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  • T Tim Carmichael

    Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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    Jorgen Andersson
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    Tim Carmichael wrote:

    Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

    I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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    • T Tim Carmichael

      Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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      Robert Royall
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      The worst part is, instead of releasing an immediate hot fix to an issue this potentially damaging, they batched it up into a service pack. How many offices burned through how many cases of paper before this got fixed?

      Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The width of the river increases slightly every day, except when it shrinks. Your budget does not allow for you to use concrete or steel - you can only afford timber and cut stone. Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer

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        Tim Carmichael wrote:

        Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

        I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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        Pete OHanlon
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        Sql reporting services. XML/XSL XtraReports ... the list goes on.

        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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        • T Tim Carmichael

          Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Tim Carmichael wrote:

          Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else...

          Now repeat after me, go on it's therapeutic "Crystal Reports sucks. Business Objects sucks. I will not use Crystal Reports, even if it's free". Now have yourself a nice herbal tea and a massage, you've achieved inner peace.

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            Tim Carmichael wrote:

            Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else...

            Now repeat after me, go on it's therapeutic "Crystal Reports sucks. Business Objects sucks. I will not use Crystal Reports, even if it's free". Now have yourself a nice herbal tea and a massage, you've achieved inner peace.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            Lost User
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            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

            Crystal Reports sucks

            But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              Crystal Reports sucks

              But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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              Smithers Jones
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              Boukh wrote:

              But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

              Now then... that makes the whole thing completely different.

              "I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by." (DNA)

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                Sql reporting services. XML/XSL XtraReports ... the list goes on.

                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                My blog | My articles

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                Thanks, I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future, but I'm definately going to take a serious look at Xtrareports.

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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Crystal Reports sucks

                  But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                  Boukh wrote:

                  But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

                  Oh well - I'll change my opinion then. Nope sorry, you've mistaken me for somebody who actually cares what reports you've produced.

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                  • T Tim Carmichael

                    Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace. Today, one of the users reported an issue when printing reports from the Intranet; they were getting multiple copies. When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9... After much searching, I found a serivce pack to address the issue... but, come on! What developer allowed THAT to slide into a commercial system??? Hopefully, the service pack doesn't break anything else... Tim

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                    Tim Carmichael wrote:

                    When I investigated, I discovered that the number of copies being printing was the square of the number of copies requested. Request 1, get one; request 2, get 4; request 3, get 9...

                    Perhaps it was by design - you all know that feeling when you get to a meeting and you realise you haven't printed off enough copies for all of the attendees :)

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                      Thanks, I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future, but I'm definately going to take a serious look at Xtrareports.

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                      Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                      I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future

                      Well, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        Crystal Reports sucks

                        But Crystal Reports is one of the successful reports that i dealed with

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                        I call it lack of competition! :|

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                          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                          I'm stuck with Oracle for the foreseeable future

                          Well, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

                          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                          ell, there's always this[^] hugely expensive, overkill solution.

                          Well, my company doesn't have the turnover of a small nation, nor am I able to clone myself. I think I'll have a look at your previous suggestion :)

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                            I call it lack of competition! :|

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                            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                            I call it lack of competition!

                            competition with whom

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              Tim Carmichael wrote:

                              Yes, we all love to hate Crystal Reports, but, sometimes, we are forced to use it at our workplace.

                              I've come to the same conclusion. But then I wondered, are there really no good alternatives? So as a little question to all CPians out there, which alternatives are there for making printed reports?

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                              Duncan Edwards Jones
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                              There's always the FlowDocument class[^] and the rest of the System.Windows.Documents[^] namespace for you to roll your own...

                              '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd

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                                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                I call it lack of competition!

                                competition with whom

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                                Pete OHanlon
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                                Boukh wrote:

                                competition with whom

                                Never mind. Feel free to chip into this conversation when you understand what's being said.

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                                  Boukh wrote:

                                  competition with whom

                                  Never mind. Feel free to chip into this conversation when you understand what's being said.

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                                  why you people hate every thing that works

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                                    why you people hate every thing that works

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                                    steve ballmer is a god among men.

                                    ----------------------------------------------------------- Completion Deadline: two days before the day after tomorrow

                                    modified on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:30 PM

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                                      steve ballmer is a god among men.

                                      ----------------------------------------------------------- Completion Deadline: two days before the day after tomorrow

                                      modified on Tuesday, April 22, 2008 5:30 PM

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                                      jgasm wrote:

                                      steve ballmer

                                      he is a microsoft gay after all

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                                        jgasm wrote:

                                        steve ballmer

                                        he is a microsoft gay after all

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                                        Pete OHanlon
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                                        Boukh wrote:

                                        he is a microsoft gay after all

                                        Wow - I hadn't realised he'd come out of the closet. :rolleyes:

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                                          Boukh wrote:

                                          he is a microsoft gay after all

                                          Wow - I hadn't realised he'd come out of the closet. :rolleyes:

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                                          Lost User
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                                          why do you hate microsoft that much

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