Murdering English
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Tim Carmichael wrote:
My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'...
A Massachusetts native, I assume? :) /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
A Massachusetts native
I am, and my mother says "idear", I don't know how she managed to raise six kids without passing that on.
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I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.
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Tom Delany wrote:
But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes
:-O I used to be guilty of that too. Judging by the 100,000+ results on google for "intensive purposes", looks like it's a common mistake.
Tom Delany wrote:
Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point"
One of the guys here at work has used that twice. I haven't said anything. :)
Judah Himango wrote:
intensive purposes
I used it once as a joke in a presentation.... how to get more out of your CPU.... for intensive purposes... ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Tom Delany wrote:
Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible...
you must not have interesting code. My code threatens other code all the time. But the appropriate libraries each pay their own share of the ransom and all is well. The 3D graphics card and the driver that goes with it, are the leaders of a mob-like control over my computer -- extracting payments from all other programs. Everytime I take him out, another more powerful one is put in and the same thing happens. You must have boring code from the sound of it. My life is many things, but never boring. Sometimes I even want to trade.... :sigh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
:sigh: Extremely boring... :sigh:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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:sigh: Extremely boring... :sigh:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
inject an ex husband into the code.... I hear they liven up anything.... :rolleyes: ;)
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Yes, those are bad. Along with "irregardless", "acrosst", and "could of" (and its variants). More subtle is "different than" instead of "different from". Also the use of "taste" when "flavor" (flavour?) is correct. And my own personal crusade; "Since" should only be used with chronology, use "because" for cause-and-effect.
Tom Delany wrote:
"threaten"
Unsafe code?
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Murdering, eh? I guess it's the times. Back when I was a tike, it was "butchering English". Y'all remember them thar days, righty? Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Y'all remember them thar days, righty?
yeah, I remember them days.... why we used to walk ten miles in the snow to school every morning while chopping down trees for firewood, and then collect them trees and carry them back on the way home.... yup, life was hard back then, the youth of today got it easy! :-D
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
modified on Monday, April 21, 2008 7:29 PM
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Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.
Leslie Sanford wrote:
Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English.
English is harder than most programming languages...
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'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Leslie Sanford wrote:
Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English.
English is harder than most programming languages...
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Shog9 wrote:
English is harder than most programming languages...
True. And it's especially true if English is not someone's native language. But that really wasn't my point exactly. In that sentence, I was misusing an English idiom on purpose.
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Shog9 wrote:
English is harder than most programming languages...
True. And it's especially true if English is not someone's native language. But that really wasn't my point exactly. In that sentence, I was misusing an English idiom on purpose.
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Murdering, eh? I guess it's the times. Back when I was a tike, it was "butchering English". Y'all remember them thar days, righty? Marc
As in, "It's already been killed. Now they are in the process of butchering it." :)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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Yes, those are bad. Along with "irregardless", "acrosst", and "could of" (and its variants). More subtle is "different than" instead of "different from". Also the use of "taste" when "flavor" (flavour?) is correct. And my own personal crusade; "Since" should only be used with chronology, use "because" for cause-and-effect.
Tom Delany wrote:
"threaten"
Unsafe code?
PIEBALDconsult wrote:
Unsafe code?
Hmm... I guess he could have been referring to that... :)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Several years ago, my wife asked our young daughter to spell 'mirror'. She said 'M-E-E-R', because that's how it sounds with a California accent. :P Also, a colleague at work insists on saying 'hoover' instead of 'hover'. It's very distracting to hear something like, "If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink...". :doh:
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Several years ago, my wife asked our young daughter to spell 'mirror'. She said 'M-E-E-R', because that's how it sounds with a California accent. :P Also, a colleague at work insists on saying 'hoover' instead of 'hover'. It's very distracting to hear something like, "If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink...". :doh:
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Miszou wrote:
"If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink..."
Presumably that would involve jerking the cursor rapidly back-and-forth over the link, cursing as the link obstinately fails to move... ;)
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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"Y'all" is a proper word. Here's a texas-oriented example... Half a dozen English teachers are out for a day's hunt. One of them stops and says, "I'm gonna put on a blindfold and spin around shooting my shotgun. I suggest y'all duck." I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".
:rolleyes: They'd probably also run instead of argue if it was "For all intensive purposes, I suggest y'all duck" ...
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".
:rolleyes: They'd probably also run instead of argue if it was "For all intensive purposes, I suggest y'all duck" ...
:-D :laugh:
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim
Tim Carmichael wrote:
My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'
I grew up in middle Massachusetts. I grew up dropping the r in park and Harvard, and adding it into idear and vaniller. I also thought that pen and pin were homonyms. However, I was also lucky enough to grow up when English was taught quite throroughly - two years of sentence diagramming, weekly vocabulary drills, essay tests in history that one could flunk because of bad grammar, spelling, etc. So in spoken English, I was a product of my geography, but in written English I was a product of my education.
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Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.
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Leslie Sanford wrote:
There is a problem with the above sentence
A failure to communicate with anyone.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Well, I was misusing "begs the question." It's suppose to mean an exercise in circular logic, but the popular use is to say "begs the question" when you really mean raises the question.
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Well, I was misusing "begs the question." It's suppose to mean an exercise in circular logic, but the popular use is to say "begs the question" when you really mean raises the question.