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  • R Raj Lal

    Recently we had a great discussion on why would you read a book !, if you missed that here[^] is the link This also begs another important question: Why would you hate a book ! Here are some of my reasons 1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece. 10. If the book writing is complex or the author is prejudice So what's your reason ?

    Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


    Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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    Quartz. wrote:

    1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece.

    Hmm...Sounds like a book I read recently....MCPD self paced training kit...Complete waste of trees.

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    • R Raj Lal

      Recently we had a great discussion on why would you read a book !, if you missed that here[^] is the link This also begs another important question: Why would you hate a book ! Here are some of my reasons 1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece. 10. If the book writing is complex or the author is prejudice So what's your reason ?

      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


      Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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      Rajesh R Subramanian
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      I'll put up a few points: 1. I cannot do an instant search. 2. Lack of portability - some books are just too heavy to carry around all the time. 3. It is losable! An ebook or a bookmark is not (unless you're dumb enough) 4. Lack of Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V - If there's a piece of interesting code that you want to try, you cannot copy and paste (obviously I'm expecting too much :-D)

      Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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      • R Raj Lal

        Recently we had a great discussion on why would you read a book !, if you missed that here[^] is the link This also begs another important question: Why would you hate a book ! Here are some of my reasons 1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece. 10. If the book writing is complex or the author is prejudice So what's your reason ?

        Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


        Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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        The plot is trite and derivative, the characters are flat and one-dimensional, and the author was obviously trying to cash in on a trend. Oh wait, did you mean fiction?

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        • P phannon86

          They can be extremely expensive and/or overpriced. Usually the ones that are on university reading lists, so they charge poor students through the nose for them because lecturers claims they are "required". I never used a single book during my time, and laughed at people who actually paid around £50 per book, sometimes more.

          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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          I brought 2 books at uni. 1) Something about Databases. Brought for £45 3 days before the exam because I had neglected to show up to several of the lectures. Read cover to cover. aced the exam, took it back and swapped it for... 2) C++ Complete reference. Still use to this day when I occasionally dip back into C++.

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          • R Rajesh R Subramanian

            I'll put up a few points: 1. I cannot do an instant search. 2. Lack of portability - some books are just too heavy to carry around all the time. 3. It is losable! An ebook or a bookmark is not (unless you're dumb enough) 4. Lack of Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V - If there's a piece of interesting code that you want to try, you cannot copy and paste (obviously I'm expecting too much :-D)

            Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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            Actually, there seems to be trend recently (particularly among technical books) to include an electronic copy with the book. Pro C# 2008 came with a link to download a PDF. Best of both worlds then.

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              I'll put up a few points: 1. I cannot do an instant search. 2. Lack of portability - some books are just too heavy to carry around all the time. 3. It is losable! An ebook or a bookmark is not (unless you're dumb enough) 4. Lack of Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V - If there's a piece of interesting code that you want to try, you cannot copy and paste (obviously I'm expecting too much :-D)

              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

              1. I cannot do an instant search.

              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

              4. Lack of Ctrl+C & Ctrl+V - If there's a piece of interesting code that you want to try, you cannot copy and paste (obviously I'm expecting too much [Big Grin] )

              You beat me to it :)

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                The plot is trite and derivative, the characters are flat and one-dimensional, and the author was obviously trying to cash in on a trend. Oh wait, did you mean fiction?

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                Christian Graus
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                Who would bother reading fiction ? I was surprised to see that most people assume he means IT books tho.

                Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  Im pretty sure john Lennon was not a fan of "Catcher in the Rye"

                  Paul

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                  Raj Lal
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                  nonetheless "Catcher in the Rye" is awesome :)

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                  • C Christian Graus

                    Who would bother reading fiction ? I was surprised to see that most people assume he means IT books tho.

                    Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                    Christian Graus wrote:

                    Who would bother reading fiction ?

                    Not me, at least not lately. I have never really read IT books at least in the sense that you typically read a work of fiction...cove to cover. I use the code examples in the book to teach me and only read the text to show me what I didn't understand about the code. If a book is weak on code sample, I don't buy it.

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                    • C Christian Graus

                      Who would bother reading fiction ? I was surprised to see that most people assume he means IT books tho.

                      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                      Christian Graus wrote:

                      Who would bother reading fiction ?

                      Me :-O. I read science fiction; mostly space opera and military. I don't read to be enlightened or to broaden my horizons, I read for entertainment and relaxation. The more escapist the drivel, the better. I just finished reading Von Neumann's War[^] by John Ringo and Travis Taylor. It's been a very long time since I've purchased a technical book. I think the last one was the CSS Pocket Reference by Eric Meyer from O'Reilly. Except for basic references, most of them seem to be regurgitation of material more conveniently available online (like at CP).

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • P phannon86

                        They can be extremely expensive and/or overpriced. Usually the ones that are on university reading lists, so they charge poor students through the nose for them because lecturers claims they are "required". I never used a single book during my time, and laughed at people who actually paid around £50 per book, sometimes more.

                        He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                        Phannon wrote:

                        extremely expensive and/or overpriced.

                        I agree , If you want to buy a book directly from barnes and noble or borders book store it comes with an "ouch"

                        Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                        Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          Recently we had a great discussion on why would you read a book !, if you missed that here[^] is the link This also begs another important question: Why would you hate a book ! Here are some of my reasons 1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece. 10. If the book writing is complex or the author is prejudice So what's your reason ?

                          Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                          Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                          If the pages were glued together. Or it was in Urdu, or Hindi, or Sanskrit, or German, or Russian, or it was Mein Kampf, or that really god-awfull book I read a few months back whose name, thankfully, entirly fails to lodge with any degree of permenancy in my brain.

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                          • G Gary Wheeler

                            Christian Graus wrote:

                            Who would bother reading fiction ?

                            Me :-O. I read science fiction; mostly space opera and military. I don't read to be enlightened or to broaden my horizons, I read for entertainment and relaxation. The more escapist the drivel, the better. I just finished reading Von Neumann's War[^] by John Ringo and Travis Taylor. It's been a very long time since I've purchased a technical book. I think the last one was the CSS Pocket Reference by Eric Meyer from O'Reilly. Except for basic references, most of them seem to be regurgitation of material more conveniently available online (like at CP).

                            Software Zen: delete this;

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                            I read a lot of books for relaxation, but I love history, neurology, and heavy metal books :-)

                            Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              Who would bother reading fiction ? I was surprised to see that most people assume he means IT books tho.

                              Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              Who would bother reading fiction ?

                              Da Vinci Code was my last :)

                              Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                              Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                              • R Raj Lal

                                Phannon wrote:

                                extremely expensive and/or overpriced.

                                I agree , If you want to buy a book directly from barnes and noble or borders book store it comes with an "ouch"

                                Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                                My old uni had a "convenient" Waterstones on campus and they shut down the second hand book shop in favour of an "oriental" food store. Cheeky buggers

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                                  Quartz. wrote:

                                  1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece.

                                  Hmm...Sounds like a book I read recently....MCPD self paced training kit...Complete waste of trees.

                                  Simon

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                                  When i dislike a book, i suddenly find all these things in the same book

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                                  Complete waste of trees

                                  hahaha :)

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                                    I read a lot of books for relaxation, but I love history, neurology, and heavy metal books :-)

                                    Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                    Heavy metal and neurology books. If they've got enough brain cells left to write a book about their history of being a heavy metal band, they weren't really there? :-D

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                                    • R Raj Lal

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      Who would bother reading fiction ?

                                      Da Vinci Code was my last :)

                                      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                      Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                                      Wow - even if I read fiction, I'd avoid that sort of stuff. To each his own, I guess......

                                      Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                      • G Gary Wheeler

                                        Heavy metal and neurology books. If they've got enough brain cells left to write a book about their history of being a heavy metal band, they weren't really there? :-D

                                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                                        Christian Graus
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                                        *grin* not at the same time, obviously.....

                                        Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                                        • R Raj Lal

                                          Recently we had a great discussion on why would you read a book !, if you missed that here[^] is the link This also begs another important question: Why would you hate a book ! Here are some of my reasons 1. Lack of cohesive organization and planning is annoying. 2. If the book is repetitive. 3. If the author mentions topics before they have been properly introduced, 5. When the layout of the book is beginners and it claims to be "professional" in the title. 6. If the book covers more than an overview of all the features, but provides very little "best practice" advice beyond the basics. 7. Book which teaches to to write an applications but won't necessarily teaches to do it well. 8. If the book is not properly researched 9. Approach of having multiple authors cover the same topics without enough editing to make it one cohesive piece. 10. If the book writing is complex or the author is prejudice So what's your reason ?

                                          Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                          Vista Gadget Book: Creating Vista Gadgets using HTML, CSS, & JavaScript. Sample chapter here Selling Your Gadget

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                                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                          No Ctrl + F.

                                          Cheers, Vikram.


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