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  • T Tom Delany

    I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

    WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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    Miszou
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    Several years ago, my wife asked our young daughter to spell 'mirror'. She said 'M-E-E-R', because that's how it sounds with a California accent. :P Also, a colleague at work insists on saying 'hoover' instead of 'hover'. It's very distracting to hear something like, "If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink...". :doh:

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      Several years ago, my wife asked our young daughter to spell 'mirror'. She said 'M-E-E-R', because that's how it sounds with a California accent. :P Also, a colleague at work insists on saying 'hoover' instead of 'hover'. It's very distracting to hear something like, "If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink...". :doh:

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      Miszou wrote:

      "If you hoover the mouse over the hyperlink..."

      Presumably that would involve jerking the cursor rapidly back-and-forth over the link, cursing as the link obstinately fails to move... ;)

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        "Y'all" is a proper word. Here's a texas-oriented example... Half a dozen English teachers are out for a day's hunt. One of them stops and says, "I'm gonna put on a blindfold and spin around shooting my shotgun. I suggest y'all duck." I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".

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        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

        I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".

        :rolleyes: They'd probably also run instead of argue if it was "For all intensive purposes, I suggest y'all duck" ...

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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          I doubt very seriously that any of the other guys will stand around arguing about that guy's use of "y'all".

          :rolleyes: They'd probably also run instead of argue if it was "For all intensive purposes, I suggest y'all duck" ...

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          :-D :laugh:

          WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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          • T Tim Carmichael

            Yesterday, my wife, out 2 year old daughter, my mother-in-law and my wife's neice were out driving somewhere. My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'... My wife corrected her and asked her to use proper English when speaking because she doesn't want our daughter to use improper words. Then, my wife said, and I quote... "Y'all need to think about what you're saying..." I laughed and pointed out her word usage; the hit in the arm was worth it! Tim

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            Tim Carmichael wrote:

            My mother-in-law said something about having a 'idear'

            I grew up in middle Massachusetts. I grew up dropping the r in park and Harvard, and adding it into idear and vaniller. I also thought that pen and pin were homonyms. However, I was also lucky enough to grow up when English was taught quite throroughly - two years of sentence diagramming, weekly vocabulary drills, essay tests in history that one could flunk because of bad grammar, spelling, etc. So in spoken English, I was a product of my geography, but in written English I was a product of my education.

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            • L Leslie Sanford

              Of course, all of this begs the question of how competent programmers can be writing programs when they can't even competently communicate to one another in English. There is a problem with the above sentence.

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              Leslie Sanford wrote:

              There is a problem with the above sentence

              A failure to communicate with anyone.

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                Leslie Sanford wrote:

                There is a problem with the above sentence

                A failure to communicate with anyone.

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                Leslie Sanford
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                Well, I was misusing "begs the question." It's suppose to mean an exercise in circular logic, but the popular use is to say "begs the question" when you really mean raises the question.

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                • L Leslie Sanford

                  Well, I was misusing "begs the question." It's suppose to mean an exercise in circular logic, but the popular use is to say "begs the question" when you really mean raises the question.

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                  I admit I skipped right over that - but, I believe that one communicates with other people, not to, yes? Although a message or other inanimate thing can be communicated to a person.

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                  • O Oakman

                    I admit I skipped right over that - but, I believe that one communicates with other people, not to, yes? Although a message or other inanimate thing can be communicated to a person.

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                    Leslie Sanford
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                    Oakman wrote:

                    I admit I skipped right over that - but, I believe that one communicates with other people, not to, yes?

                    Ah! And I skimmed over the "with" in your reply. Yes, "communicating with one another" would have been a better way of saying it. So it turns out that there was more than one thing wrong with that sentence. :)

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                      Oakman wrote:

                      I admit I skipped right over that - but, I believe that one communicates with other people, not to, yes?

                      Ah! And I skimmed over the "with" in your reply. Yes, "communicating with one another" would have been a better way of saying it. So it turns out that there was more than one thing wrong with that sentence. :)

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                      Leslie Sanford wrote:

                      So it turns out that there was more than one thing wrong with that sentence

                      I think it was really sporting of you to give everyone two chances. ;)

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                      • E El Corazon

                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Y'all remember them thar days, righty?

                        yeah, I remember them days.... why we used to walk ten miles in the snow to school every morning while chopping down trees for firewood, and then collect them trees and carry them back on the way home.... yup, life was hard back then, the youth of today got it easy! :-D

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                        • T Tom Delany

                          I guess I am a curmudgeon today. I was sitting here Googling for information on a programming question (which I will NOT mention here), when I came across an old Microsoft forum post in which two guys were going back and forth. I don't know if English was either one's first language or not, but the following caught my eye: "But marshaling this byte array, which, for all intensive purposes, holds exactly the same type and style of data as an unsigned char array would in C++ ...". I assume he meant "all intents and purposes". Maybe he really has "intensive" purposes. :rolleyes: Then, the other guy, in his answer, comes up with this gem: First, he lists two different ways to accomplish the same thing in C++ code. Then the gem... "Note: both 1 and 2 are threaten the same by the interop marshaler, only the C code semantics differs." Now maybe I've not done enough with .NET interop, but I have yet to see the interop marshaller "threaten" anyone or anything... It is Microsoft code, so I guess anything is possible... Reminds me of the old boss I had that used to say that something was a "mute point" (rather than a moot point). :mad: I guess I'll crawl back into my cave now...

                          WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          I know an Englishman (not even an American, mind you) on CP who regularly says "I could of done it..." And don't even get me started on the your/you're thing.... :mad:

                          Cheers, Vikram.


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                          • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                            I know an Englishman (not even an American, mind you) on CP who regularly says "I could of done it..." And don't even get me started on the your/you're thing.... :mad:

                            Cheers, Vikram.


                            The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                            Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                            And don't even get me started on the your/you're thing

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