Calling for mr. John Simmons
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Crap--I totally did not realize who I was posting too-I thought it was Ilidiot. My apologies; I'm going to redo the post. As for the offenders, some people have let me know whom not to waste their time on. If you don't want to know or care then don't read it; kind of like how I am when I see any post by fat-boy and global warming.
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leckey wrote:
Crap--I totally did not realize who I was posting too-I thought it was Ilidiot. My apologies; I'm going to redo the post.
Leave it, I don't care. I'm a complete bastard with 12 inch thick skin anyways. Besides, you are not among the select few that I enjoy giving a hard time to.
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Leckey has the timeframe wrong Vikram. Hamed posted a thread in the lounge about compilation errors. Then Simmons replied to him (see John's post above for the contents). The Iranian guy was upset by that and asked to continue the discussion here. It went from there. To be honest, I think Hamed has conducted himself quite respectably and certainly didn't deserve the comments from John.
I have to agree that Hamed was very cool about it and actually gave some very articulate explanations/responses.
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leckey wrote:
Crap--I totally did not realize who I was posting too-I thought it was Ilidiot. My apologies; I'm going to redo the post.
Leave it, I don't care. I'm a complete bastard with 12 inch thick skin anyways. Besides, you are not among the select few that I enjoy giving a hard time to.
73Zeppelin wrote:
you are not among the select few that I enjoy giving a hard time to
I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not! ;P
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Clearly, she didn't. She said "They kept it clean and then the guy from Iran started a thread in the Lounge."
73Zeppelin wrote:
To be honest, I think Hamed has conducted himself quite respectably
Oh, I totally agree.
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
Hey I wanted to ask you something. You know those bread things (the name escapes me at the moment) that you wanted to roll on the x-ray film? What do you traditionally eat those with? I've got a recipe for them and want to know what to eat them with.
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Clearly, she didn't. She said "They kept it clean and then the guy from Iran started a thread in the Lounge."
73Zeppelin wrote:
To be honest, I think Hamed has conducted himself quite respectably
Oh, I totally agree.
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
you are not among the select few that I enjoy giving a hard time to
I'm not sure if that's a compliment or not! ;P
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Heh. I admit sometimes I am a complete asshole. There's been a number of times that I felt bad about some of the stuff I've written on here. That's not to say that a few of the people I directed it at didn't deserve it - it's more afterwards I felt I should have been more civil.
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Heh. I admit sometimes I am a complete asshole. There's been a number of times that I felt bad about some of the stuff I've written on here. That's not to say that a few of the people I directed it at didn't deserve it - it's more afterwards I felt I should have been more civil.
Some people deserve it no matter what. I think we got into once because your wife is 100% Iroquois and I'm not full NATIVE AMERICAN (again--for Viky). I think we get frustrated in general (like dealing with idiots in the forums) so when I new person asks 'how to create a chat application?' we can't take it anymore and explode.
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[I thought I was responding to someone else and had made a comment that was not directed to that person.] I've seen A LOT of discrimination against NATIVE AMERICANS (that's for Uptight Vik). Ilidiot seems to think we have all smoked pot and love everyone.
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modified on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 2:04 PM
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Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
Violence generates violence.
Well, no, *people* generate violence. And the reason revolutions almost always turn out bad (and frequently worse than what came before) isn't due to violence, necessarily. It's the rationales for the violence ... and the "acceptable" limits to the use of violence ... which largely determine the end-result. Even something as "irrational" and collective as a revolution or a war (or even mere mob-violence) has an internal logic to which it will conform.
Ilíon wrote:
Well, no, *people* generate violence.
Yep, that's what I meant.
Ilíon wrote:
It's the rationales for the violence ... and the "acceptable" limits to the use of violence ... which largely determine the end-result.
Totally agree on that.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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...or any military junta in South America.
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...and Central America and North America (we had one that endured from 1929 until 2000). Yes, there are plenty of examples.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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Some people deserve it no matter what. I think we got into once because your wife is 100% Iroquois and I'm not full NATIVE AMERICAN (again--for Viky). I think we get frustrated in general (like dealing with idiots in the forums) so when I new person asks 'how to create a chat application?' we can't take it anymore and explode.
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Matthew Faithfull wrote:
As far as we can tell the US is doing precisely that inside Iran, i.e. behaving as a terrorist state which kind of explains a lot of what's coming back the other way
Gotta link?
No, it's practically impossible to get hard information because the Iranian regieme doesn't want to show weakness by admitting what's going on. To get a good picture you'd need to compile the fragmentary reports of terrorist incidents in south and southwest Iran over the past few years, there have been quite a few and correlate them with statements out of the pentagon and from the likes of John Bolton. Those who've done this and some sources I'm not going to name have concluded that CIA agents are stirring up tribal tensions inside Iran. That they're spending quite a lot of money is clear and the money trail appears to lead back to the Pentagon. The connection between this stirring and inter-tribal violence can only be speculated at but it doesn't take a genius to work out what's going on. It is of course possible that my conclusions on this are wrong but that would require an alternative explanation of what the money is being spent on inside Iran and a breaking of precedent. If you want to know more look up the history of Prime Minister Mossadeq[^] and his removal at the hands of British and American agents in operation Ajax.
"The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage." Thucydides (B.C. 460-400)
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You've obviously never lived where there are Indian reservations.
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leckey wrote:
You've obviously never lived where there are Indian reservations.
No, I never have lived near a reservation. I went to school with an Indian boy ... whose father my mother had gone to school with. No reservations in sight. [edit: though, if I remember right, the father had been born on a reservation] My grandfather never told my mother his mother was an Indian (Miami, probably, being Indiana and all). She learned after his death the reason her stepmother would call him "Sitting Bull" when she was angry with him. My father's mother denied my direct question whether she was part Indian. After her death, my father's older brother answered the same question with: "Yes, 'her people' were Indians." (Creek? Cherokee? Shawnee? Beats me!). My father's father was known by all "our people" to be the grandson of an Indian woman (Cherokee). My father's mother was known by all "our people" to be the granddaughter of a Jewish woman. And other than the odd facts that my grandmother and grandfather themselves were apparently embarrassed to be part Indian, I can't see that anyone else ever cared. But no, I've never lived near a reservation. edit: And cousins on both sides are Mexicans. Which is to say, they are Indians or part-Indians. And no one cares ... but then, they do speak English! edit2: And I also have black relatives, including a new grand-niece ... on top of having lived much of my childhood as a child of the only "white" family for blocks around. And no one cares.
modified on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:37 PM
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Ilíon wrote:
Well, no, *people* generate violence.
Yep, that's what I meant.
Ilíon wrote:
It's the rationales for the violence ... and the "acceptable" limits to the use of violence ... which largely determine the end-result.
Totally agree on that.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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leckey wrote:
You've obviously never lived where there are Indian reservations.
No, I never have lived near a reservation. I went to school with an Indian boy ... whose father my mother had gone to school with. No reservations in sight. [edit: though, if I remember right, the father had been born on a reservation] My grandfather never told my mother his mother was an Indian (Miami, probably, being Indiana and all). She learned after his death the reason her stepmother would call him "Sitting Bull" when she was angry with him. My father's mother denied my direct question whether she was part Indian. After her death, my father's older brother answered the same question with: "Yes, 'her people' were Indians." (Creek? Cherokee? Shawnee? Beats me!). My father's father was known by all "our people" to be the grandson of an Indian woman (Cherokee). My father's mother was known by all "our people" to be the granddaughter of a Jewish woman. And other than the odd facts that my grandmother and grandfather themselves were apparently embarrassed to be part Indian, I can't see that anyone else ever cared. But no, I've never lived near a reservation. edit: And cousins on both sides are Mexicans. Which is to say, they are Indians or part-Indians. And no one cares ... but then, they do speak English! edit2: And I also have black relatives, including a new grand-niece ... on top of having lived much of my childhood as a child of the only "white" family for blocks around. And no one cares.
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Ilíon wrote:
my grandmother and grandfather themselves were apparently embarrassed to be part Indian
My husband's great grandmother used to say they were part "gypsy." We didn't know until after she died and we went through some of her things that she meant NATIVE AMERICAN.
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...and Central America and North America (we had one that endured from 1929 until 2000). Yes, there are plenty of examples.
Stupidity is an International Association - Enrique Jardiel Poncela
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Some people deserve it no matter what. I think we got into once because your wife is 100% Iroquois and I'm not full NATIVE AMERICAN (again--for Viky). I think we get frustrated in general (like dealing with idiots in the forums) so when I new person asks 'how to create a chat application?' we can't take it anymore and explode.
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Yes, she's Iroquois, that's correct. I think you have to take the forums with a grain of salt.
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Ilíon wrote:
my grandmother and grandfather themselves were apparently embarrassed to be part Indian
My husband's great grandmother used to say they were part "gypsy." We didn't know until after she died and we went through some of her things that she meant NATIVE AMERICAN.
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And in the now, and just as I said and which you were trying to dispute, the typical American sees first another individual human being when he interacts with another. The typical American does not *want* to see others as the local incarnation of some group, he *wants* to see each individual as his own unique self. To get that "group-identity" BS, one has to find some "liberals."
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Yes, she's Iroquois, that's correct. I think you have to take the forums with a grain of salt.
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:rolleyes: