"Looking for developers with at least TEN years of experience in .NET Frameworks [sic].."
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
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sure I do...in dog years :-D
Steve
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
Other thing in Chennai is that Human Resource personnel and recruitment consultants blatantly make use of the word 'We would get back to you' for candidates who are typically fresh grads even if they have already have some one for their posts. Why can not they politely regret with a reason so that the candidate would be preparing for the next interview in more confidence. When would those fucking assholes learn and understand the correct etiquette of professional liasoning with candidates?
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
I remember about 2 years ago seeing a recruiter looking for someone with at least 10 years c# experience. I rang him out of curiousity and asked how many people he was getting that met the criteria and he said quite a few. I pointed out that c# as a working language was only around for about 5 years and he went quiet ...
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
Jeff Atwood had a good blog on this a few months back. This is known as the Years of Experience Myth[^. Aside from showing how ignorant of the technology the recruiter and/or manager is, this also shows the company doesn't really understand programming or programmers:
"It's been shown time and time again that there is no correlation between years of experience and skill in programming. After about six to twelve months working in any particular technology stack, you either get it or you don't."
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
Yea Awesome requirement ..Let including all of my using hours [wondering,sleeping BothRoom, Toilet, Chating, etc....] with 8 hours of Office <7-24> Because i started imy carrier itself inDot net..... :) :zzz: (: sure i have tht exp....... :laugh:
jeetran
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Has always been the same: agents or recruiters with little or no technical knowledge and no understanding of the requirement that's been set. This usually indicates a recruitment tyro whose work is not being supervised by a more senior person. For instance, my present agent has a reasonable understanding so doesn't make these schoolboy errors.
The best requirement I've read is for someone with Sequel experience...
Vincent www.pub-olympics.com
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I've never gotten anything more than "2-3 years" or "3+ years" THIS IS THE REAL LECKEY. [edit] Imagine my horror this morning to look back a few pages in the Lounge and see my name with a bunch of "Message Removed." Turns out Josh/pimpdog/CataclysmicIdiot/HoldOnLetMeThink decided to change his name to mine. I have not done sh*t to him recently but apparently he got into the cough syrup last night and decided to take out vengence on me. Some people said some nasty things back to me in the SB thinking it really was me. (ie. "Why don't you celebrate getting fired again.") I am beyond pissed right now. Since I haven't read SB recently this apparently was a jab at Josh, not me. I took it wrong--my apologies. He (Josh) recently whined about why does all his posts get voted down and I actually wrote a nice post saying even though we did not get along, if he woul make a real effort to not call people names and act like a child, he could maybe reintroduce himself into the CP community. No response, old behavior. So if his account has not been disabled or "fixed" I want people to make sure they are responding to the real leckey. Just check my profile and you can tell which is which. [/edit]
Until Josh's account gets "fixed" and can no longer use my name, use caution before responding to me. http://craptasticnation.blogspot.com/[^]
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Has always been the same: agents or recruiters with little or no technical knowledge and no understanding of the requirement that's been set. This usually indicates a recruitment tyro whose work is not being supervised by a more senior person. For instance, my present agent has a reasonable understanding so doesn't make these schoolboy errors.
Step 1: Project members tell project lead they need someone who knows TechX Step 2: Project lead tells Project Manager they need a mid-senior (whatever they're calling us that day) who knows TechX (forgetting to mention what constitutes mid-senior for said TechX). Lead wants someone who's been around a while and hopes this will cut down on green applicants. Step 3: Project Manager gives HR job descriptions for a mid-level and senior-level position including TechX. He wants someone who's been in the trenches (like the Lead) and decided he'll figure out how well they know TechX in the interviews. Step 4: HR takes company standard level-to-years correlation and adds it to the description, usually *after* the word "including." They then toss this out to the world without checking to see if the request still makes sense. Step 5: Entertaining posts on sites like this. All sorts of fun comes once HR gets involved...
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
A few weeks ago I encountered an ad desiring "5 years of experience with Ruby on Rails" on the same day that the fifth anniversary of the release of Rails was announced. I wrote and told them that apparently they wanted the creators of Rails and where they could find them.
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Jeff Atwood had a good blog on this a few months back. This is known as the Years of Experience Myth[^. Aside from showing how ignorant of the technology the recruiter and/or manager is, this also shows the company doesn't really understand programming or programmers:
"It's been shown time and time again that there is no correlation between years of experience and skill in programming. After about six to twelve months working in any particular technology stack, you either get it or you don't."
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
Philip Laureano wrote:
have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed?
Not seen an ad directly. But back in about 2002 an agent told me that she had a client who was insisting on 10 years' .NET. :wtf:
Kevin
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Has always been the same: agents or recruiters with little or no technical knowledge and no understanding of the requirement that's been set. This usually indicates a recruitment tyro whose work is not being supervised by a more senior person. For instance, my present agent has a reasonable understanding so doesn't make these schoolboy errors.
digital man wrote:
agents or recruiters with little or no technical knowledge
Like: "the difference between C and C++ is that one is case-sensitive and the other isn't." :laugh:
Kevin
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Aside from the folks already working at Microsoft, have you ever run into any job postings that actually demand that you have more years of experience working in some framework than the number of years the said framework (e.g., .NET) has actually existed? They always seem to crack me up. :)
Do you know...LinFu?
When I was still in college, '97 thereabouts, I received an offer for interview form a company in Chicago looking for a Java developer with 5 or more years of Java development experience...the base salary was $120K. I almost had a PT Barnum moment.