Calling for mr. John Simmons
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I don't mind if you jump in. You've obviously had a different experience than I have. Perhaps it's because I worked in a medical environment where I saw alot of death and suffering. I think age comes with increased responsibility, your mileage may vary but I don't think Ravel is up for mortgage or car payments or taxes or complicated relationships...
73Zeppelin wrote:
You've obviously had a different experience than I have
Abusive violent father, monastery boarding school, public school (public as in Tom Brown schooldays, ie, a vicous and nasty place). Yeah, youth was a real gas...
73Zeppelin wrote:
Perhaps it's because I worked in a medical environment where I saw alot of death and suffering.
True, but like I wrote, life is choice.
73Zeppelin wrote:
I think age comes with increased responsibility
Can do, again, its a choice. You dont have to get a mortgage, and running an old junker is easy. If ity breaks chuck it and buy another. As for relationships, well, they can always be complex, particularly male/female.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Well, I can't compare my teens to my thirties, obviously, and you seem to be discouraging me from enjoying myself...:suss:
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
and you seem to be discouraging me from enjoying myself...
Oh no, quite the opposite, just that the scope for self exploration and enjoyment is vastly greater post mid 20's (actually, university is pretty good fun too, so even post 18 life gets a lot more fun. I mean seriously much more fun)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
and you seem to be discouraging me from enjoying myself...
Oh no, quite the opposite, just that the scope for self exploration and enjoyment is vastly greater post mid 20's (actually, university is pretty good fun too, so even post 18 life gets a lot more fun. I mean seriously much more fun)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Well, OK then! :)
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
You've obviously had a different experience than I have
Abusive violent father, monastery boarding school, public school (public as in Tom Brown schooldays, ie, a vicous and nasty place). Yeah, youth was a real gas...
73Zeppelin wrote:
Perhaps it's because I worked in a medical environment where I saw alot of death and suffering.
True, but like I wrote, life is choice.
73Zeppelin wrote:
I think age comes with increased responsibility
Can do, again, its a choice. You dont have to get a mortgage, and running an old junker is easy. If ity breaks chuck it and buy another. As for relationships, well, they can always be complex, particularly male/female.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Abusive violent father, monastery boarding school, public school (public as in Tom Brown schooldays, ie, a vicous and nasty place). Yeah, youth was a real gas...
My parents were fine, but I had the same type of public school experience as you.
fat_boy wrote:
Can do, again, its a choice. You dont have to get a mortgage, and running an old junker is easy. If ity breaks chuck it and buy another.
There's very few people can buy a house outright. Renting sucks and living in a box doesn't exactly get your mail delivered. Anyways, I gave him my experience it's good he sees another side.
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fat_boy wrote:
Abusive violent father, monastery boarding school, public school (public as in Tom Brown schooldays, ie, a vicous and nasty place). Yeah, youth was a real gas...
My parents were fine, but I had the same type of public school experience as you.
fat_boy wrote:
Can do, again, its a choice. You dont have to get a mortgage, and running an old junker is easy. If ity breaks chuck it and buy another.
There's very few people can buy a house outright. Renting sucks and living in a box doesn't exactly get your mail delivered. Anyways, I gave him my experience it's good he sees another side.
73Zeppelin wrote:
My parents were fine
You were lucky.
73Zeppelin wrote:
but I had the same type of public school experience as you
Beaten by monks? Systematic bullying? Actually some of the monks got done for sexually abusing boys a few years after the school closed. Fortunately I was spared this experience at least. Generally, a brutalising and destructive experience. Probably explains why I am slightly sociopathic although it is overridden by alcohol and fags.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Renting sucks
Can do thats for sure.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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73Zeppelin wrote:
My parents were fine
You were lucky.
73Zeppelin wrote:
but I had the same type of public school experience as you
Beaten by monks? Systematic bullying? Actually some of the monks got done for sexually abusing boys a few years after the school closed. Fortunately I was spared this experience at least. Generally, a brutalising and destructive experience. Probably explains why I am slightly sociopathic although it is overridden by alcohol and fags.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Renting sucks
Can do thats for sure.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Not beaten by monks, but certainly by peers. And systematic bullying, yes.
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Not beaten by monks, but certainly by peers. And systematic bullying, yes.
73Zeppelin wrote:
Not beaten by monks, but certainly by peers. And systematic bullying, yes.
And you would cash your chips in to go back? :wtf: :omg: :confused: The only way I'd go back is with a fucking pump action shotgun. :mad:
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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73Zeppelin wrote:
Not beaten by monks, but certainly by peers. And systematic bullying, yes.
And you would cash your chips in to go back? :wtf: :omg: :confused: The only way I'd go back is with a fucking pump action shotgun. :mad:
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Not for that part. :rolleyes: For other reasons. Mainly to forget some of the other things I've witnessed. These days I have to make do with beer.
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Not for that part. :rolleyes: For other reasons. Mainly to forget some of the other things I've witnessed. These days I have to make do with beer.
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Not for that part. :rolleyes: For other reasons. Mainly to forget some of the other things I've witnessed. These days I have to make do with beer.
73Zeppelin wrote:
For other reasons. Mainly to forget some of the other things I've witnessed. These days I have to make do with beer.
:( That's...horrible.
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
For other reasons. Mainly to forget some of the other things I've witnessed. These days I have to make do with beer.
:( That's...horrible.
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
There are much more horrible things in this world, trust me.
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So you would go bacj just so you could choose a different path perhaps?
73Zeppelin wrote:
These days I have to make do with beer.
Amen to that!
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
So you would go bacj just so you could choose a different path perhaps?
Hard to say. I worked at a cancer centre that handled pediatric cases. If you ever want to question the existence of god, try working in an environment like that for several years. Then you'll understand why Faithfull and Idiot are so full of shit as to think that somehow god smiles upon them while others and their children die in misery. And now Ravel knows why I drink beer to forget.
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fat_boy wrote:
So you would go bacj just so you could choose a different path perhaps?
Hard to say. I worked at a cancer centre that handled pediatric cases. If you ever want to question the existence of god, try working in an environment like that for several years. Then you'll understand why Faithfull and Idiot are so full of shit as to think that somehow god smiles upon them while others and their children die in misery. And now Ravel knows why I drink beer to forget.
Uhh, umm, holy crap... Are you all right?
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
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fat_boy wrote:
So you would go bacj just so you could choose a different path perhaps?
Hard to say. I worked at a cancer centre that handled pediatric cases. If you ever want to question the existence of god, try working in an environment like that for several years. Then you'll understand why Faithfull and Idiot are so full of shit as to think that somehow god smiles upon them while others and their children die in misery. And now Ravel knows why I drink beer to forget.
73Zeppelin wrote:
I worked at a cancer centre that handled pediatric cases
Eek. I can imagine thats a little tough to handle. As you say, it makes it very clear that either there is no one up there in charge, or if there is, he/she/it is utterly incompetent and worthy of total disrespect. Do you have kids yourself? I could imagine after wehat you saw it might be difficult to imagine having them yourself.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Uhh, umm, holy crap... Are you all right?
Drawing on my fine command of language, I said nothing.
The turnover rate at such institutions is very high Ravel. Not just for physicists but also for the oncologists and other support staff. The stress is extremely high especially for palliative cases (patients that can't be helped but are treated just to relieve the pain and discomfort). I went into the field wanting to contribute to helping people and did much research to that end. In the end I couldn't take it anymore and had to leave. Dealing with sick and terminally ill patients is very hard, especially when they are children. It's difficult because regardless of what you do for them, the outcome is fixed. It's one of the reasons I have such intolerance for some of the posters here - it's difficult to accept that they live while others have not.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
I worked at a cancer centre that handled pediatric cases
Eek. I can imagine thats a little tough to handle. As you say, it makes it very clear that either there is no one up there in charge, or if there is, he/she/it is utterly incompetent and worthy of total disrespect. Do you have kids yourself? I could imagine after wehat you saw it might be difficult to imagine having them yourself.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
Do you have kids yourself? I could imagine after wehat you saw it might be difficult to imagine having them yourself.
That's kind of a loaded question. I got into it once already on here and regret doing so. Maybe that's enough information so you can read between the lines a little bit.
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leckey wrote:
Yet foreigners keep trying to get in...interesting.
Somehow I imagine they're drawn mainly to the opportunites rather than the people. You guys are not the only ones with the "hordes at the door"
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fat_boy wrote:
Do you have kids yourself? I could imagine after wehat you saw it might be difficult to imagine having them yourself.
That's kind of a loaded question. I got into it once already on here and regret doing so. Maybe that's enough information so you can read between the lines a little bit.
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Hey I wanted to ask you something. You know those bread things (the name escapes me at the moment) that you wanted to roll on the x-ray film? What do you traditionally eat those with? I've got a recipe for them and want to know what to eat them with.
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Well, I wasn't mad at the guy - I cracked a joke and a lot of people became offended - even Hamed (once realizing I was playing with him) came down off the ledge. It surprises me that so many people (I'm taking about the regulars here) are still surprised and offended by anything I say. They know I insult as many people as I can in a given instance and whenever I see an opening, and they're equally aware that I don't mean anything by it. It's a little harmless fun at the expense of someone else. If someone wants to spar, they're more than welcome to step into the circle with me. This is really a lot of hullabaloo over nothing.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
It surprises me that so many people (I'm taking about the regulars here) are still surprised and offended by anything I say. They know I insult as many people as I can in a given instance and whenever I see an opening, and they're equally aware that I don't mean anything by it.
That doesn't make it right (or funny). Even Chris was offended (and surprised as well) by you.
modified on Thursday, May 8, 2008 2:24 PM
