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  • P Paul Watson

    What compact cars have you been in that were cramped? Had a 6'4" cousin who drove a Citi Golf and had no problems. Pretty compact car that.

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    Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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    But there have been quite a few. One example I know off the top of my head, a friend of mine has a Hyndaui minivan. In order to drive it my knees are on the dash and I can't use the mirrors.

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Yep - one of these[^]

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      Paul Watson
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      You know that cycling to work ends up producing more CO2 than car pooling in an efficient car? ;P (I assume whomever did that study studied a 6'6" overweight man pedalling a tricycle up a 22 degree grad while eating four burgers on the way... and that the "efficient car" was beamed back from 2050...)

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        But there have been quite a few. One example I know off the top of my head, a friend of mine has a Hyndaui minivan. In order to drive it my knees are on the dash and I can't use the mirrors.

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        Paul Watson
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        Ouch. Those Hyuandains are pretty short folk alright. You should try a Smart. Entry through the roof for you ;)

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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        • R Ray Kinsella

          Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

          Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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          leckey 0
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          I have a 2004 Saturn L300. They replaced that with the Aura (or something like that). I get 30mph on the interstate and still do well in town. It's been a great little car. It's "solid" in that you don't feel like you will fall out the bottom in some small cars, or the shaking is terrible. Excellent safety features also. The body is made of stuff that makes it harder to get dents or show scratches.

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          • P Paul Watson

            You know that cycling to work ends up producing more CO2 than car pooling in an efficient car? ;P (I assume whomever did that study studied a 6'6" overweight man pedalling a tricycle up a 22 degree grad while eating four burgers on the way... and that the "efficient car" was beamed back from 2050...)

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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            I would *love* to see that study! Anyway, I'm using bio-fuels :P

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              I would *love* to see that study! Anyway, I'm using bio-fuels :P

              cheers, Chris Maunder

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              Paul Watson
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              > Anyway, I'm using bio-fuels Vegemite is brilliant. Using a waste byproduct of beer for fuel is genius.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              • R Ray Kinsella

                Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                Lost User
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                '07 VW Passat diesel wagon. We bought it for the safety and because we wanted a proper wagon not an SUV rather than because its diesel. Very very happy with it, we get about 6 liters per 100 kms which is about 48mpg

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Renault Megane - it's OK, but I primarily bought it for it's safety - it's a Euro NCAP 5 (the highest safety rating) and I put the safety of my kids above my old sports car.

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                  Colin Angus Mackay
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                  I got a Toyota Yaris because it had a good safety rating (I don't know the NCAP rating though) and because it was a low tax band because of its fuel efficiency. I've had it at just shy of 55MPG. Back to the safety. Just after I bought my Yaris I saw someone had crashed theirs. The car the collided with was 100m away buried in a hedge by the side of the road. The Yaris was a mess of airbags and the previous occupants were standing on the opposite side of the road looking shaken but alive. I find it increadible the number of surfaces that have "Airbag" written on them.

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                  • R Ray Kinsella

                    Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                    Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                    MrPlankton
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                    I have a big Honk'n Ford Pickup Truck from the early 80's. It burns emulsified clubbed baby seals. It has wonderful gas mileage, since it burns no gas. It has a small carbon foot print.

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                    • R Ray Kinsella

                      Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                      Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                      Mike Dimmick
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                      Toyota Prius, getting approx 60mpg (imperial) at present indicated on the multi-function display. Reportedly this can be a bit inaccurate, but when I last refuelled I'd done 453 miles since last fuel and the pump reported 33.49 litres distributed when it cut off. That works out at 61.5mpg. (I'm refuelling with two blobs out of ten left on the fuel gauge, as the manual says that the fuel pump will struggle with less than 25% in the tank, as the fuel pump is cooled by being immersed in the fuel.) The Prius, in the US at least, has a resin bladder to contain the fuel, whose capacity changes according to temperature. This helps to prevent fuel evaporating in the tank. I'm not actually sure if the UK model has this feature - some commenters say no. The fact that the capacity changes makes measuring how much fuel you used quite tricky. Performance - it has no step gears, being an 'electric CVT', so you don't lose any time changing gears. The car can keep the engine turning at peak torque and apply the motor torque as well for fast acceleration (for short periods). It's a lot quicker than my old 1.6 Ford Focus when overtaking. There is a bit of lag as it gets all the motors pointing the right way before it takes off, though. Beware the sticker shock - this car, three months old, ex-demonstrator, cost me £16,350 (less trading in the seven-year-old Focus for £1,750). Small diesels will use less fuel than this even after allowing for the fact that diesel has more energy per unit volume than petrol (it's about 13%, with only a 10% premium in price in the UK). It depends what you want the car to do. Personally the technology in the Prius intrigued me, and I have to say I like the acceleration and the space.

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                        Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                        Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                        It always makes me smile hearing Americans talk about fuel efficiency in their cars ;o) There is nothing fuel-efficient about a car with a 4 or 5 litre engine (or larger!) America could lower the price of oil the world over if everyone there drove a car with a 1 litre engine. Lets face it, your speed limit is so low, you don't need anything larger... (unrelated...but... do Americans refer to engine sizes in litres? And if so, why is that the only metric measure you've adopted?)

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                          It always makes me smile hearing Americans talk about fuel efficiency in their cars ;o) There is nothing fuel-efficient about a car with a 4 or 5 litre engine (or larger!) America could lower the price of oil the world over if everyone there drove a car with a 1 litre engine. Lets face it, your speed limit is so low, you don't need anything larger... (unrelated...but... do Americans refer to engine sizes in litres? And if so, why is that the only metric measure you've adopted?)

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                          Super Lloyd
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                          MPG: Miles Per Gallon Why did you thought american use litters?!? :confused:

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                          • R Ray Kinsella

                            Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                            Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                            Tom Delany
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                            I have a 2007 Toyota Prius. Get about 45 MPG without trying. If I watch how I drive, I can milk a bit more out of it. It was kind of pricey, but I love it. It is a true geek's car. :)

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                              I got a Toyota Yaris because it had a good safety rating (I don't know the NCAP rating though) and because it was a low tax band because of its fuel efficiency. I've had it at just shy of 55MPG. Back to the safety. Just after I bought my Yaris I saw someone had crashed theirs. The car the collided with was 100m away buried in a hedge by the side of the road. The Yaris was a mess of airbags and the previous occupants were standing on the opposite side of the road looking shaken but alive. I find it increadible the number of surfaces that have "Airbag" written on them.

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                              Tom Delany
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                              Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                              I've had it at just shy of 55MPG.

                              Wow. :omg: That's not even a hybrid, is it? My Prius runs about 45 MPG without my doing anything special. Pretty sure I could get 55 if I paid close attention to the way I was driving it...

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                                Is it expensive to get the Prius serviced. I always wondered that about the hybrid cars, are they hell to maintain ?

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                                Ray Kinsella wrote:

                                Is it expensive to get the Prius serviced. I always wondered that about the hybrid cars, are they hell to maintain ?

                                Mine only has a little over 10,000 miles on it. So far I have only had routine maintenance done to it (oil change, etc.). The batteries and such have a 100,000 mile warranty. Other parts are shorter warranty (I forget exactly what off the top of my head).

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                                  Yep - one of these[^]

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                                  Tom Delany
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                                  Pretty fuel efficient!

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                                  • M MrPlankton

                                    I have a big Honk'n Ford Pickup Truck from the early 80's. It burns emulsified clubbed baby seals. It has wonderful gas mileage, since it burns no gas. It has a small carbon foot print.

                                    MrPlankton

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                                    MrPlankton wrote:

                                    It burns emulsified clubbed baby seals.

                                    :laugh: That's priceless! :laugh:

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                                      Toyota Prius, getting approx 60mpg (imperial) at present indicated on the multi-function display. Reportedly this can be a bit inaccurate, but when I last refuelled I'd done 453 miles since last fuel and the pump reported 33.49 litres distributed when it cut off. That works out at 61.5mpg. (I'm refuelling with two blobs out of ten left on the fuel gauge, as the manual says that the fuel pump will struggle with less than 25% in the tank, as the fuel pump is cooled by being immersed in the fuel.) The Prius, in the US at least, has a resin bladder to contain the fuel, whose capacity changes according to temperature. This helps to prevent fuel evaporating in the tank. I'm not actually sure if the UK model has this feature - some commenters say no. The fact that the capacity changes makes measuring how much fuel you used quite tricky. Performance - it has no step gears, being an 'electric CVT', so you don't lose any time changing gears. The car can keep the engine turning at peak torque and apply the motor torque as well for fast acceleration (for short periods). It's a lot quicker than my old 1.6 Ford Focus when overtaking. There is a bit of lag as it gets all the motors pointing the right way before it takes off, though. Beware the sticker shock - this car, three months old, ex-demonstrator, cost me £16,350 (less trading in the seven-year-old Focus for £1,750). Small diesels will use less fuel than this even after allowing for the fact that diesel has more energy per unit volume than petrol (it's about 13%, with only a 10% premium in price in the UK). It depends what you want the car to do. Personally the technology in the Prius intrigued me, and I have to say I like the acceleration and the space.

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                                      Tom Delany
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                                      Mike Dimmick wrote:

                                      Toyota Prius, getting approx 60mpg (imperial)

                                      Yeah. That works out about in line with my observations (about 50 miles/US gallon). I suspect you are more careful about how fast you take off from a dead stop, etc. than I am. I usually get around 45 MPG (US), but I can easily get it up to 50 if I watch how I drive.

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                                        It always makes me smile hearing Americans talk about fuel efficiency in their cars ;o) There is nothing fuel-efficient about a car with a 4 or 5 litre engine (or larger!) America could lower the price of oil the world over if everyone there drove a car with a 1 litre engine. Lets face it, your speed limit is so low, you don't need anything larger... (unrelated...but... do Americans refer to engine sizes in litres? And if so, why is that the only metric measure you've adopted?)

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                                        Kyudos wrote:

                                        do Americans refer to engine sizes in litres?

                                        Yes.

                                        Kyudos wrote:

                                        And if so, why is that the only metric measure you've adopted?

                                        Beats me. Maybe because all the cars are made outside the US now (not literally true). What happened to gold old "cubic inches"? :-D

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                                          Any CPians driving fuel efficient cars ? What are they and how do they rate performance versus efficiency trade off ?

                                          Regards Ray "Je Suis Mort De Rire" Blogging @ Keratoconus Watch If its fast and ugly, they will use it and curse you; if its slow they will not use it -- David Cheriton

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                                          PIEBALDconsult
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                                          2000 Toyota Echo, I get 38 MPG overall. I commute 30 miles each way, all freeway, pretty much level, usually at 80 MPH. On road trips, from Phoenix to L.A., it can exceed 40 MPG, doing 90 MPH. (With the air conditioner blasting.) I'm 6' tall, the Echo has lots of headroom. And I like being able to see the speedometer; getting used to the position of the dashboard took about two hours. I may trade it for a Yaris at some point.

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