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    Artiom Chilaru
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    Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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      Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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      Vikram A Punathambekar
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      I think the red colour scheme is hideous. X|

      Cheers, Vikram.


      The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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        I think the red colour scheme is hideous. X|

        Cheers, Vikram.


        The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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        Artiom Chilaru
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        You do have a point.. I'd rather prefer the indigo blue of.. (not the pale-dirty-ish blue they had though).. But we come there for the information, not the design? )

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          I think the red colour scheme is hideous. X|

          Cheers, Vikram.


          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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          Christopher Duncan
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          Well, they're just trying to keep up with the color scheme of Vista's BSOD (Burgendy Screen of Death). :)

          Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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          • A Artiom Chilaru

            Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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            realJSOP
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            I think MSDN is useless.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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              Well, they're just trying to keep up with the color scheme of Vista's BSOD (Burgendy Screen of Death). :)

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              DaveX86
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              I totally agree with you, Christopher...I like the red better than the suicide-inducing blue-green of death. As a matter of fact, if they change that in Vista, or even just give us some colour schemes to choose from, I might consider going Vista :) Update: I misread...I use XP, so haven't seen the Vista BSOD...but like I said still stands :)

              modified on Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:30 PM

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              • A Artiom Chilaru

                Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                peterchen
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                I fails to keep up with Microsofts a-technology-a-day release schedule.

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                • A Artiom Chilaru

                  Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                  DaveX86
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                  I like the direction it's going in. I especially like the bottom part that has all the available sections layed out for browsing. Update: ...come to think of it...it's starting to look a lot like CodeProject ?

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                  • A Artiom Chilaru

                    Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                    Judah Gabriel Himango
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                    It's improving, but still has a ways to go.

                    Life, family, faith: Give me a visit. From my latest post: "When Constantine severed the Hebrew origins of this faith in Messiah, a new religion was officially created. It is this religion that Orthodox Jews fear their relatives and friends becoming members of." Judah Himango

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                      I like the direction it's going in. I especially like the bottom part that has all the available sections layed out for browsing. Update: ...come to think of it...it's starting to look a lot like CodeProject ?

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                      Artiom Chilaru
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                      David Lockwood wrote:

                      Update: ...come to think of it...it's starting to look a lot like CodeProject ?

                      Wow, actually, it does look like it! You just can't comment the articles :)

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                        I think MSDN is useless.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Judah Gabriel Himango
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                        I know you don't like anonymous 1 votes, so I am here to say I am the guy who voted you a 1. :) I did it because while MSDN has problems, it is by no means useless. Half the programming questions asked on this site could be answered with a cursory skim of an MSDN article or documentation page. Sometimes I'll answer folks by pointing directly to an MSDN article that answers the question.

                        Life, family, faith: Give me a visit. From my latest post: "When Constantine severed the Hebrew origins of this faith in Messiah, a new religion was officially created. It is this religion that Orthodox Jews fear their relatives and friends becoming members of." Judah Himango

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                          David Lockwood wrote:

                          Update: ...come to think of it...it's starting to look a lot like CodeProject ?

                          Wow, actually, it does look like it! You just can't comment the articles :)

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                          DaveX86
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                          They'll wait a few months and that will be next...

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                            Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                            Gene OK
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                            My opinion of MSDN is minimal. I'm at the point where reading C++ header files is usually as productive and occasionally not as frustrating as reading MSDN articles. I really appreciate the bad/omitted coverage of exception handling in the c++ examples (often accompanied parenthetically with the statement "error handling omitted for brevity"). It makes the code that everyone cuts and pastes into their own projects a lot smaller and less robust, but much easier to understand... :omg:

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                            • A Artiom Chilaru

                              Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                              ToddHileHoffer
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                              IMHO, it is much improved. It is not perfect, but it is usually worth a shot. I go there when I need information about the .net framework.

                              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                                Lost User
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                                They have removed a lot of content relating to BDA (Broadcast Driver Architecture). I know this becase lots of their intenral links don't work any more X|

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                                  Most of the time, I've tried avoiding visiting the MSDN website, and used the in-built help in the visual studio (Yes, I know it goes to MSDN anyway, and uses the IE engine to do that) just because it didn't have the horrible slow, utterly non-user friendly interface.. I've visited it recently, and I noticed quite a few changes, most for the best.. At least in my opinion.. The search works, and returns feasible results, the interface is simple, but functional.. It just looks more right.. What do you think? MSDN is here :P[^]

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                                  MrPlankton
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                                  I wish they had WINPE available for Universal subscribers.

                                  MrPlankton

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                                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                    I know you don't like anonymous 1 votes, so I am here to say I am the guy who voted you a 1. :) I did it because while MSDN has problems, it is by no means useless. Half the programming questions asked on this site could be answered with a cursory skim of an MSDN article or documentation page. Sometimes I'll answer folks by pointing directly to an MSDN article that answers the question.

                                    Life, family, faith: Give me a visit. From my latest post: "When Constantine severed the Hebrew origins of this faith in Messiah, a new religion was officially created. It is this religion that Orthodox Jews fear their relatives and friends becoming members of." Judah Himango

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                                    Judah Himango wrote:

                                    Half the programming questions asked on this site could be answered with a cursory skim of an MSDN article or documentation page. Sometimes I'll answer folks by pointing directly to an MSDN article that answers the question.

                                    Half the time? :laugh::laugh: The only help I give anyone around here any more is being a Google user! I am thinking of writing a guide to becoming a Code Project MVP. Most of the time all you have to do is find the key words in the OP and plug them into Google prefacing them with the key word "MSDN". Most times the first or one of the first five results is an MSDN article or blog that directly answers the OPs questions. Todays example.[^]  :laugh:

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                                      Well, they're just trying to keep up with the color scheme of Vista's BSOD (Burgendy Screen of Death). :)

                                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                                      Brady Kelly
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                                      Never seen that. I've just had one or two 'fade to white' deaths on my laptop with Vista.

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                                        I know you don't like anonymous 1 votes, so I am here to say I am the guy who voted you a 1. :) I did it because while MSDN has problems, it is by no means useless. Half the programming questions asked on this site could be answered with a cursory skim of an MSDN article or documentation page. Sometimes I'll answer folks by pointing directly to an MSDN article that answers the question.

                                        Life, family, faith: Give me a visit. From my latest post: "When Constantine severed the Hebrew origins of this faith in Messiah, a new religion was officially created. It is this religion that Orthodox Jews fear their relatives and friends becoming members of." Judah Himango

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                                        MSDN used to be a valuable tool. It is a mere shadow of it's former self, and I never consider using it prior to doing an exhaustive search elsewhere on the web first. I bought a subscription to MSDN back when it was first made available (early 90's), and watched it turn to shit over the course of it's now miserable life. In the beginning, their knowledge base was on CD and was actually helpful. Over time, they've lost or deleted most of the original content, so if you don't have the original CDs, you're simply hosed. Of course, this is only a concern if you're a C++ programmer, but how long until it's also true for .Net programmers? Wanna complain? Well, first you have to get a damn Live account. Good luck with that. Every time I try to register, the web site fails in some spectacular way, and I can't get an account. Useless. It's modern incarnation is nothing but rubbish.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                          I think the red colour scheme is hideous. X|

                                          Cheers, Vikram.


                                          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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                                          Zoltan Balazs
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                                          I do like the color scheme.

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