purchase order denied....
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
What you need to do is develope your own, new language, design and code a compiler for it, call it something like "Private Intellisense Secure Safe Object Orientated Filemaker" and then get them to pay for that! Can you imagine billing them for PISSOFF even before you start work on their code? That is a real catch 22 you have there buddy!
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
*sigh* I'd hate to work for a big company.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
You have to laugh. Life hands you some silly stuff like this often and if you ever come to the ME, you'll get A LOT of 'em, especially if you're working in the technology industry.
"Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon
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*sigh* I'd hate to work for a big company.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
otoh I asked for VS08pro (stand alone) a few weeks ago. After responding to a 'what version do you need' email, in part by "...and other features that aren't part of the express/standard versions..." I actually was given an MSDN sub as the VSpro level. I'm not complaining, and when I have the time/need I intend to virtualize my seldom used NT4/win2k text boxes, but I didn't ask for msdn because there was nothing there I actually needed.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always got punched out when I reached 4.... -- El Corazon
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
At my previous company, changing the wallpaper was disabled - for security reasons. :wtf: What made matters worse is that they set it to a default ugly BMP, and when you remoted in from home to solve a Severity 1 production issue, it would take 10+ minutes to load your screen. :doh:
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Of course I am slightly more brash. I told the IT staff responsible for the CF if they didn't authorize it I would have a floor of developers sitting around, being paid hourly, doing nothing and that I would bring it up at the next meeting with the VP. Sometimes reality can win.
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Of course I am slightly more brash. I told the IT staff responsible for the CF if they didn't authorize it I would have a floor of developers sitting around, being paid hourly, doing nothing and that I would bring it up at the next meeting with the VP. Sometimes reality can win.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
Sometimes reality can win.
Not here. :-) This has nothing to do with reality, never has, never will. Reality requires work, work requires thought, stamping no is much easier. I will try, but I won't win out of anything dealing with reality.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Ah well, back to Notepad.
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At my previous company, changing the wallpaper was disabled - for security reasons. :wtf: What made matters worse is that they set it to a default ugly BMP, and when you remoted in from home to solve a Severity 1 production issue, it would take 10+ minutes to load your screen. :doh:
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
What made matters worse is that they set it to a default ugly BMP...
Could you just change the actual .bmp file?
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
What made matters worse is that they set it to a default ugly BMP...
Could you just change the actual .bmp file?
"Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
To make matters worse, it was on a readonly n/w share. But I hacked the registry. :-\
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
For god's sake man - you're a Linux shop. Of course VS is denied - don't even think about wanting an office space with windows.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
You won't take down administrative stupidity with serious arguments. Ridiculing them is so much more fun! :D
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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What you need to do is develope your own, new language, design and code a compiler for it, call it something like "Private Intellisense Secure Safe Object Orientated Filemaker" and then get them to pay for that! Can you imagine billing them for PISSOFF even before you start work on their code? That is a real catch 22 you have there buddy!
------------------------------------ "I want you to imagine I have a blaster in my hand" - Zaphod Beeblebrox. "You DO have a blaster in your hand" - Freighter Pilot "Yeah, so you don't have to tax your imagination too hard" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
Dalek Dave wrote:
"Private Intellisense Secure Safe Object Orientated Filemaker"
PISSOOF? :confused:
Imagine that you are hired to build a bridge over a river. The river gets slightly wider every day; sometimes it shrinks but nobody can predict when. Your contract says you can't use concrete or steel - the client only provides timber and cut stone (but won't tell you what kind). Gravity changes from hour to hour, as does the viscosity of air. Your only tools are a hacksaw, a chainsaw, a rubber mallet, and a length of rope. Welcome to my world. -Me explaining my job to an engineer
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For god's sake man - you're a Linux shop. Of course VS is denied - don't even think about wanting an office space with windows.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
For god's sake man - you're a Linux shop.
Ironically, Linux is requested by the customer, but forbidden software. For windows, Visual Studio is required building environment, but also forbidden software. You can't win, two groups with mutually exclusive agendas. :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
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You won't take down administrative stupidity with serious arguments. Ridiculing them is so much more fun! :D
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistThis reminds me of having to have VP authority to purchase a new PC but sufficient authority to purchase all parts necessary to build a killer machine. At 40% higher cost. I understand the bean counter checking his/her list, but surely there should be an exception clause to have mgt. exercise their perogitive to make exceptions. I already know what you are going to say....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
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This reminds me of having to have VP authority to purchase a new PC but sufficient authority to purchase all parts necessary to build a killer machine. At 40% higher cost. I understand the bean counter checking his/her list, but surely there should be an exception clause to have mgt. exercise their perogitive to make exceptions. I already know what you are going to say....
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
charlieg wrote:
I already know what you are going to say....
Would I say something like "This would require employees and leaders to take responsibility for actions they aren't qualified to make, rather than relying on lists provided by people not qualified to make them and allowing them to disperse blame" ? :D Good leadership and good organization skills are as hard to find as good workers.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of a developer.... The project leader has the money, approved the purchase, but ... the software was denied from outside the company because it is not on the approved software list.... All kinds of thoughts probably go through your mnd... what kind of horrible software would I ask for? was I doing virtual models? nope... Visual Studio.... :) Yes, that evil of evil's.... Visual Studio! :rolleyes: :doh: :sigh: Now I need to write a rebuttal as to why this is needed.... Install anywhere was denied because it had "anywhere" in the title, PC-anywhere is on the forbidden list. Somehow I get this image of a guy going "remote debugging? that is a form of remote monitoring which is forbidden. Denied!" of course it could also be because it has visual in the title, videos are forbidden too. Then again they might even know what it is, I should give them more credit, right? Nothing is more evil than ability to write new executables that are not on the approved list, we have to get them approved as executables before we can build them... of course to get them approved we have to make the executables first, which is probably forbidden.... :doh:
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."
Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content. However, the company does SEEM to take employee monitoring laws seriously, which is not a bad thing at all. However, you should be able to explain and get the tool anyway. Which, as I take it, didn't work out.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
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charlieg wrote:
I already know what you are going to say....
Would I say something like "This would require employees and leaders to take responsibility for actions they aren't qualified to make, rather than relying on lists provided by people not qualified to make them and allowing them to disperse blame" ? :D Good leadership and good organization skills are as hard to find as good workers.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistYeah, something like that :) I remember the time I walked in to the controller's office to get approval to spend something like 25K. I needed to build 15 systems for trade shows in about 3 weeks. I told him what the $$ was for, we were on a tight schedule, could I please have the credit card. While he was thinking about it, I glanced at this desk where it was covered with $20-$50 book PURCHASE ORDERS. Amazed, I politely asked him what in the heck he was doing. Seemed the company had a policy to make sure the engineers and software weenies did not duplicate book orders. Here's a guy making upwards of 6 figures tracking a library. Simply amazing. I actually went back to work for said company and could not tolerate the inbred, don't make waves, we're not paid to be smart culture. I do not tolerate a culture of stupidity very long. Mistakes everyone makes, stupidity should be hunted down and microwaved until it stops moving. And we wonder where Dilbert gets his material.
Charlie Gilley Will program for food...
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Well, the problem with big companies: orders need to go through the commercial departments, which, at some point, need to justify expenses, and will judge products by their label, not their content. However, the company does SEEM to take employee monitoring laws seriously, which is not a bad thing at all. However, you should be able to explain and get the tool anyway. Which, as I take it, didn't work out.
Cheers, Sebastian -- "If it was two men, the non-driver would have challenged the driver to simply crash through the gates. The macho image thing, you know." - Marc Clifton
My director needed some items (<$1,000) and tried the Red Tape Roller Coaster. He gave up, bought it on the company credit card and sent it for reimbursement. All he had to do was write a letter of apology to Purchasing, but he got his stuff. :-\ P.S. GREAT quote, Charlie! ("Mistakes everyone makes, stupidity should be hunted down and microwaved until it stops moving.")
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To make matters worse, it was on a readonly n/w share. But I hacked the registry. :-\
Cheers, Vikram.
The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.
So, let me get this straight. They disabled changing the wallpaper - for security reasons - but left access to regedit freely available? I don't believe the English language contains the right words to describe the feelings of hilarity rising up within me right now.