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  • W Walkerboh

    wait just a minute. is sharing a mp3 an act of terrorism. NO Hacking the dvd-encryption for watching on a linux-box. NO Maybee illegal but not terrorism. Record companies live on the open market and if they cant adjust their buissnies model to the new reality of today then they are bound to go under. I rather bye my music direct from the artist and promote his/her work than from some shady record company whos pure interest are to make as much money out of me and the artist as possible. /Stefan

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    benjymous
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    Technically neither of those are illegal either. (sharing mp3s isn't a problem if the music isn't copyrighted, and the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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      Roger Wright wrote: Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Don't you think he meant to say "horrible" in place of honorable ? Regardz Colin J Davies

      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

      I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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      benjymous
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      or maybe horrible faith in the absolute intent of my government :~ -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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        Actually if the government would start filtering out my spam, I think it would be value for the taxes I've been paying. As long as decent publications like the National Enquirer exist we'll be Ok, At least they publish news that the other "names" are too scared to release. Regardz Colin J Davies

        Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

        I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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        Daniel Ferguson
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        Colin Davies wrote: As long as decent publications like the National Enquirer exist we'll be Ok Without them, I wouldn't even know about Elvis' alien lovechild! "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge

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          Technically neither of those are illegal either. (sharing mp3s isn't a problem if the music isn't copyrighted, and the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious) -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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          Daniel Ferguson
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          benjymous wrote: the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious Not for the people who are taken to court under it. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge

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            Arrgh! No! Can't have those evil comunist Yurop people finding out our secrets! :-D -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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            We should send all Yuropians to the penguin land ASAP !! Regardz Colin J Davies

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            I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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            • W Walkerboh

              wait just a minute. is sharing a mp3 an act of terrorism. NO Hacking the dvd-encryption for watching on a linux-box. NO Maybee illegal but not terrorism. Record companies live on the open market and if they cant adjust their buissnies model to the new reality of today then they are bound to go under. I rather bye my music direct from the artist and promote his/her work than from some shady record company whos pure interest are to make as much money out of me and the artist as possible. /Stefan

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              Daniel Ferguson
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              I was being sarcastic. I agree about record companies. I also don't have much respect for artists who call their music their 'product'. It makes me think of infomercials and plastic hair. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge

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                benjymous wrote: the legality of the DMCA is somewhat dubious Not for the people who are taken to court under it. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge

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                benjymous
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                In the UK, reverse engineering for your own private use is perfectly legal (though you can't use that knowledge to then go on and distribute modified / derivative works) In other words, if a company distributes demo software that can be simply hacked into the full version, then that's not breaking any laws. Of course distributing the said hack, or telling other people how to do it would be illegal. -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                  I was being sarcastic. I agree about record companies. I also don't have much respect for artists who call their music their 'product'. It makes me think of infomercials and plastic hair. "Religion is based on faith, and faith is immune to logic. Therefore, it's impossible to have a logical conversation about religion." -Christopher Duncan, CP Lounge

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                  benjymous
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                  no - don't say the I word! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                  • P peterchen

                    Clickety [Paul] CNN: Clickety [Paul] BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] :cool: What bell does this ring? I'm grinning my a** off - the pilot project (1 Million in 4 big cities or something) would employ a higher percentage of "informal employees" than east germany ever had...


                    :suss:Don't suspect a friend - report him!   [sighist]

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                    Paul Watson
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                    peterchen wrote: BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] - If your family member has made comments such as "Maybe that Marx character was right" or "God bless the French", press 2 "God bless the French" LMAO! Now if that is not terrorist sympathising then I do not know what is! I thought Citizen Corps was bad, but this TIPS part of it is just abominimal. I can see gangs of youths roaming the street, burning down fertilizer bags and arresting anyone who wears a red t-shirt or does not drive a pickup truck with a gun rack. p.s. Thank you for being so considerate of my needs peterchen. Not like those other buggers who taunt me with fake [^] links or target="_paul" code. ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!

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                      Shog9 wrote: this is rather disturbing... What an utterly liberal comment !!! Are you harboring terrorists , because it's only the guilty who need to fear, as the US government would never use this information for anything other than Homeland security. Regardz Colin J Davies

                      Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                      I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                      Tim Smith
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                      That even makes me laugh. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I've been tossing up how and if to include voting on messages. I'm wishing I had it now so I could click the 'troll' box :P cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Trollslayer at work
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                        Did someone say 'troll' ?:laugh: Would you like to meet my teddybear ?

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                          Clickety [Paul] CNN: Clickety [Paul] BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] :cool: What bell does this ring? I'm grinning my a** off - the pilot project (1 Million in 4 big cities or something) would employ a higher percentage of "informal employees" than east germany ever had...


                          :suss:Don't suspect a friend - report him!   [sighist]

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                          Trollslayer at work
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                          Hmmmm. Call me suspicious but the name 'McCarthy' keeps surfacing...... X| Elaine :rose: Would you like to meet my teddybear ?

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                            Clickety [Paul] CNN: Clickety [Paul] BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] :cool: What bell does this ring? I'm grinning my a** off - the pilot project (1 Million in 4 big cities or something) would employ a higher percentage of "informal employees" than east germany ever had...


                            :suss:Don't suspect a friend - report him!   [sighist]

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                            Lost User
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                            Although they [the US government] is in a no win situation trying to directly prevent further terrorist acts against US interests, this shows exactly how far out of touch with reality our politicians really are.

                            Mike Mullikin - I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill

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                              Did someone say 'troll' ?:laugh: Would you like to meet my teddybear ?

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                              peterchen
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                              My attrollage has been buttrolled. I will need five cat rolls to clean this up again. ;P


                              You don't need to sleep to see a nightmare  Anne Clark   [sighist]

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                              • C ColinDavies

                                Roger Wright wrote: Shog9 wrote: i have absolute faith in the honorable intent of my government Don't you think he meant to say "horrible" in place of honorable ? Regardz Colin J Davies

                                Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                                Roger Wright
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                                Yes, I do suspect that it was simply a typo.:-D "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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                                  Shog9 wrote: this is rather disturbing... What an utterly liberal comment !!! Are you harboring terrorists , because it's only the guilty who need to fear, as the US government would never use this information for anything other than Homeland security. Regardz Colin J Davies

                                  Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin

                                  I am sick of fighting with Martin, I think I will ignore his posts from here on in, and spend the time working on articles instead. Christian Graus

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                                  KaRl
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                                  Doesn't it also open the door to false denunciations, or even blackmail ? ("You don't want to be considered as a terrorist ? Give me 1000 $") Do you judge the McCarthy area/McCarthyism as positive ? (no, no, its not a flame !) We do not inherit the Earth from our ancestors. We borrow it from our children. Antoine de Saint Exupéry (1900-1944)

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                                    peterchen wrote: BBSpot: Clickety [Paul] - If your family member has made comments such as "Maybe that Marx character was right" or "God bless the French", press 2 "God bless the French" LMAO! Now if that is not terrorist sympathising then I do not know what is! I thought Citizen Corps was bad, but this TIPS part of it is just abominimal. I can see gangs of youths roaming the street, burning down fertilizer bags and arresting anyone who wears a red t-shirt or does not drive a pickup truck with a gun rack. p.s. Thank you for being so considerate of my needs peterchen. Not like those other buggers who taunt me with fake [^] links or target="_paul" code. ;) regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!

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                                    Roger Wright
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                                    Paul Watson wrote: burning down fertilizer bags and arresting anyone who wears a red t-shirt or does not drive a pickup truck with a gun rack. Hmmmm. I've been toying with the idea of getting one of those Easy Rider rifle racks for my truck. While the image of my AK-47 hanging there in the back window is esthetically pleasing (and very likely to deter tailgaters), I'm worried about the possibility of theft when I actually park the truck. I wonder if keeping a 50 lb sack of Ammonium Nitrate fertilizer in the bed of the pickup would repel thieves? "Knock, knock." "Who's there?" "Recursion." "Recursion who?" "Knock, knock..."

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