XBox: What do you guys think will happen?

Datacrime

Seriously, it's about dang time that a US company got into the hardware biz. hardware biz? Just because the case doesn't look like an ordinary PC? The inside is still made in 'eastern asia'. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

Michael Dunn

Just because the case doesn't look like an ordinary PC? The inside is still made in 'eastern asia' A US company is designing it. A US company is marketing it. The US will get it first. Doesn't matter where the parts come from. :) --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ I'm finger-lickin' good!

l a u r e n

i have a very good friend in there working on it (the xbox) and he says, and i quote: "The xbox is cool - Sony not only blinked, they shot themselves in the head - Xbox is going to rule :-)" :) --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots"

Datacrime

Sorry but can't see what is the difference from Dell, Gateway and other companies that assemple some parts (designed in US or not, made in asia for sure) and put their stamp on it. My point is that it's something new for MS , it's something new for a US Company in the Game console market, but for sure it's not the first US move in the hardware biz. Also the design it's not something new. If i am correct it will be more like a PC. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When you have so much to say it's called gratitude... \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345

MickAB

Weird, I just logged on to the code project with the intention of starting an Xbox thread, and what do I find?:confused: Anyway, enough about strange coincidences. My $0.02 I think that the development of the Xbox could be the start of something even bigger. Like the evolving of the legacy PC architecture. Intel also want to move away from the existing PC architecture, and it would simplify OS driver development if support was dropped for legacy PCI AGP et al. (Not to mention the IRQ problem.) No more incompatible drivers? Microsoft are now looking at driving the hardware market, I see this as a logical extension of their PCxx compatibility initiatives. Even if the Xbox isn't the end-result, I think its design *will* influence the future hardware direction of the PC (Or whatever is equivalent to a PC in the future).;)

Lost User

Personally I think that I will wait for the vapourware to materialise and then see how it performs (sales and games wise), before I start slagging off existing platforms. Even with their real/perceived weaknesses they have the big advantage of actually existing and working. Over the past few days in the lounge I have been reading a heap of 'WooHoo' Microsoft dribble that seems little more than arse kissing with no purpose, though it is a level or two lower than the Linux trash of a few weeks ago. Before I get branded as anything by anyone, a few of my thoughts that fluctuate radically depending on my mood, number of beers consumed (have done 24 x Coopers Sparkling Ale 5.8% in 3 hours 10 minutes at my 30th) and if the Microsoft OS/package I am currently using is crashing. I develop code for Windows NT, the company I work for deploys it's products on NT and Unix variants. On good days I don't even think about Bill and on bad days I may wish him dead for inflicting me with this Microsoft trash that is the bane of my existence. In the end though who cares, as many of you have said you develop with and use Microsoft software as it the dominant force in the market place and that is what your customers request. But I must say a few seem almost as religious in defence/praise of Microsoft as the Linux wheenie virus that infected the Lounge previously. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018

David Cunningham

Hey Michael, Hmmmm, I hope you weren't branding me personally as a Microsoft ass kisser. Although I like just about everyone I've met on the MS team and think many of their products are quite good, I'm also pretty critical when they bring something out that sucks. My question about the Xbox wasn't a plug, I'm genuinely wondering if anyone sees it as more than games machine. Maybe we have some folks visiting CP that develop for it. David

Lost User

David nothing personal at all, just my pent up frustration at some of the dribble that has been espoused over the last couple of days regarding the DOJ case (isn't it dead yet) and some moronic statements regarding the Xbox here in reply to your original question. Your question elicited enough of these responses to tip me over the edge and I responded as a new thread to you instead of multiple times to the other threads. I haven't met anyone from Microsoft so I have no grounds to be directing aggression to anyone in particular and the reference to Bill is just that he is Microsoft and when in a foul mood and nothing is going right it feels better to yell expletives about a person and not a company or thing (at least I think so). To sum it up maybe Chris needs to build a "Mick's Tantrum Room" for when I go over the edge. As for the Xbox haven't even thought about it yet, the PS2 costs AU$799 RRP and with a wife and two kids that ain't in the budget. If the Xbox is the right price and does what is claimed I probably will end up buying it but I want to see it first. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018

David Cunningham

Michael, Hey no need to backtrack, I agree with you that there's a awfully high percentage of Microsoft adoration on CP that maybe... they should earn first :) I read a report somewhere that MS is likely to market the Xbox at $279US, at about a $125 or so loss per unit in order to build the market. Should be interesting to see how this all pans out. David

l a u r e n

don't worry ... i read your next post so i dont take this as a flame or anything :) i just wanted to say that my comments about the xbox and ms in general are from 2 perspectives: 1). pragmatism ... no systems are perfect (even linux) and there will never be a 'better' one than the other so u take ur choice depending on where your motivations are (academic research vs. commercial development, for example) 2). one of my closest friends (and one of the best low level and 3d graphics coders on this planet IMHO) is working there and i know him well enough to know what he says is how it is hehe ... have u got one of those spill-proof keyboards? :suss: --- "every year we invent better idiot proof systems and every year they invent better idiots"