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  • J Jerry Hammond

    Why is is that any time we yanks mention the price of gas folks of other nations pop off that we're lucky because we are not getting raped as badly as they are. Hey, rape is rape, and its bad no matter the intensity of the act.

    “If we are all in agreement on the decision - then I propose we postpone further discussion of this matter until our next meeting to give ourselves time to develop disagreement and perhaps gain some understanding of what the decision is all about.”-Alfred P. Sloan

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    Anthony Mushrow
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    That and the cost of games. You all complain about having to pay $40-50 dollars for a video game. Well when they bring them over to europ they use a 1:1 exchange rate. WE pay the equivelant of almost $80 per game. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

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    • O Oakman

      Well, I caught the discrepancy. Congrats. Did you run over to the hardware store and buy a few five-gallon jerry cans?

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      Patrick Etc
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      Oakman wrote:

      Congrats. Did you run over to the hardware store and buy a few five-gallon jerry cans?

      I understand the cheering. Really, I do. Cost me $58 to fill up the last time, and that was $0.15 a gallon ago. Whenever I hear about this though I can't help but think about the gas station themselves, though - most gas stations only make about 1 cent profit per gallon sold, so they'll have to sell an additional 100 gallons for every gallon sold at the lower price to make up what was lost. I suppose your degree of sympathy can vary, and I'm not saying I'm necessarily sympathetic; I just think about it.


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      • P phannon86

        Very true, it's moreover the government doing the raping, not the actual cost. In the UK over half the cost is down to taxes. It sickens me that it costs nearly £50 to fill up my little 1.1 hatchback.

        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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        DaveX86
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        Same here in Canada...Federal Excise, then Provincial Excise on the Federal and the gas, then Federal Sales on the whole thing, then Provincial on the whole thing...taxes on taxes.

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          Oakman wrote:

          Congrats. Did you run over to the hardware store and buy a few five-gallon jerry cans?

          I understand the cheering. Really, I do. Cost me $58 to fill up the last time, and that was $0.15 a gallon ago. Whenever I hear about this though I can't help but think about the gas station themselves, though - most gas stations only make about 1 cent profit per gallon sold, so they'll have to sell an additional 100 gallons for every gallon sold at the lower price to make up what was lost. I suppose your degree of sympathy can vary, and I'm not saying I'm necessarily sympathetic; I just think about it.


          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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          Oakman
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          Patrick S wrote:

          Whenever I hear about this though I can't help but think about the gas station themselves, though - most gas stations only make about 1 cent profit per gallon sold

          My brother-in-law owns three gas stations/minimarts. Most of his costs for selling gas are the depreciation of his pumps (about $40,000 for 3) and the charges made by banks on credit card purchases. There is, of course, some overhead attributable to the pumps as well. I'm not going to suggest that selling gas is his major profit center, but to quote him about how he handles pricing his gas: "Up like a grasshopper, down like a butterfly." In other words he tries to raise his price as fast as his supplier raises his cost, but he's much slower reducing prices when his costs drop. His gross is about $.10 @ gallon. Not nearly the margin he has when you go inside to pay, and buy a Pepsi and a Twinkie.

          Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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          • R realJSOP

            I just paid $2.82/gallon for 89 octane. Someone - somewhere - fat fingered the wrong price into the system at a local Valero station. 92 Octane = $3.83/gallon 89 Octane = $2.82/gallon 87 Octane = $3.69/gallon (my typical purchase)

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Roger Wright
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            Quick... Can you rent a tank truck and go back?

            "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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            • M MatthysDT

              At least you have a decent public transport system. In France right? Don't you? Where I'm from you wouldn't dare use a taxi or a train if you love your life. Remember this when you come to visit in 2010 for the world cup! Never EVER use the public transport system.

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              Pierre Leclercq
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              evilnoodle wrote:

              At least you have a decent public transport system. In France right?

              Yep.

              evilnoodle wrote:

              Never EVER use the public transport system.

              Good to know!

              evilnoodle wrote:

              Remember this when you come to visit in 2010 for the world cup!

              Unfortunately, I am busy paying my French taxes, I do not think I can afford a ticket for 2010. But I am sure it would have been worth it! :)

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              • R realJSOP

                I just paid $2.82/gallon for 89 octane. Someone - somewhere - fat fingered the wrong price into the system at a local Valero station. 92 Octane = $3.83/gallon 89 Octane = $2.82/gallon 87 Octane = $3.69/gallon (my typical purchase)

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                bwhittington
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                Just to let you know. In some places, maybe your cheap gas may not have been as cheap as you thought. If you used a debit or credit card to pay for your purchase, the company could correct the pumps mistake later and take out the difference on your card. If you happened to pay in cash then your in luck and they have no way to get the loss back. I think its a crock that they can charge you later for their mistake but I read about in the paper and the company has the right to do it.

                Brett A. Whittington Application Developer

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                • D DaveX86

                  Same here in Canada...Federal Excise, then Provincial Excise on the Federal and the gas, then Federal Sales on the whole thing, then Provincial on the whole thing...taxes on taxes.

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                  Pierre Leclercq
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                  David Lockwood wrote:

                  taxes on taxes.

                  Damned, I thought taxes on taxes were anti-constitutionnal? Asking someone to pay a tax on some money he/she does not have does not seem right.

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                    David Lockwood wrote:

                    taxes on taxes.

                    Damned, I thought taxes on taxes were anti-constitutionnal? Asking someone to pay a tax on some money he/she does not have does not seem right.

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                    I know...they have no shame....

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                    • D David Crow

                      Two summers ago, diesel was almost a dollar cheaper than gasoline. I had to keep an extra eye on my tractor for fear of someone taking it!

                      "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                      "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                      Johann van der Smut
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                      So, Dave, since you don't need that extra eye now, can I have it? ;P I noticed my tawa is missing today. :sigh:

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                      • J Jerry Hammond

                        Why is is that any time we yanks mention the price of gas folks of other nations pop off that we're lucky because we are not getting raped as badly as they are. Hey, rape is rape, and its bad no matter the intensity of the act.

                        “If we are all in agreement on the decision - then I propose we postpone further discussion of this matter until our next meeting to give ourselves time to develop disagreement and perhaps gain some understanding of what the decision is all about.”-Alfred P. Sloan

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                        Member 96
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                        Well, Canadians have a valid reason to be pissed since we are the single largest supplier of oil and gas to the U.S. yet we pay close to European prices.


                        "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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                        • J Johann van der Smut

                          So, Dave, since you don't need that extra eye now, can I have it? ;P I noticed my tawa is missing today. :sigh:

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                          David Crow
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                          Nazgûl wrote:

                          So, Dave, since you don't need that extra eye now, can I have it?

                          While the tractor is in the shop being repaired, the eye has been reassigned to watching the cows. They got out last week. A few days ago, they got into the barn and ate a whole bag of feed. I fully expected to go out and find a dead cow (or two)!

                          "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                          "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                          • O Oakman

                            Patrick S wrote:

                            Whenever I hear about this though I can't help but think about the gas station themselves, though - most gas stations only make about 1 cent profit per gallon sold

                            My brother-in-law owns three gas stations/minimarts. Most of his costs for selling gas are the depreciation of his pumps (about $40,000 for 3) and the charges made by banks on credit card purchases. There is, of course, some overhead attributable to the pumps as well. I'm not going to suggest that selling gas is his major profit center, but to quote him about how he handles pricing his gas: "Up like a grasshopper, down like a butterfly." In other words he tries to raise his price as fast as his supplier raises his cost, but he's much slower reducing prices when his costs drop. His gross is about $.10 @ gallon. Not nearly the margin he has when you go inside to pay, and buy a Pepsi and a Twinkie.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                            Patrick Etc
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                            Oakman wrote:

                            In other words he tries to raise his price as fast as his supplier raises his cost, but he's much slower reducing prices when his costs drop. His gross is about $.10 @ gallon.

                            Makes perfect sense. By the time they've lowered prices to match their wholesale cost, the price has gone right back up again.

                            Oakman wrote:

                            His gross is about $.10 @ gallon. Not nearly the margin he has when you go inside to pay, and buy a Pepsi and a Twinkie.

                            Yep. From what I've heard, many stations wouldn't stay afloat if they only sold gas. It's a big reason why so many of them build those fancy mini-marts; make alot more money that way.


                            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                            • R realJSOP

                              I just paid $2.82/gallon for 89 octane. Someone - somewhere - fat fingered the wrong price into the system at a local Valero station. 92 Octane = $3.83/gallon 89 Octane = $2.82/gallon 87 Octane = $3.69/gallon (my typical purchase)

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                              -----
                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              An honest person would have pointed the mistake out to the attendant.

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                              • B bwhittington

                                Just to let you know. In some places, maybe your cheap gas may not have been as cheap as you thought. If you used a debit or credit card to pay for your purchase, the company could correct the pumps mistake later and take out the difference on your card. If you happened to pay in cash then your in luck and they have no way to get the loss back. I think its a crock that they can charge you later for their mistake but I read about in the paper and the company has the right to do it.

                                Brett A. Whittington Application Developer

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                                realJSOP
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                                They can't make an unauthorized charge against an account, and I'll spend exorbitant amounts of money to fight them, just on principal.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                                  An honest person would have pointed the mistake out to the attendant.

                                  Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                  Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  Oh for f*ck's sake. Take your "honest person" horseshit and shove it up your ass.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Oh for f*ck's sake. Take your "honest person" horseshit and shove it up your ass.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                                    Why would I shove horse* up my a*?

                                    Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                                    Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                                    • M Member 96

                                      Well, Canadians have a valid reason to be pissed since we are the single largest supplier of oil and gas to the U.S. yet we pay close to European prices.


                                      "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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                                      Pierre Leclercq
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                                      Arf! :) So this means a canadian living near the frontier could buy cheaper canadian oil just by crossing the border!

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                                      • P Pierre Leclercq

                                        Arf! :) So this means a canadian living near the frontier could buy cheaper canadian oil just by crossing the border!

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                                        Member 96
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                                        Yup, it's a time honored tradition for those fairly close to the border, a weekend shopping trip, gas up etc. At least it was until the new tighter border restrictions went into affect, now it's just not worth the hassle to cross the border for anything short of life saving surgery.


                                        "The great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do." - Walter Bagehot

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                                        • R realJSOP

                                          I just paid $2.82/gallon for 89 octane. Someone - somewhere - fat fingered the wrong price into the system at a local Valero station. 92 Octane = $3.83/gallon 89 Octane = $2.82/gallon 87 Octane = $3.69/gallon (my typical purchase)

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                          -----
                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                          87 Octane = $3.69/gallon (my typical purchase)

                                          3.89 saturday.

                                          ------------------ John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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