VB.NET is gonna rule!!!
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By the way, I was joking about hating VB programmers. That said, I would have to say I currently like C++ the best. I like all kinds of languages though. My all time most hated "language" is SQL. It is just ugly.
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Ryan Johnston wrote: as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves. I get worse. I throw up - regurgitate - get violently ill - am depressed for days. It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. Richard (Who belives that C and C++ are RAD languages ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
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Ryan Johnston wrote: as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves. I get worse. I throw up - regurgitate - get violently ill - am depressed for days. It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. Richard (Who belives that C and C++ are RAD languages ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Richard Stringer wrote: It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. :laugh:
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But where's your evidence for that? I mean, take a look around here... What is the most active programming forum? That would be the C# forum. If you take this site and it's members as a representative sample of the developer community as a whole, then clearly C# wins. Besides that, I have seen so many more books that use C# and so many more magazine articles with C# code for the samples that I think C# will be the longtime "primary" language for .NET. It's just so much better and does more. You have more practical benefits(XML documentation, unmanaged code, brief sytax, etc.) in C# than in VB.NET. I would never go back.(Except for here at work where my boss does VB.NET. But even that is changing. My dad (My boss'es boss) has decided that he wants to look at C#.) David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
Procrastination is like masturbation; it's all good until you realize you just screwed yourself. -Writing on a bench at college -
Ryan Johnston wrote: as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves. I get worse. I throw up - regurgitate - get violently ill - am depressed for days. It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. Richard (Who belives that C and C++ are RAD languages ) Monarchies, aristocracies, and religions....there was never a country where the majority of the people were in their secret hearts loyal to any of these institutions. Mark Twain - The Mysterious Stranger
Common you all VB haters... Visual Basic is not that bad! VB is simple and RAD tool. It's sytax is not that cumbersome, like VC++!! I used to work in this particular company and those crappy VC++ middle tier gave me a hard time... it crashes everytime I exit from my VB project. :mad: VB,ASP, C#, ASP.NET, VB.NET, Oracle, SQL Server. -------------------------------------------------- Share your thoughts..
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Richard Stringer wrote: It is a language for childern with learning disabilities at best and at worst a plot to employee the mentally retarded. :laugh:
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Ranjith wrote: Yes! VB.NET is gonna rule... I see that most VB6 programmers are learning C# rather than VB.NET. Others are going back to the field from which they came from - Journalism, Arts etc. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
:laugh: -- Dana Holt Xenos Software
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!Amen! Jon
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
Code Blocks Denoted by Curly Braces Forever!It's not just you. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Yes, C# inherits one good idea ( for each ) and a lot of crappy, verbose syntax designed to pander to morons from VB. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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But where's your evidence for that? I mean, take a look around here... What is the most active programming forum? That would be the C# forum. If you take this site and it's members as a representative sample of the developer community as a whole, then clearly C# wins. Besides that, I have seen so many more books that use C# and so many more magazine articles with C# code for the samples that I think C# will be the longtime "primary" language for .NET. It's just so much better and does more. You have more practical benefits(XML documentation, unmanaged code, brief sytax, etc.) in C# than in VB.NET. I would never go back.(Except for here at work where my boss does VB.NET. But even that is changing. My dad (My boss'es boss) has decided that he wants to look at C#.) David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
Procrastination is like masturbation; it's all good until you realize you just screwed yourself. -Writing on a bench at collegeDavid Stone wrote: What is the most active programming forum? That would be the C# forum. Actually, the C++ forum, but C# beats VB hands down. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Common you all VB haters... Visual Basic is not that bad! VB is simple and RAD tool. It's sytax is not that cumbersome, like VC++!! I used to work in this particular company and those crappy VC++ middle tier gave me a hard time... it crashes everytime I exit from my VB project. :mad: VB,ASP, C#, ASP.NET, VB.NET, Oracle, SQL Server. -------------------------------------------------- Share your thoughts..
I can't speak for anyone else (someday... ), but for me personally the dislike of VB is that i *do* use it on occasion, and on each occasion must once again familiarize myself with a language *and* editor *and* IDE. I've spent at this point nearly seven years becoming used to C-style languages, editors (well, these differ a lot), and IDEs (these *really* differ a lot). So each time this happens, i have to spend a day or two cursing as i once again forget a 'THEN' or include a semicolon. Now, these are just minor annoyances, but they do keep a small level of animosity in my heart towards VB. Now, add to that the language, and the environment. VB as a language simply does not have that much to offer. About all i can say for it off the top of my head is that it compiles quickly. Even the fact that it is compiled doesn't mean much, as there is no preprocessor or even a simple way to build in static data. And compared to the flexibility of most newer interpreted languages, VB and VBScript are both looking very archaic. RAD is nice, but VB6 at this point is sadly outdated. If i'm prototyping a new dialog for instance, and i need it to be sizeable, i don't want to write code to reposition controls - i might as well be using C++. And once i go to VB.NET and Windows Forms, i might just as well be using C#. And so i find that the few small advantages gained from using the language are countered by many painful disadvantages. :( --------
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David Stone wrote: What is the most active programming forum? That would be the C# forum. Actually, the C++ forum, but C# beats VB hands down. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Yeah yeah. Whatever.:-D I meant .NET forum...but said programming instead. :rolleyes: David Stone dstone@newcenturytitle.com
Procrastination is like masturbation; it's all good until you realize you just screwed yourself. -Writing on a bench at college -
Yes, C# inherits one good idea ( for each ) and a lot of crappy, verbose syntax designed to pander to morons from VB. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
Christian Graus wrote: and a lot of crappy, verbose syntax designed to pander to morons from VB. Hey! :-D James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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Christian Graus wrote: and a lot of crappy, verbose syntax designed to pander to morons from VB. Hey! :-D James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
Not to say EVERYONE in VB is a moron, only those who stay... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Not to say EVERYONE in VB is a moron, only those who stay... Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
lol, thats better anyway :) James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus
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Yes, C# inherits one good idea ( for each ) and a lot of crappy, verbose syntax designed to pander to morons from VB. Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002
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Ranjith wrote: VB.NET is gonna rule Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I hate it. I understand it is supposed to be closer to natural language, which asists in learning to program. Thanks to Microsoft though, it is commonly used for developing apps. I am hopeful that C# will eventualy fill the niche that VB currently holds, because as a C/C++ programmer, every time I have to look at VB/VBScript code I get the dry heaves.
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Ryan Johnston wrote: Is it just me, or does anyone else think that VB's syntax is just crappy? I don't think so. I like it after I used it. Step back, rub your eyes, take a deep breath, stretch a bit, and reflect on the relative importance of CP, CG, the age / travel time sustained by supposedly 'fresh' cheese curds, and Life in General. - Shog9
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Ranjith wrote: Think... you have some enimity with VBians. No, with VB. Ranjith wrote: Common!! accept it... I accept that some people make poor choices, and others are too dumb for C++. Not a problem in the world. The question is, why are you so insecure that you need for *me* to love VB in order to feel validated ? Christian come on all you MS suckups, defend your sugar-daddy now. - Chris Losinger - 11/07/2002