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Crystal Reports - We All Love to Hate

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    Tim Carmichael
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    Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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      Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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      Chris Meech
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      You probably have to install the service pack the square number of fixes you are trying to apply. Good Luck. :)

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        Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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        keyboard warrior
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        Tim Carmichael wrote:

        Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

        i spent 4 months on my last job preparing crystal reports and web interfaces for them. overall once i figured it all out it was okay, but yea, there are a lot of querks or things that behave in ways you would not expect at all. like the one you mentioned.

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        • T Tim Carmichael

          Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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          Shog9 0
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          Tim Carmichael wrote:

          After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system???

          To be fair, i've made similar mistakes. Test on printers that won't do multiple copies printer- or driver-side, and it can slip through. Granted, i don't make or sell commercial-quality reporting components. But, i could argue, neither does Crystal... :rolleyes:

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          • T Tim Carmichael

            Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            Tim Carmichael wrote:

            Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

            I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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            • T Tim Carmichael

              Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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              The worst part is, instead of releasing an immediate hot fix to an issue this potentially damaging, they batched it up into a service pack. How many offices burned through how many cases of paper before this got fixed?

              Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The width of the river increases slightly every day, except when it shrinks. Your budget does not allow for you to use concrete or steel - you can only afford timber and cut stone. Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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                Tim Carmichael wrote:

                Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

                I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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                Pete OHanlon
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                Sql reporting services. XML/XSL XtraReports ... the list goes on.

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                • T Tim Carmichael

                  Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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                  Tim Carmichael wrote:

                  Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else...

                  Now repeat after me, go on it's therapeutic "Crystal Reports sucks. Business Objects sucks. I will not use Crystal Reports, even if it's free". Now have yourself a nice herbal tea and a massage, you've achieved inner peace.

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                    Tim Carmichael wrote:

                    Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else...

                    Now repeat after me, go on it's therapeutic "Crystal Reports sucks. Business Objects sucks. I will not use Crystal Reports, even if it's free". Now have yourself a nice herbal tea and a massage, you've achieved inner peace.

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                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    Crystal Reports sucks

                    But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      Crystal Reports sucks

                      But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                      Boukh wrote:

                      But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

                      Now then... that makes the whole thing completely different.

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                        Sql reporting services. XML/XSL XtraReports ... the list goes on.

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                        Thanks, I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future, but I'm definately going to take a serious look at Xtrareports.

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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          Crystal Reports sucks

                          But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                          Boukh wrote:

                          But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

                          Oh well - I'll change my opinion then. Nope sorry, you've mistaken me for somebody who actually cares what reports you've produced.

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                          • T Tim Carmichael

                            Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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                            Tim Carmichael wrote:

                            When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9...

                            Perhaps it was by design - you all know that feeling when you get to a meeting and you realise you haven't printed off enough copies for all of the attendees :)

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                              Thanks, I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future, but I'm definately going to take a serious look at Xtrareports.

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                              I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future

                              Well, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

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                                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                Crystal Reports sucks

                                But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                                Jorgen Andersson
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                                I call it lack of competition! :|

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                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future

                                  Well, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

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                                  Jorgen Andersson
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                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  ell, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

                                  Well, my company doesn't have the turnover of a small nation, nor am I able to clone myself. I think I'll have a look at your previous suggestion :)

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                                    I call it lack of competition! :|

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                                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                    I call it lack of competition!

                                    competition with whom

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                                      Tim Carmichael wrote:

                                      Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

                                      I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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                                      There's always the FlowDocument class[^] and the rest of the System.Windows.Documents[^] namespace for you to roll your own...

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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        I call it lack of competition!

                                        competition with whom

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Boukh wrote:

                                        competition with whom

                                        Never mind. Feel free to chip into this conversation when you understand what's being said.

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                                          Boukh wrote:

                                          competition with whom

                                          Never mind. Feel free to chip into this conversation when you understand what's being said.

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                                          why you people hate every thing that works

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