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  • G gToX

    This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

    ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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    Single Step Debugger
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    I had to play a lot with different AV solutions some time ago, and I made a lot of tests, including a real spyware/adware/viruses. So IMHO the Symantec is NOT real AV – this is an application created to hide the viruses and to eat your system resources. The McAfee is really good AV software, but also is very heavy and difficult to use. The best choice on this stage is NOD32, with the shortcoming, that if you need a ultimate protection you should combine NOD32 with some anti – spyware program /scanspyware or something similar/.

    The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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    • L Lost User

      Dude I have the same problem but at my pc in home what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger?

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      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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      The Developer wrote:

      what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger

      1. Start -> Settings -> Control Panels -> Add and Remove Programes 2) Scroll down to find that yellow beast by its name. 3) Choose 'Uninstall'/'Remove' as is appropriate. 4) Go. Have a beer to celebrate the freedom of your PC.

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      • M Michael Schubert

        Why is it not scheduled to run at night?

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        Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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        For some reason, AVG also schedules in the morning hour.

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        • L Lost User

          Dude I have the same problem but at my pc in home what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger?

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          Pete OHanlon
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          Uninstall Norton. Install decent Anti Spyware/Virus Scanning tools and run them. Keep them up to date and remove any dodgy software you have installed.

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          • P PTJA

            Once I was asked to do some maintenance of PC located in... the hotel's kitchen. Canned air didn't work - it was not dusted but had dust and fat mixture :-). I just washed the radiator with brush and detergent.

            -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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            Michael Schubert
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            This reminds me of the movie "Dead men don't wear plaid" with Steve Martin where he cleans his gun in a sink of soap water with a brush.

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              Uninstall Norton. Install decent Anti Spyware/Virus Scanning tools and run them. Keep them up to date and remove any dodgy software you have installed.

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              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              remove any dodgy software

              WinPatrol is a good one to detect any software that gets installed or gets privileged without your notice like as part of another like RealOne Player setup. http://www.winpatrol.com/[^]

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              • G gToX

                This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                Mike Dimmick
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                Norton Anti-Virus eats resources like no tomorrow, interferes with the correct operation of numerous programs, but is terrible at stopping viruses. Dump it.

                DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                • G gToX

                  This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                  ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                  Peter Kurishev
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                  Use another AV software or try to reconfigure the one you have. Move scanning to night and choose not to scan all the files (only executables and script) at realtime. Change the priority of the AV scanner.

                  -- Sincerely yours, Peter A. Kurishev

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                  • G gToX

                    This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                    ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                    John M Drescher
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                    I have not seen the 50% CPU usage with that software however I have seen it use almost 200MB of memory split across two of the services it starts. Sadly that is the antivirus that the University has a contract with and thus if we switched we would have to buy something ourselves.

                    John

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                    • G gToX

                      This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                      ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                      El Corazon
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                      gToX wrote:

                      This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU.

                      go into the settings for the AV and read what is there and post it here. Once we know what it is doing we can offer advice. Running without AV is not an option here, and I wouldn't recommend it anyhow. However, knowing what you have and what you can do with it rather than just disabling it is a much better position to start with. :) Ours are managed on internet machines, so I can't tune them. We don't develop on internet machines.

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                      • G gToX

                        This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                        ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                        Ray Cassick
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                        When the hell is some company going to come out with hardware based virus protection? Just sit in the bus and look at the bits as they whiz by and throw up a signal to the OS as to what is bad and what needs cleaning...


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                        • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                          FORMAT C: /Y

                          How about format C: \u /y ? just to be sure :) Or even better, why not use FDisk? :)

                          "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                          Vikram A Punathambekar
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                          What is the U switch, and why does it come with a backslash?

                          Cheers, Vikram.


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                            I'm curious what other people are getting in the I/O Read Bytes and I/O Write Bytes columns in task manager (have to show them with View / Select Columns first). Since IT installed this thing both HDs are hammered non-stop (CPU usage is OK though). Rtvscan.exe is reading about 100 gigabytes and writing about 250 gigabytes per day according to those columns in task manager, which maybe explains why my builds take over 10 minutes....

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                            Stuart Dootson
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                            Mine doesn't read or write anything like that much - maybe 7-10GB/day? But then maybe I don't build as often as you :-) It's still something like 100x more IO than any other process. Oh - and the other thing - it has 18-20 processes open constantly. Doing what? No idea.

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                            • J James Simpson

                              Can you compromise and exclude the location of your sourcefiles from the Realtime options - we have an AV Policy at work, so we live with it but exclude our Subversion Tree.. James

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                              Stuart Dootson
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                              James Simpson wrote:

                              Can you compromise and exclude the location of your sourcefiles from the Realtime options

                              Mmmmm - not sure. It would need admin access (which officially I don't have). Getting our IT people to do it officially is a non-starter - our IT security team are as paranoid as they come and unwilling to listen to reason (or maybe they're that incompetent they don't recognise reason..yep, that'll be it). Anyway, these days it doesn't matter too much, as we've recently acquired development machines on a LAN that's completely separated (air-gapped) from our corporate LAN. I use AVG there, which works very nicely thank you very much :-)

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                              • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                What is the U switch, and why does it come with a backslash?

                                Cheers, Vikram.


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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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                                The u switch stops the format command from saving unformat information, therefore making sure your high-level format is a one way ticket :)

                                "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                                  The u switch stops the format command from saving unformat information, therefore making sure your high-level format is a one way ticket :)

                                  "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                  Interesting, but I don't see it when I type FORMAT /? Maybe they removed it in Vista.

                                  Cheers, Vikram.


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                                  • M Michael Schubert

                                    Install more CPUs.

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                                    Lost User
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                                    I was thinking to bring a 1 GB RAM

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                                    • M Mladen Jankovic

                                      Unplug your Internet connection.

                                      Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                                      Lost User
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                                      That didn't work ;P

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                                      • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                                        Start - Run - cmd.exe Then type FORMAT C: /Y and hit Enter. CPU usage will be down to 0.

                                        Cheers, Vikram.


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                                        Lost User
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                                        you try it first and tell me the result

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                                        • R Ray Cassick

                                          When the hell is some company going to come out with hardware based virus protection? Just sit in the bus and look at the bits as they whiz by and throw up a signal to the OS as to what is bad and what needs cleaning...


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                                          Peter Kurishev
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                                          As I know there are some models of Ethernet hardware routers / firewalls that have AV protection inside it. This can help. I can hardly imagine AV protection in BIOS :)

                                          -- Sincerely yours, Peter A. Kurishev

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