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Colin, i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government. But, i fear for the productivity loss such a move might cause. With potentially thousands of strategic workers now focusing on identifying potential terrorist threats, there is the danger of ignoring the greater need our country has for strategicly placed snitches to snoop out software pirates and music traders. Fingering your boss as a dirty terrorist operative is all well and good, but not if it prevents you from notifying authorities of the person in the next cube sharing his MP3s with the rest of the office. Patriotic groups such as Microsoft and the RIAA have put much time and effort into cultivating a network of quality stoolies; what a waste to throw that all away on such a trivial activity. We need to get our priorities straightened out. :suss:
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
To be honest, I think we all realise the US is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Just having "HomeLand security" shows that Osama won some ground, but without it the US is more vulnerable. Who knows maybe there will be a spin-off from all this security industry being created. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
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Colin, i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government. But, i fear for the productivity loss such a move might cause. With potentially thousands of strategic workers now focusing on identifying potential terrorist threats, there is the danger of ignoring the greater need our country has for strategicly placed snitches to snoop out software pirates and music traders. Fingering your boss as a dirty terrorist operative is all well and good, but not if it prevents you from notifying authorities of the person in the next cube sharing his MP3s with the rest of the office. Patriotic groups such as Microsoft and the RIAA have put much time and effort into cultivating a network of quality stoolies; what a waste to throw that all away on such a trivial activity. We need to get our priorities straightened out. :suss:
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
People who share mp3s are terrorists. By denying the record companies.. err.. artists the money they deserve, they undermine the very foundations of capitlism and democracy and even life as we know it. Then there was that young hacker in Finland trying to watch DVDs on his Linux box. If we allow these things to happen, we might as well dye our flags red and call each other comrade. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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I've been tossing up how and if to include voting on messages. I'm wishing I had it now so I could click the 'troll' box :P cheers, Chris Maunder
Maybe we need :sarcasm: and :troll: emoticons? "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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Colin, i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government. But, i fear for the productivity loss such a move might cause. With potentially thousands of strategic workers now focusing on identifying potential terrorist threats, there is the danger of ignoring the greater need our country has for strategicly placed snitches to snoop out software pirates and music traders. Fingering your boss as a dirty terrorist operative is all well and good, but not if it prevents you from notifying authorities of the person in the next cube sharing his MP3s with the rest of the office. Patriotic groups such as Microsoft and the RIAA have put much time and effort into cultivating a network of quality stoolies; what a waste to throw that all away on such a trivial activity. We need to get our priorities straightened out. :suss:
Shog9 --
Maybe Java is kind of like God, it "works in mysterious ways". It seems like your apps are running slowly, because in the backgroud Java is solving world hunger, or finding the cure to cancer. - Ryan Johnston, Don't die java!
Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Pathetic. It's their goal to enslave you, though if you live in the PRC you might not notice that - it's already been accomplished there. :) Yeah, I read the irony in your post, but I couldn't help myself... :-D "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
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People who share mp3s are terrorists. By denying the record companies.. err.. artists the money they deserve, they undermine the very foundations of capitlism and democracy and even life as we know it. Then there was that young hacker in Finland trying to watch DVDs on his Linux box. If we allow these things to happen, we might as well dye our flags red and call each other comrade. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
Don't you think that CP is even a bit evil, because it allows knowledge to be shared outside of the US of A ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
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Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Pathetic. It's their goal to enslave you, though if you live in the PRC you might not notice that - it's already been accomplished there. :) Yeah, I read the irony in your post, but I couldn't help myself... :-D "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."
Roger Wright wrote: Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Don't you think he meant to say "horrible" in place of honorable ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
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Don't you think that CP is even a bit evil, because it allows knowledge to be shared outside of the US of A ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
Arrgh! No! Can't have those evil comunist Yurop people finding out our secrets! :-D -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Don't you think that CP is even a bit evil, because it allows knowledge to be shared outside of the US of A ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing. Fortunately, places like China and Afganistan have government firewalls to keep the knowledge out. In the western world, several media outlets give different versions of the story. We're informed, but too confused to act. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing. Fortunately, places like China and Afganistan have government firewalls to keep the knowledge out. In the western world, several media outlets give different versions of the story. We're informed, but too confused to act. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
Actually if the government would start filtering out my spam, I think it would be value for the taxes I've been paying. As long as decent publications like the National Enquirer exist we'll be Ok, At least they publish news that the other "names" are too scared to release. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
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People who share mp3s are terrorists. By denying the record companies.. err.. artists the money they deserve, they undermine the very foundations of capitlism and democracy and even life as we know it. Then there was that young hacker in Finland trying to watch DVDs on his Linux box. If we allow these things to happen, we might as well dye our flags red and call each other comrade. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
wait just a minute. is sharing a mp3 an act of terrorism. NO Hacking the dvd-encryption for watching on a linux-box. NO Maybee illegal but not terrorism. Record companies live on the open market and if they cant adjust their buissnies model to the new reality of today then they are bound to go under. I rather bye my music direct from the artist and promote his/her work than from some shady record company whos pure interest are to make as much money out of me and the artist as possible. /Stefan
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wait just a minute. is sharing a mp3 an act of terrorism. NO Hacking the dvd-encryption for watching on a linux-box. NO Maybee illegal but not terrorism. Record companies live on the open market and if they cant adjust their buissnies model to the new reality of today then they are bound to go under. I rather bye my music direct from the artist and promote his/her work than from some shady record company whos pure interest are to make as much money out of me and the artist as possible. /Stefan
Technically neither of those are illegal either. (sharing mp3s isn't a problem if the music isn't copyrighted, and the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Roger Wright wrote: Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Don't you think he meant to say "horrible" in place of honorable ? Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
or maybe horrible faith in the absolute intent of my government :~ -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Actually if the government would start filtering out my spam, I think it would be value for the taxes I've been paying. As long as decent publications like the National Enquirer exist we'll be Ok, At least they publish news that the other "names" are too scared to release. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
Colin Davies wrote: As long as decent publications like the National Enquirer exist we'll be Ok Without them, I wouldn't even know about Elvis' alien lovechild! "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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Technically neither of those are illegal either. (sharing mp3s isn't a problem if the music isn't copyrighted, and the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
benjymous wrote: the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious Not for the people who are taken to court under it. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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Arrgh! No! Can't have those evil comunist Yurop people finding out our secrets! :-D -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
We should send all Yuropians to the penguin land ASAP !! Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
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wait just a minute. is sharing a mp3 an act of terrorism. NO Hacking the dvd-encryption for watching on a linux-box. NO Maybee illegal but not terrorism. Record companies live on the open market and if they cant adjust their buissnies model to the new reality of today then they are bound to go under. I rather bye my music direct from the artist and promote his/her work than from some shady record company whos pure interest are to make as much money out of me and the artist as possible. /Stefan
I was being sarcastic. I agree about record companies. I also don't have much respect for artists who call their music their 'product'. It makes me think of infomercials and plastic hair. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
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benjymous wrote: the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious Not for the people who are taken to court under it. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
In the UK, reverse engineering for your own private use is perfectly legal (though you can't use that knowledge to then go on and distribute modified / derivative works) In other words, if a company distributes demo software that can be simply hacked into the full version, then that's not breaking any laws. Of course distributing the said hack, or telling other people how to do it would be illegal. -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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I was being sarcastic. I agree about record companies. I also don't have much respect for artists who call their music their 'product'. It makes me think of infomercials and plastic hair. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge
no - don't say the I word! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!
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Clickety [Paul] CNN: Clickety [Paul] BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] :cool: What bell does this ring? I'm grinning my a** off - the pilot project (1 Million in 4 big cities or something) would employ a higher percentage of "informal employees" than east germany ever had...
:suss:Don't suspect a friend - report him! [sighist]
peterchen wrote: BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] - If your family member has made comments such as "Maybe that Marx character was right" or "God bless the French", press 2 "God bless the French" LMAO! Now if that is not terrorist sympathising then I do not know what is! I thought Citizen Corps was bad, but this TIPS part of it is just abominimal. I can see gangs of youths roaming the street, burning down fertilizer bags and arresting anyone who wears a red t-shirt or does not drive a pickup truck with a gun rack. p.s. Thank you for being so considerate of my needs peterchen. Not like those other buggers who taunt me with fake [^] links or
target="_paul"code. ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match! -
Shog9 wrote: this is rather disturbing... What an utterly liberal comment !!! Are you harboring terrorists , because it's only the guilty who need to fear, as the US government would never use this information for anything other than Homeland security. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus
That even makes me laugh. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture