote: I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. That's not entirely true, especially with the organization of the .NET BCL's, development won't rely so heavily on the language anymore, the language choice will be based more on the programmers preference. Nick Parker
Nick Parker wrote: the language choice will be based more on the programmers preference. I know that. But I am seeing that most of the VB programmers are learning C# instead of VB.NET, because there are so many differences between VB.NET and VB6. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
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Nick Parker wrote: the language choice will be based more on the programmers preference. I know that. But I am seeing that most of the VB programmers are learning C# instead of VB.NET, because there are so many differences between VB.NET and VB6. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
Rama Krishna wrote: But I am seeing that most of the VB programmers are learning C# instead of VB.NET, because there are so many differences between VB.NET and VB6. I guess this is where we disagree. It is true that some are converting or learning both(like me), however I just don't agree with you when you say most. I think that is pigeonholing a development community that is too large(believe it or not) to be placed in a group like that. I would agree that there are quite a few VB developers learning C#, which is a fun, just not most. :) Nick Parker
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Ryan Johnston wrote: Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever! I wouldn't try Python then. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge
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Ryan Johnston wrote: Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever! I wouldn't try Python then. Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge
I haven't looked at that particular language before. Is that the one that uses tabing to denote code blocks? That seems a lot more readable than the way VB does it.
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Well, the problem as i see it, is that VB's syntax isn't really closer to natural language at all - it's closer to written English, which, although wonderfully flexible (i can use bad grammar & poor spelling all day long & still get my point across) is neither natural nor easy to comprehend at a glance. The best you can say for BASIC is that it looks somewhat familiar, and so is a bit friendlier to learn. But as you said, MS has classically thought it a good idea to write whole applications in BASIC... 'twas a Billy G fetish or something. And so here we sit. :( --------
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Rama Krishna wrote: But I am seeing that most of the VB programmers are learning C# instead of VB.NET, because there are so many differences between VB.NET and VB6. I guess this is where we disagree. It is true that some are converting or learning both(like me), however I just don't agree with you when you say most. I think that is pigeonholing a development community that is too large(believe it or not) to be placed in a group like that. I would agree that there are quite a few VB developers learning C#, which is a fun, just not most. :) Nick Parker
It was my guess seeing the mailing lists and talking to some VB programmers. Ok I have the following categories. 1. Number of VB6 programmers (too large) 2. Number of VB6 programmers actually trying to learn .NET stuff. 3. Number of programmers in category 2 learning only VB.NET 4. Number of programmers in category 2 learning C#. (Learning C# implies that learning VB.NET) 5. Number of VB6 programmers not learning anything. Somehow I believe 1. Category 4 > Category 3. 2. Category 5 > (Category 4 + Category 3) Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Ryan Johnston wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I don't think so. I like it after I used it. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
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Ranjith wrote: Yes! VB.NET is gonna rule... I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
I went from VB6 to VB.NET, but really, once I got the whole concept of the Framework down, decided to move to C#. It's really a lot sweeter than VB.NET. I would never voluntarily go back to VB.NET. X| David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
Procrastination is like masturbation; it's all good until you realize you just screwed yourself. -Writing on a bench at college -
Ranjith wrote: Yes! VB.NET is gonna rule... I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
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It was my guess seeing the mailing lists and talking to some VB programmers. Ok I have the following categories. 1. Number of VB6 programmers (too large) 2. Number of VB6 programmers actually trying to learn .NET stuff. 3. Number of programmers in category 2 learning only VB.NET 4. Number of programmers in category 2 learning C#. (Learning C# implies that learning VB.NET) 5. Number of VB6 programmers not learning anything. Somehow I believe 1. Category 4 > Category 3. 2. Category 5 > (Category 4 + Category 3) Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
Rama Krishna wrote: (Learning C# implies that learning VB.NET) Essentially vice versa as well. :) Rama Krishna wrote: Number of VB6 programmers (too large) Probably true, more likely that there are too many bad VB6 programmers out there. Rama Krishna wrote: 5. Number of VB6 programmers not learning anything. I think that if you are a developer, using any language, not learning anything new is a mistake, no matter how much you think you know already. Nick Parker
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I don't hate people who use VB or anything. Just the language its self. On second thought... Perhaps I do hate people who use VB, it is just so dirty. ;-P
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Oh, I thought it was only for sissies!!!! Just joking:):) I have not tried VB.NET (or any other version of VB), is it any good? I've always been under the impression that it was splendid for RAD, but now with C# that's easily handled.:cool:
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I don't hate people who use VB or anything. Just the language its self. On second thought... Perhaps I do hate people who use VB, it is just so dirty. ;-P
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Ranjith wrote: Yes! VB.NET is gonna rule... Ranjith wrote: Share your thoughts.. So you've said to me before. Do you *really* believe this tripe ? Why did M$ create C#, so that another language can be overshadowed by the worst language available on wintel platforms ? Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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By the way, I was joking about hating VB programmers. That said, I would have to say I currently like C++ the best. I like all kinds of languages though. My all time most hated "language" is SQL. It is just ugly.
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Ryan Johnston wrote: as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves. I get worse. I throw up - regurgitate - get violently ill - am depressed for days. It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. Richard (Who belives that C and C++ are RAD languages ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Ryan Johnston wrote: as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves. I get worse. I throw up - regurgitate - get violently ill - am depressed for days. It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. Richard (Who belives that C and C++ are RAD languages ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. :laugh: