Technolgy 2008
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Mike Dimmick wrote:
and the morons (normally government) won't accept a printed email
Well, that is just the problem. Agencies that will accept a fax but not an email with a scanned attachment. I don't get that. Neither is an original so what is the difference to them?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote:
so what is the difference to them?
Last time I checked, faxes were not susceptible to viruses. I believe that is the reason.
Gary
Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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As much as we appreciate current technology, everyone either doesn't necessarily have access to it, or, it is unreliable where they live. We regularly fax purchase orders to vendors because the fax machine does not rely on: network, internet, e-mail server, server maintenance, etc. If the technology works and serves the purpose, use it! Tim
One-call-at-a-time, piles of faxes for different people, paper running out, low ink and misaligned feeding trays to name a few of the bits that make faxes a PITA. I can't count the number of times people have said "Oh, could you resend that fax please, our machine wasn't plugged in/ran out of paper/ran out of ink/wasn't working."
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Our old one doesn't run out of toner. It uses a roll of thermal paper, so the faxes roll up, fade over time and the paper goes dark when exposed to sunlight. (I actually wasn't aware that we had the fax-to-email gateway set up for this line - yes, it's on its own phone line - so was just assuming that the insurance company were slow sending it, until my colleague forwarded it on!)
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Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
...that make them a pain in the arse.
I thought I explained to you last time not to stick the bloody thing up there.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Paul Watson wrote:
...that make them a pain in the arse.
I thought I explained to you last time not to stick the bloody thing up there.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse. How can I deny you that pleasure?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse. How can I deny you that pleasure?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Yeah but I know it cracks you up when a fax comes out my arse.
More than you know.
Paul Watson wrote:
How can I deny you that pleasure?
Well, seeing as it's me, there isn't.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.
until recently I'd the same thought. I tossed my personal fax, switched to electronic fax when ever I needed one. Now I started my own small business and was amazed by the number of many small business heavily depend on FAX. I prefer to work with emails, but there are a number of vendors, I can not simply get VALID email from them. case in point I contacted a vendor and asked them to email me their price list. Guess what they are using, Lotus 1-2-3 (from the mid 1990's) I could not get a useful converter or viewer and don't want to shell huge money to open the file. Finally, asked them to fax it to me. ;P
/* I can C */ // or !C Yusuf
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Paul Watson wrote:
Another reason to kill off the fax machine. Detest the little bastards.
until recently I'd the same thought. I tossed my personal fax, switched to electronic fax when ever I needed one. Now I started my own small business and was amazed by the number of many small business heavily depend on FAX. I prefer to work with emails, but there are a number of vendors, I can not simply get VALID email from them. case in point I contacted a vendor and asked them to email me their price list. Guess what they are using, Lotus 1-2-3 (from the mid 1990's) I could not get a useful converter or viewer and don't want to shell huge money to open the file. Finally, asked them to fax it to me. ;P
/* I can C */ // or !C Yusuf
Yusuf wrote:
Finally, asked them to fax it to me
You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX. The rest of us can reject faxes and force others to get with the times.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Yusuf wrote:
Finally, asked them to fax it to me
You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX. The rest of us can reject faxes and force others to get with the times.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX.
although theoretically possible, this is like saying "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." It sounds great but it ignores the impossibility of lifting a lever long enough and applying sufficient force to put the lever in place. The world is full of idiots, and the universe gets more efficient at producing them. THAT is a losing battle!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Paul Watson wrote:
You are continuing the scourge by relenting to their ignorant ways. Show them the benefits of the future and dispell the security myths of FAX.
although theoretically possible, this is like saying "Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world." It sounds great but it ignores the impossibility of lifting a lever long enough and applying sufficient force to put the lever in place. The world is full of idiots, and the universe gets more efficient at producing them. THAT is a losing battle!
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
You don't have to move the world. You only have to move one person at a time.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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You don't have to move the world. You only have to move one person at a time.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
You only have to move one person at a time.
while they are simultaneously being moved back into place through the same issues that moves others to fax still. I would say the many eFax type services are the best way of making that move. yes it is a bastardization of ancient and new technologies, but it gives the warm and fuzzy feeling, and when received via email, it allows the tantalizing peeking at the communication medium of email. I remember when we moved the drone pilots from wireframe 2d to 3d, there was no budging. There was no comfort zone in 3D, no familiarity. How they got them out of the pilot seat and into a console was beyond me, but there we were, replacing aging 2D vector graphics with modern 3D hardware and still drawing simplistic 2D wireframes in an overhead view. So we left it, and I tackled the issue slowly tackled the issue. On idle time I got one pilot at a time to peek at 3D, winning them over. I say keep with the eFax, its better than the mech-nightmare of the real thing. And an email fax means they are getting a look at an easier world, without sheet feeders, just type and be done. Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest. ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Paul Watson wrote:
You only have to move one person at a time.
while they are simultaneously being moved back into place through the same issues that moves others to fax still. I would say the many eFax type services are the best way of making that move. yes it is a bastardization of ancient and new technologies, but it gives the warm and fuzzy feeling, and when received via email, it allows the tantalizing peeking at the communication medium of email. I remember when we moved the drone pilots from wireframe 2d to 3d, there was no budging. There was no comfort zone in 3D, no familiarity. How they got them out of the pilot seat and into a console was beyond me, but there we were, replacing aging 2D vector graphics with modern 3D hardware and still drawing simplistic 2D wireframes in an overhead view. So we left it, and I tackled the issue slowly tackled the issue. On idle time I got one pilot at a time to peek at 3D, winning them over. I say keep with the eFax, its better than the mech-nightmare of the real thing. And an email fax means they are getting a look at an easier world, without sheet feeders, just type and be done. Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest. ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
El Corazon wrote:
Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest.
I do. I forward my daily spam to their fax machines through eFax. That'll get them using email!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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El Corazon wrote:
Meet them half-way, Paul, then push on lever to move them the rest.
I do. I forward my daily spam to their fax machines through eFax. That'll get them using email!
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
I do. I forward my daily spam to their fax machines through eFax. That'll get them using email!
no, but you are now probably to thank for 90% of the world viagra trade to these fax owners....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Paul Watson wrote:
I do. I forward my daily spam to their fax machines through eFax. That'll get them using email!
no, but you are now probably to thank for 90% of the world viagra trade to these fax owners....
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
El Corazon wrote:
no, but you are now probably to thank for 90% of the world viagra trade to these fax owners....
I can't help it if fax owners are the impotent type ;)
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Yet they break down, run out of toner, run out of paper, interfere with voice lines and many other little glitches that make them a pain in the arse.
Yeah, and I have one of those new-fangled printers that don't use paper or ink, a scanner that always works, and an OS that always has updated drivers for the both of them. :laugh:
Gary