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  • S soap brain

    Anonymous attacking the Church of Scientology.

    Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.

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    phannon86
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    Ah, cheers, that was bugging me :)

    He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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      tell your wife to get four sheets of black paper, lie them next to each other on the short edge and fix them with sticky tape. then fax the paper row to that branch, and when the first in the row comes out of the machine, quickly fix it to the end of the row. let the machine keep running for a good while, sending black pages over and over. enjoy.

      "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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      Zoltan Balazs
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      Evil!

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        tell your wife to get four sheets of black paper, lie them next to each other on the short edge and fix them with sticky tape. then fax the paper row to that branch, and when the first in the row comes out of the machine, quickly fix it to the end of the row. let the machine keep running for a good while, sending black pages over and over. enjoy.

        "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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        leppie
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        And who will be paying the phone bill? ;P

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        IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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          Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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          Mike Dimmick
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          It is helpful when you need a document quickly and the morons (normally government) won't accept a printed email, or the sender can't generate a 'letterhead' email. In my case recently I needed a car insurance cover note so that the dealer could tell the government that I had insurance when driving my new (well, lightly used) car away, and so I could get a temporary parking permit. The irony is of course that we now use a fax to email service, redirecting our old fax number, so I printed it out on our work laser printer. Looks the same as a plain paper fax!

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            And who will be paying the phone bill? ;P

            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 3 out now

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            Smithers Jones
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            Ah, I knew there's a rub in it. :rolleyes: Kids, don't do that at home. "Now, sir, me sending 1600 black pages via fax, do you think that's possible? Technical error maybe..."

            "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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            • M Mike Dimmick

              It is helpful when you need a document quickly and the morons (normally government) won't accept a printed email, or the sender can't generate a 'letterhead' email. In my case recently I needed a car insurance cover note so that the dealer could tell the government that I had insurance when driving my new (well, lightly used) car away, and so I could get a temporary parking permit. The irony is of course that we now use a fax to email service, redirecting our old fax number, so I printed it out on our work laser printer. Looks the same as a plain paper fax!

              DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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              Paul Watson
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              Mike Dimmick wrote:

              and the morons (normally government) won't accept a printed email

              Well, that is just the problem. Agencies that will accept a fax but not an email with a scanned attachment. I don't get that. Neither is an original so what is the difference to them?

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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              • P Paul Horstink

                How long has it been since fax-machines have been around? Anyway, a story from my friend. His wife works in HR at the headquarters of an international bank. She recently received a call from a long-term employee from a branch in a small village. She told it to fill in the required form and fax it to the given number. After about half an hour, she got another call: "It's not working! I try to send it, but every time I send the page it's rejected and sent back to me..." Sure enough, walking over to her fax, she found 20-plus copies of the form he had sent...

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                Tim Carmichael
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                As much as we appreciate current technology, everyone either doesn't necessarily have access to it, or, it is unreliable where they live. We regularly fax purchase orders to vendors because the fax machine does not rely on: network, internet, e-mail server, server maintenance, etc. If the technology works and serves the purpose, use it! Tim

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                  Mike Dimmick wrote:

                  and the morons (normally government) won't accept a printed email

                  Well, that is just the problem. Agencies that will accept a fax but not an email with a scanned attachment. I don't get that. Neither is an original so what is the difference to them?

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                  ghle
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                  Paul Watson wrote:

                  so what is the difference to them?

                  Last time I checked, faxes were not susceptible to viruses. I believe that is the reason.

                  Gary

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                    Paul Watson wrote:

                    so what is the difference to them?

                    Last time I checked, faxes were not susceptible to viruses. I believe that is the reason.

                    Gary

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                      As much as we appreciate current technology, everyone either doesn't necessarily have access to it, or, it is unreliable where they live. We regularly fax purchase orders to vendors because the fax machine does not rely on: network, internet, e-mail server, server maintenance, etc. If the technology works and serves the purpose, use it! Tim

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                      Paul Watson
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                      One-call-at-a-time, piles of faxes for different people, paper running out, low ink and misaligned feeding trays to name a few of the bits that make faxes a PITA. I can't count the number of times people have said "Oh, could you resend that fax please, our machine wasn't plugged in/ran out of paper/ran out of ink/wasn't working."

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                        Mike Dimmick
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                        Our old one doesn't run out of toner. It uses a roll of thermal paper, so the faxes roll up, fade over time and the paper goes dark when exposed to sunlight. (I actually wasn't aware that we had the fax-to-email gateway set up for this line - yes, it's on its own phone line - so was just assuming that the insurance company were slow sending it, until my colleague forwarded it on!)

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                          Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                          Paul Watson wrote:

                          ...that make them a pain in the arse.

                          I thought I explained to you last time not to stick the bloody thing up there.

                          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            Paul Watson wrote:

                            ...that make them a pain in the arse.

                            I thought I explained to you last time not to stick the bloody thing up there.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            Paul Watson
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                            Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse. How can I deny you that pleasure?

                            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                            Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                            At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                              Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse. How can I deny you that pleasure?

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                              At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse.

                              More than you know.

                              Paul Watson wrote:

                              How can I deny you that pleasure?

                              Well, seeing as it's me, there isn't.

                              Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                                Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.

                                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                Paul Watson wrote:

                                Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.

                                until recently I'd the same thought. I tossed my personal fax, switched to electronic fax when ever I needed one. Now I started my own small business and was amazed by the number of many small business heavily depend on FAX. I prefer to work with emails, but there are a number of vendors, I can not simply get VALID email from them. case in point I contacted a vendor and asked them to email me their price list. Guess what they are using, Lotus 1-2-3 (from the mid 1990's) I could not get a useful converter or viewer and don't want to shell huge money to open the file. Finally, asked them to fax it to me. ;P

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                                  Paul Watson wrote:

                                  Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.

                                  until recently I'd the same thought. I tossed my personal fax, switched to electronic fax when ever I needed one. Now I started my own small business and was amazed by the number of many small business heavily depend on FAX. I prefer to work with emails, but there are a number of vendors, I can not simply get VALID email from them. case in point I contacted a vendor and asked them to email me their price list. Guess what they are using, Lotus 1-2-3 (from the mid 1990's) I could not get a useful converter or viewer and don't want to shell huge money to open the file. Finally, asked them to fax it to me. ;P

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Yusuf wrote:

                                  Finally, asked them to fax it to me

                                  You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX. The rest of us can reject faxes and force others to get with the times.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                  Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                  At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    Yusuf wrote:

                                    Finally, asked them to fax it to me

                                    You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX. The rest of us can reject faxes and force others to get with the times.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    Paul Watson wrote:

                                    You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX.

                                    although theoretically possible, this is like saying "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." It sounds great but it ignores the impossibility of lifting a lever long enough and applying sufficient force to put the lever in place. The world is full of idiots, and the universe gets more efficient at producing them. THAT is a losing battle!

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                      Paul Watson wrote:

                                      You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX.

                                      although theoretically possible, this is like saying "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." It sounds great but it ignores the impossibility of lifting a lever long enough and applying sufficient force to put the lever in place. The world is full of idiots, and the universe gets more efficient at producing them. THAT is a losing battle!

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      You don't have to move the world. You only have to move one person at a time.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                        You don't have to move the world. You only have to move one person at a time.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                        At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                                        Paul Watson wrote:

                                        You only have to move one person at a time.

                                        while they are simultaneously being moved back into place through the same issues that moves others to fax still. I would say the many eFax type services are the best way of making that move. yes it is a bastardization of ancient and new technologies, but it gives the warm and fuzzy feeling, and when received via email, it allows the tantalizing peeking at the communication medium of email. I remember when we moved the drone pilots from wireframe 2d to 3d, there was no budging. There was no comfort zone in 3D, no familiarity. How they got them out of the pilot seat and into a console was beyond me, but there we were, replacing aging 2D vector graphics with modern 3D hardware and still drawing simplistic 2D wireframes in an overhead view. So we left it, and I tackled the issue slowly tackled the issue. On idle time I got one pilot at a time to peek at 3D, winning them over. I say keep with the eFax, its better than the mech-nightmare of the real thing. And an email fax means they are getting a look at an easier world, without sheet feeders, just type and be done. Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest. ;)

                                        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                          Paul Watson wrote:

                                          You only have to move one person at a time.

                                          while they are simultaneously being moved back into place through the same issues that moves others to fax still. I would say the many eFax type services are the best way of making that move. yes it is a bastardization of ancient and new technologies, but it gives the warm and fuzzy feeling, and when received via email, it allows the tantalizing peeking at the communication medium of email. I remember when we moved the drone pilots from wireframe 2d to 3d, there was no budging. There was no comfort zone in 3D, no familiarity. How they got them out of the pilot seat and into a console was beyond me, but there we were, replacing aging 2D vector graphics with modern 3D hardware and still drawing simplistic 2D wireframes in an overhead view. So we left it, and I tackled the issue slowly tackled the issue. On idle time I got one pilot at a time to peek at 3D, winning them over. I say keep with the eFax, its better than the mech-nightmare of the real thing. And an email fax means they are getting a look at an easier world, without sheet feeders, just type and be done. Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest. ;)

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                          El Corazon wrote:

                                          Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest.

                                          I do. I forward my daily spam to their fax machines through eFax. That'll get them using email!

                                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                          Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                                          At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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