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  • H Hans Dietrich

    Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

    I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile,

    So what? It's on leckey's blog, not here, and all you've managed to do is start another flame war in the Lounge. If you are really concerned about this (and personally I think you're right about leckey mis-reading the guy's post), then you should contact leckey directly. Marc Clifton also has his blog in his sig. Do you also vet his blog entries? Come on, guys, let's move on.

    Best wishes, Hans

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    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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    Hans Dietrich wrote:

    Come on, guys, let's move on.

    That's asking a lot of some people here unfortunately :(

    "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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      I agree with you on this whole heartedly Shog, but in Leckey's defense she wasn't the one that moved the battleground from there to here. I'm not blaming the thread starter for doing so, he just pointed it out.

      Shog9 wrote:

      I'm sorry, but i really don't see how this helps anything

      It does feel frustrating. Last year, I attempted to be active in the forums but I gave up after a few months because, as you said, its incredible the lameness of some of these questions. So I moved on. For leckey, this is just venting off some steam on her home ground no less.

      Shog9 wrote:

      But there is no arguing with one who lacks understanding, or chiding one who lacks shame. You only dishonor yourself in trying.

      Totally, but dishonoring yourself is a tad harsh don't you think? I agree with you on the principle, but I can see the attraction.

      "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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      Shog9 0
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      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      Totally, but dishonoring yourself is a tad harsh don't you think?

      No.

      Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

      I agree with you on the principle, but I can see the attraction.

      So can i. I've fallen victim to the same temptation plenty of times, and don't doubt that it'll happen again - but that doesn't make it right.

      Citizen 20.1.01

      'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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      • RaviBeeR RaviBee

        How about a ham & cheese smiley?  Mmmm... lightly toasted ham and cheese with crisp lettuce, juicy tomato and a bag o' Cape Cod chips. :cool: /ravi

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        I don't eat ham. :sigh:

        CP Offenders: Over 50 offenders and growing! Current rant: "Me thinks CP needs an application process!" http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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        • O Oakman

          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

          If I had your email address, I would have

          I though the "email" link at the bottom of every post provided a mechanism for reach the poster privately - am I wrong?

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          No you're not and Nish should have realized that.

          CP Offenders: Over 50 offenders and growing! Current rant: "Me thinks CP needs an application process!" http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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          • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

            Hans Dietrich wrote:

            Come on, guys, let's move on.

            That's asking a lot of some people here unfortunately :(

            "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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            Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

            That's asking a lot of some people here unfortunately

            Let's go back to talking about mice

            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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              Or a hug smilie?

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              Dan Neely
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              or a bludgeon with a clue bat smilie.

              You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon

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              • O Oakman

                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                That's asking a lot of some people here unfortunately

                Let's go back to talking about mice

                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                I wish one of those threads would just grow to insane proportions. That would be fun

                "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                  Trollslayer wrote:

                  Or a hug smilie?

                  Or a ham sandwich smiley.  Mmm ham... :cool: /ravi

                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                  You got my 5. My wife brought home a fine bag of honey ham a few minutes ago. It's lunch time! Cheers, Drew.

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                  • O Oakman

                    Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                    That's asking a lot of some people here unfortunately

                    Let's go back to talking about mice

                    Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    Pete OHanlon
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                    Feel free to talk about my hamster - it's soft and furry.

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                      First, I've got to admit that I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful. And I find it difficult to contemplate the level of disturbing reasoning that must have driven leckey into creating and maintaining such a list. But this post is more about the presence of d@nish[^] on the list which I think is totally bizarre. He's only got a 100 odd posts and most of them are helpful posts in the programming forums. He's listed in leckey's list as : d@nish: Asked the dumb question of 'can I be first to post in the Lounge?' I found a thread that he started yesterday titled "First Post at Lounge" where he asked the following question : "Just out of curiosity, I would like to get to the very first post at the Lounge. Is it possible?" I am not sure why leckey thinks the question is dumb nor do I understand why she thinks he was asking if he could be the first to post in the Lounge. If I were d@nish, I would treat this as gratuitous character assassination. I think leckey should either remove d@nish from that list or at least add herself to the list (if she really wants to keep it fair).

                      Regards, Nish

                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                      Reynolds Glisner
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                      I wouldn't take her list too seriously as its probably just her time of the month again.... :laugh:

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Feel free to talk about my hamster - it's soft and furry.

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                        Oakman
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        Feel free to talk about my hamster - it's soft and furry.

                        TMI X|

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                          No you're not and Nish should have realized that.

                          CP Offenders: Over 50 offenders and growing! Current rant: "Me thinks CP needs an application process!" http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]

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                          Oakman
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                          Seems to me that Nish chose to start a flame war rather than solve the problem, then. Too bad.

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                            I wouldn't take her list too seriously as its probably just her time of the month again.... :laugh:

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                            Chris Meech
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                            Trying to make the list I see.

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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              Feel free to talk about my hamster - it's soft and furry.

                              TMI X|

                              Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              Oakman wrote:

                              TMI [Dead]

                              LOL! WAAAAAYY too funny! :laugh:

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                                First, I've got to admit that I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful. And I find it difficult to contemplate the level of disturbing reasoning that must have driven leckey into creating and maintaining such a list. But this post is more about the presence of d@nish[^] on the list which I think is totally bizarre. He's only got a 100 odd posts and most of them are helpful posts in the programming forums. He's listed in leckey's list as : d@nish: Asked the dumb question of 'can I be first to post in the Lounge?' I found a thread that he started yesterday titled "First Post at Lounge" where he asked the following question : "Just out of curiosity, I would like to get to the very first post at the Lounge. Is it possible?" I am not sure why leckey thinks the question is dumb nor do I understand why she thinks he was asking if he could be the first to post in the Lounge. If I were d@nish, I would treat this as gratuitous character assassination. I think leckey should either remove d@nish from that list or at least add herself to the list (if she really wants to keep it fair).

                                Regards, Nish

                                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                First, I've got to admit that I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful

                                and I would add stupid. It is stupid firstly because one of the key reasons for the success of CP is that the site rewards the behaviour that benefits the site, and ignores / discourages unhelpful behaviour. The self regulating forums are brilliant. By providing ANY recognition of bad behaviour (apart from simply ignoring it or marking particularly bad postings as abuse) will provide incentive to seek this recognition. It is stupid secondly because it achieves nothing. If someone really wants to behave in this way they are not going to be at all worried about a posting on some insignificant blog. It is stupid thirdly because if these folk really do upset Leckey, the worst she can do is to let them know about it. It is no different to training puppies (or in her case cats), rewarding bad behaviour with attention simply encourages more bad behaviour. Finally, it is stupid because she is making judgements of people on the most minimal of information and she may not be right. CP is all about tolerance and providing good advice. I know this may not sound very tolerant, but I hope it is good advice. [edit] and for the intolerant and a more variable quality of advice there is the Soapbox! [/edit]

                                Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

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                                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                  First, I've got to admit that I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful

                                  and I would add stupid. It is stupid firstly because one of the key reasons for the success of CP is that the site rewards the behaviour that benefits the site, and ignores / discourages unhelpful behaviour. The self regulating forums are brilliant. By providing ANY recognition of bad behaviour (apart from simply ignoring it or marking particularly bad postings as abuse) will provide incentive to seek this recognition. It is stupid secondly because it achieves nothing. If someone really wants to behave in this way they are not going to be at all worried about a posting on some insignificant blog. It is stupid thirdly because if these folk really do upset Leckey, the worst she can do is to let them know about it. It is no different to training puppies (or in her case cats), rewarding bad behaviour with attention simply encourages more bad behaviour. Finally, it is stupid because she is making judgements of people on the most minimal of information and she may not be right. CP is all about tolerance and providing good advice. I know this may not sound very tolerant, but I hope it is good advice. [edit] and for the intolerant and a more variable quality of advice there is the Soapbox! [/edit]

                                  Peter "Until the invention of the computer, the machine gun was the device that enabled humans to make the most mistakes in the smallest amount of time."

                                  modified on Thursday, May 8, 2008 9:11 PM

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                                  cp9876 wrote:

                                  and for the intolerant and a more variable quality of advice there is the Soapbox!

                                  which is where this, and Nish's entire rant, should have been posted.

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                                    Trying to make the list I see.

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                                    Trying to make it to the top by my accounts.

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                                      cp9876 wrote:

                                      and for the intolerant and a more variable quality of advice there is the Soapbox!

                                      which is where this, and Nish's entire rant, should have been posted.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      yup, not wrong there.

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                                      • N Nish Nishant

                                        First, I've got to admit that I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful. And I find it difficult to contemplate the level of disturbing reasoning that must have driven leckey into creating and maintaining such a list. But this post is more about the presence of d@nish[^] on the list which I think is totally bizarre. He's only got a 100 odd posts and most of them are helpful posts in the programming forums. He's listed in leckey's list as : d@nish: Asked the dumb question of 'can I be first to post in the Lounge?' I found a thread that he started yesterday titled "First Post at Lounge" where he asked the following question : "Just out of curiosity, I would like to get to the very first post at the Lounge. Is it possible?" I am not sure why leckey thinks the question is dumb nor do I understand why she thinks he was asking if he could be the first to post in the Lounge. If I were d@nish, I would treat this as gratuitous character assassination. I think leckey should either remove d@nish from that list or at least add herself to the list (if she really wants to keep it fair).

                                        Regards, Nish

                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com link

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                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                        I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful.

                                        Then why post about it and be more juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful.

                                        This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE

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                                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                          I find this whole CP-offender list to be extremely juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful.

                                          Then why post about it and be more juvenile, ridiculous and distasteful.

                                          This has been discussed, again and again and again and always we (the denizens of the CP lounge) have come to the conclusion that their method of rating is pure, untouched, unadulterated, genuine, verifiable, refined trash. MIM on TIOBE

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                                          Eytukan
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                                          :-D

                                          OK,. what country just started work for the day ? The ASP.NET forum is flooded with retarded questions. -Christian Graus Best wishes to Rexx[^]

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