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  • V Vikram A Punathambekar

    With all due respect, I do NOT find that funny.

    Cheers, Vikram.


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    Thunderbox666
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    Yeah sorry, it was a cheap joke :( [EDIT]It wasnt me who down voted you either[/EDIT]


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    • C Christian Graus

      So, 10 sick days. Any person in Australia gets 4 weeks annual leave and 2 weeks sick. Even a janitor.

      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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      Christian Graus wrote:

      So, 10 sick days. Any person in Australia gets 4 weeks annual leave and 2 weeks sick. Even a janitor.

      You obviosly haven't had anything to do with any Work Choice contracts have you. I only have 5 sick days a year and she wonders why I go out of my way to take each and every one of the 5.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      • C Christian Graus

        We're screaming for good devs where I live.

        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        We're screaming for good devs where I live.

        What about good drunks?

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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        • L Lost User

          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

          That's 1.5 months, dude! [OMG] Any openings in Aussieland? [Big Grin]

          While we get two weeks sick leave it cant really be used as holidays. Most employers will require a doctors certificate if you have a friday, monday or more than one day off sick. If an employee used all 10 days with a day here and a day there it wouldnt look good.

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          Josh Gray wrote:

          If an employee used all 10 days with a day here and a day there it wouldnt look good.

          Just need to get Doctor's certificates each timee, nothing they can do.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          • C Christian Graus

            We're screaming for good devs where I live.

            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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            Sandeep Datta
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            Can you provide some references (to companies seeking devs)?

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            • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

              WOW :omg: I bet you're tempted to cash it all in! Your boss would probably have a cardiac arrest if you do! :laugh:

              "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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              Andy_L_J
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              My Boss will lend me that amount again if I want to cash in my leave and buy a house in the area. He really wants to keep me around. :-\ However, if there came a time when it looked like the Company was failing, I would just quit and cash that baby in! :-D

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                My Boss will lend me that amount again if I want to cash in my leave and buy a house in the area. He really wants to keep me around. :-\ However, if there came a time when it looked like the Company was failing, I would just quit and cash that baby in! :-D

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                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                Andy_L_J wrote:

                He really wants to keep me around.

                Let the arm twisting begin! :D

                "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  I think the 3 week vacation is a standard paid vacation and the 10 days extra that's mentioned is probably for casual short** leaves you can take in case of illness or some unexpected errands you may have to run. So that's basically 5 weeks of paid leave. That's pretty good :-) ** short as in you cannot just take 10 days in succession.

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  I think the 3 week vacation is a standard paid vacation and the 10 days extra that's mentioned is probably for casual short** leaves ...

                  Sorry mate, not in USA. There is no such thing as short time leaves. It means paid holidays like New Year, Memorial, July 4th .... I have come across only handful that give sabbatical, paternity leave and some extra paid day offs, let alone short term leave. :((

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                  • S Super Lloyd

                    This morning I recieved an exciting job offer from an american company! I wonder how they found my profile? Anyway due to my sickness / allergy to pollution I can't take on the opportunity :sigh: (it's either in Boston or LA!!) (In fact I'm strill trying to find a place I could live well and do some programming job at the same time.. sigh... :sigh: ) Anyway, as I was perusing through the offer I came to read that: "3 weeks vacation and 10 paid holidays" I wonder what that means '10 paid holliday' is 10 extra days on top of the 3 weeks? or are the vacation week unpaid and you have only 10 day paid? I mean can you explain what that means, I'm curious....

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                    3 weeks vacation are good for the us, it is usually 2. 10 paid holidays are standard, but many companies offer 11 or 12 (that comes on top of the vacations). And you should also have sick days (extra days to be taken when you are sick, not really vacation). So if you are not interested in this offer, why don't you share it with your little codeprojects buddies?

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                    • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                      Andy_L_J wrote:

                      He really wants to keep me around.

                      Let the arm twisting begin! :D

                      "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                      Andy_L_J
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                      I started at this company as a labourer working shift work and lifting up to 15T per shift. :doh: (Actually took the job to save the money to get married) I have worked my way into my present position and now have a budget of around 20M per year and eighty staff and I get to travel (mainly to Europe and China). So it is a pretty sweet wicket. Although there have been many rounds of serious negotiation when it comes to raises, I have always acheived my goal in the end. However, I was in my late twenties when I changed career, and therefore had very clear ideas as to what I wanted to acheive. So, it seems that I already have the "mans" respect. The main thing for me is to not get too comfortable. Complacency leads to unemployment. :-D

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                      • P Pierre Leclercq

                        3 weeks vacation are good for the us, it is usually 2. 10 paid holidays are standard, but many companies offer 11 or 12 (that comes on top of the vacations). And you should also have sick days (extra days to be taken when you are sick, not really vacation). So if you are not interested in this offer, why don't you share it with your little codeprojects buddies?

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                        if my understanding is right this 10 holliday are not day that the employee could decide to take whenever he wants but merely public holliday (at given date), is it?

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                        • S Super Lloyd

                          if my understanding is right this 10 holliday are not day that the employee could decide to take whenever he wants but merely public holliday (at given date), is it?

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                          Correct. The US usage of holiday is only Christmas/new years/etc. We never use it to refer to a week on the beach.

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                          • S Super Lloyd

                            if my understanding is right this 10 holliday are not day that the employee could decide to take whenever he wants but merely public holliday (at given date), is it?

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                            Pierre Leclercq
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                            yep! In some countries that would seem awkward, as people would just assume they do not work on holidays. But in the US, this is part of the package a company offers.

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                            • P Pierre Leclercq

                              yep! In some countries that would seem awkward, as people would just assume they do not work on holidays. But in the US, this is part of the package a company offers.

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                              Pierre Leclercq wrote:

                              In some countries that would seem awkward

                              Indeed so!!

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                So electing dirty commies has its upside, I see. ;P Of course, it's not like the other states are immune. :sigh:

                                Cheers, Vikram.


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                                Nish Nishant
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                                Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                Of course, it's not like the other states are immune.

                                Yeah, look at what's happening in Bombay - oops Mumbai. :sigh:

                                Regards, Nish


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                                • S Super Lloyd

                                  This morning I recieved an exciting job offer from an american company! I wonder how they found my profile? Anyway due to my sickness / allergy to pollution I can't take on the opportunity :sigh: (it's either in Boston or LA!!) (In fact I'm strill trying to find a place I could live well and do some programming job at the same time.. sigh... :sigh: ) Anyway, as I was perusing through the offer I came to read that: "3 weeks vacation and 10 paid holidays" I wonder what that means '10 paid holliday' is 10 extra days on top of the 3 weeks? or are the vacation week unpaid and you have only 10 day paid? I mean can you explain what that means, I'm curious....

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                                  • S Super Lloyd

                                    This morning I recieved an exciting job offer from an american company! I wonder how they found my profile? Anyway due to my sickness / allergy to pollution I can't take on the opportunity :sigh: (it's either in Boston or LA!!) (In fact I'm strill trying to find a place I could live well and do some programming job at the same time.. sigh... :sigh: ) Anyway, as I was perusing through the offer I came to read that: "3 weeks vacation and 10 paid holidays" I wonder what that means '10 paid holliday' is 10 extra days on top of the 3 weeks? or are the vacation week unpaid and you have only 10 day paid? I mean can you explain what that means, I'm curious....

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                                    The 10 paid holidays are days like Christmas, New Year's, Thanksgiving (the third Thursday in November), the day after Easter, and so on. Different companies have different sets of days, but ten paid holidays is pretty standard. The paid holidays are fixed (you can't change the date for the time off). The 3 weeks of vacation are paid time off that you choose the dates. Your employer may require that your supervisor approve the dates you select, so that they have appropriate coverage if you have critical responsibilities.

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                                    • S Super Lloyd

                                      This morning I recieved an exciting job offer from an american company! I wonder how they found my profile? Anyway due to my sickness / allergy to pollution I can't take on the opportunity :sigh: (it's either in Boston or LA!!) (In fact I'm strill trying to find a place I could live well and do some programming job at the same time.. sigh... :sigh: ) Anyway, as I was perusing through the offer I came to read that: "3 weeks vacation and 10 paid holidays" I wonder what that means '10 paid holliday' is 10 extra days on top of the 3 weeks? or are the vacation week unpaid and you have only 10 day paid? I mean can you explain what that means, I'm curious....

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                                      Most companies that I've seen have 9 or 10 holidays which are designated by the company (e.g. Christmas Day, New Year's Day, Memorial Day, Independence Day, Thanksgiving, ...) and some have 1-2 "floating holidays" which are essentially free days off that you have to use within the year (to cover themselves for non-majority religious holidays). In addition to (i.e. separate from) the holidays, they offer vacation (or "paid time off") days which vary from 2-3 weeks, though most increase that over time up to around 4 weeks if you stay with the company a long time. You should also clarify how they manage their "sick days". My current employer groups all time off from one pool (both sick and vacation). Another employer used separate pools for sick and vacation time. And another offered only 2 weeks vacation (for the first couple of years), but they offered "unlimited" sick days (though you are expected to only use them when actually sick and they might question it if you used more than the average).

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