A role model?
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They said I could never be a doctor[^]! With the backing of one consultant she made it despite everyone else telling her to give up. Any other role models people would like to list? Here[^] is another possibility, admittedly one I don't know well. Elaine :rose:
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
Very cool.
Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
Chris Duncan, Gary Wheeler, and Rama Krishna Vavilala. Rohit Sinha too (does anybody remember him?).
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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They said I could never be a doctor[^]! With the backing of one consultant she made it despite everyone else telling her to give up. Any other role models people would like to list? Here[^] is another possibility, admittedly one I don't know well. Elaine :rose:
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
Oh yeah, Steve "the woz" Wozniak all the way, and my dad ofcourse!
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Very cool.
Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
Chris Duncan, Gary Wheeler, and Rama Krishna Vavilala. Rohit Sinha too (does anybody remember him?).
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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Very cool.
Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
Chris Duncan, Gary Wheeler, and Rama Krishna Vavilala. Rohit Sinha too (does anybody remember him?).
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Rama Krishna Vavilala.
:rolleyes: Then, I should avoid trying to meet you. Because as soon as you will meet me, you will strike my name off the list.
This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE
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They said I could never be a doctor[^]! With the backing of one consultant she made it despite everyone else telling her to give up. Any other role models people would like to list? Here[^] is another possibility, admittedly one I don't know well. Elaine :rose:
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
My grandfather who got his GED and certification for working on Medical HVAC in the same year, at the age of 45. My great grandfather who was told he had less than a year to live, at the age of 92, he died at age of 98.5. :laugh: being stubborn runs in the family. ;P
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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Trollslayer wrote:
Any other role models people would like to list?
Oh yeah, Steve "the woz" Wozniak all the way, and my dad ofcourse!
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Unfortunately he's going around now pimping books he wrote where he claims to have invented the personal computer.
"The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy
Unless history is lying, that's basically exactly what he did tho.
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Unless history is lying, that's basically exactly what he did tho.
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No he did not. His work improved upon prior personal computers and kits that were around previously. To claim he invented the personal computer is profoundly wrong. If he claimed he helped or improved upon etc then I'd be fine with that but to say he invented it is a baldfaced lie. The amount of people that were around at that time and know what was happening are vanishingly small these days so it's a claim that will go over unquestioned with the great majority, but I think it's an insult to dozens if not hundreds of people who were working in the field before he came around.
"The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy
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No he did not. His work improved upon prior personal computers and kits that were around previously. To claim he invented the personal computer is profoundly wrong. If he claimed he helped or improved upon etc then I'd be fine with that but to say he invented it is a baldfaced lie. The amount of people that were around at that time and know what was happening are vanishingly small these days so it's a claim that will go over unquestioned with the great majority, but I think it's an insult to dozens if not hundreds of people who were working in the field before he came around.
"The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy
uhm, say what you want, but it was Woz who coined the term "Personal Computer" there were homebrew machines around when he built his, but all that is moot since nobody could afford one, nobody that wasn't an engineer and had access to the parts, and the skills to put it together. Either way, first or not, his is the one that made the difference. To me anyway, so he'll still be my hero.
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uhm, say what you want, but it was Woz who coined the term "Personal Computer" there were homebrew machines around when he built his, but all that is moot since nobody could afford one, nobody that wasn't an engineer and had access to the parts, and the skills to put it together. Either way, first or not, his is the one that made the difference. To me anyway, so he'll still be my hero.
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theredhead wrote:
but it was Woz who coined the term "Personal Computer"
No, in fact it wasn't. The first usage of the term "Personal Computer" in a commercial product advertisement was in Oct. 1968 for the HP 911A. You don't have a solid grasp on all this but that's fine, it's ancient history now anyway and I realize no one gives a crap about what is right anymore, just what "feels" right. :)
"The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy
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Unless history is lying, that's basically exactly what he did tho.
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uhm, say what you want, but it was Woz who coined the term "Personal Computer" there were homebrew machines around when he built his, but all that is moot since nobody could afford one, nobody that wasn't an engineer and had access to the parts, and the skills to put it together. Either way, first or not, his is the one that made the difference. To me anyway, so he'll still be my hero.
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theredhead wrote:
there were homebrew machines around when he built his, but all that is moot since nobody could afford one, nobody that wasn't an engineer and had access to the parts, and the skills to put it together.
The Altair came in a kit if you wanted to put it together, but they also sold them pre-assembled. Definitely not homebrew, and came out a year before the Apple I.
Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The width of the river increases slightly every day, except when it shrinks. Your budget does not allow for you to use concrete or steel - you can only afford timber and cut stone. Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer
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He's no more the inventor of the PC than Al Gore is the inventor of the internet. :rolleyes:
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon
dan neely wrote:
He's no more the inventor of the PC than Al Gore is the inventor of the internet. :rolleyes:
So, you are in fact agreeing then, that Steve Wozniak invented the Personal Computer.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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dan neely wrote:
He's no more the inventor of the PC than Al Gore is the inventor of the internet. :rolleyes:
So, you are in fact agreeing then, that Steve Wozniak invented the Personal Computer.
Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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theredhead wrote:
there were homebrew machines around when he built his, but all that is moot since nobody could afford one, nobody that wasn't an engineer and had access to the parts, and the skills to put it together.
The Altair came in a kit if you wanted to put it together, but they also sold them pre-assembled. Definitely not homebrew, and came out a year before the Apple I.
Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The width of the river increases slightly every day, except when it shrinks. Your budget does not allow for you to use concrete or steel - you can only afford timber and cut stone. Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer
the altair was a box with switches in no way similar to the personal computer we know today so what's your point?
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the altair was a box with switches in no way similar to the personal computer we know today so what's your point?
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My point was that the Altair was the first commercial machine available to every day people that used a commodity, mainstream processor (the 8088 I believe). It may have been a glorified calculator, but what do you think personal computers are in the first place?
Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The width of the river increases slightly every day, except when it shrinks. Your budget does not allow for you to use concrete or steel - you can only afford timber and cut stone. Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer