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  • H hairy_hats

    gToX wrote:

    RTVScan.exe

    Ah. Symantec.

    gToX wrote:

    50% of my CPU

    That's about right. My advice is: change your AV.

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    gToX
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    Steve_Harris wrote:

    My advice is: change your AV.

    Sorry mate. If I had it my way, I'd uninstall every last piece of AV on my machine. After all, there's IT with their gazillion firewall services to try and block any unsafe EXEs from coming to my machine. Then I have this habit of right-click > Open for all removable drives, so that won't allow any autorun type virii to infect my machine. I wish IT heard my woes X|

    ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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    • G Gary Wheeler

      I've gone round and round with our corporate IT gestapo over this particular issue. We've recently switched from Symantec Antivirus to McAfee. With Symantec we turned off the real-time scanning and did a full scan every night. In theory this approach wasn't quite as safe, but it reduced our build times from over 3 hours to around 45 minutes. McAfee has given the security goons the means to prevent us from turning the real-time scanning off. I did find a weakness, however. They let me exclude the entire disk drive from the real-time scan, which effectively neuters it. I wish they had investigated this further. I use NOD32 from ESET at home, with its real-time scan feature turned on, and it doesn't suck every last resource out of the machine. Build times increase only a few percent, and it doesn't hammer the disk drive constantly.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      TheRealEye
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      Yeah ESET is the best in this test ;-) Integrated Firewall is awesome :)

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      • G gToX

        This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

        ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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        Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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        I got into a serious argument with several of the IT admins and decision makers at my old company about the use of Symantec AV. Verdict was that I was right, after a few hours of arguing, providing proof (that already was under their nose) off of the internet but they have to stick with Symantec. No sane reason was provided. I don't work there anymore.

        "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

          Start - Run - cmd.exe Then type FORMAT C: /Y and hit Enter. CPU usage will be down to 0.

          Cheers, Vikram.


          The hands that help are holier than the lips that pray.

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

          FORMAT C: /Y

          How about format C: \u /y ? just to be sure :) Or even better, why not use FDisk? :)

          "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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          • S Stuart Dootson

            I've found something similar with the AV software we use at work - the extra disk accessing required by real-time scanning just about doubles build times, especially when you've got 40-50MB pre-compiled header files....

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            James Simpson
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            Can you compromise and exclude the location of your sourcefiles from the Realtime options - we have an AV Policy at work, so we live with it but exclude our Subversion Tree.. James

            James Simpson Web Developer imebgo@hotmail.com P S - This is what part of the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated
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            • M Michael Schubert

              Yeah, I get a taste of it every 4 weeks or so when I clean the heat sink with canned air.

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              PTJA
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              Once I was asked to do some maintenance of PC located in... the hotel's kitchen. Canned air didn't work - it was not dusted but had dust and fat mixture :-). I just washed the radiator with brush and detergent.

              -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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              • M Michael Schubert

                Why is it not scheduled to run at night?

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                Dave Parker
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                Not sure, but can't find any schedule settings on the client. It has "File system auto-protect" switched on along with proactive threat protection. It seems to scan continuously but tends to slow things down more on fridays than other days.

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                • G gToX

                  This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                  ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                  Single Step Debugger
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                  I had to play a lot with different AV solutions some time ago, and I made a lot of tests, including a real spyware/adware/viruses. So IMHO the Symantec is NOT real AV – this is an application created to hide the viruses and to eat your system resources. The McAfee is really good AV software, but also is very heavy and difficult to use. The best choice on this stage is NOD32, with the shortcoming, that if you need a ultimate protection you should combine NOD32 with some anti – spyware program /scanspyware or something similar/.

                  The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Dude I have the same problem but at my pc in home what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger?

                    The Developer is right all the time No Fear The Developer is Here

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    The Developer wrote:

                    what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger

                    1. Start -> Settings -> Control Panels -> Add and Remove Programes 2) Scroll down to find that yellow beast by its name. 3) Choose 'Uninstall'/'Remove' as is appropriate. 4) Go. Have a beer to celebrate the freedom of your PC.

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                    • M Michael Schubert

                      Why is it not scheduled to run at night?

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      For some reason, AVG also schedules in the morning hour.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Dude I have the same problem but at my pc in home what can we do to reduce its CPU hunger?

                        The Developer is right all the time No Fear The Developer is Here

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                        Pete OHanlon
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                        Uninstall Norton. Install decent Anti Spyware/Virus Scanning tools and run them. Keep them up to date and remove any dodgy software you have installed.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        • P PTJA

                          Once I was asked to do some maintenance of PC located in... the hotel's kitchen. Canned air didn't work - it was not dusted but had dust and fat mixture :-). I just washed the radiator with brush and detergent.

                          -- Jarek Andrzejewski

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                          Michael Schubert
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                          This reminds me of the movie "Dead men don't wear plaid" with Steve Martin where he cleans his gun in a sink of soap water with a brush.

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            Uninstall Norton. Install decent Anti Spyware/Virus Scanning tools and run them. Keep them up to date and remove any dodgy software you have installed.

                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                            Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            remove any dodgy software

                            WinPatrol is a good one to detect any software that gets installed or gets privileged without your notice like as part of another like RealOne Player setup. http://www.winpatrol.com/[^]

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                            • G gToX

                              This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                              ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                              Mike Dimmick
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                              Norton Anti-Virus eats resources like no tomorrow, interferes with the correct operation of numerous programs, but is terrible at stopping viruses. Dump it.

                              DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                              • G gToX

                                This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                                ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                                Peter Kurishev
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                                Use another AV software or try to reconfigure the one you have. Move scanning to night and choose not to scan all the files (only executables and script) at realtime. Change the priority of the AV scanner.

                                -- Sincerely yours, Peter A. Kurishev

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                                • G gToX

                                  This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                                  ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                                  John M Drescher
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                                  I have not seen the 50% CPU usage with that software however I have seen it use almost 200MB of memory split across two of the services it starts. Sadly that is the antivirus that the University has a contract with and thus if we switched we would have to buy something ourselves.

                                  John

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                                  • G gToX

                                    This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                                    ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                                    El Corazon
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                                    gToX wrote:

                                    This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU.

                                    go into the settings for the AV and read what is there and post it here. Once we know what it is doing we can offer advice. Running without AV is not an option here, and I wouldn't recommend it anyhow. However, knowing what you have and what you can do with it rather than just disabling it is a much better position to start with. :) Ours are managed on internet machines, so I can't tune them. We don't develop on internet machines.

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                    • G gToX

                                      This stinks!!! IT just had a guy sent over to "upgrade" the antivirus on my system. He's done installing the AV software, I reboot the PC, and the next thing I know RTVScan.exe is eating up 50% of my CPU. :mad: X|

                                      ====================================== Screwed-up people settle fights through violence. Screwed-up people start wars that could kill millions. Normal people settle fights through cookies, cakes, and pies. Normal people are fat.

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                                      Ray Cassick
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                                      When the hell is some company going to come out with hardware based virus protection? Just sit in the bus and look at the bits as they whiz by and throw up a signal to the OS as to what is bad and what needs cleaning...


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                                      • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                        FORMAT C: /Y

                                        How about format C: \u /y ? just to be sure :) Or even better, why not use FDisk? :)

                                        "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed. Lotus Notes is a conspiracy by the forces of Satan to drive us over the brink into madness. The CRC-32 for each file in the installation includes the numbers 666." Gary Wheeler "You're an idiot." John Simmons, THE Outlaw programmer "I realised that all of my best anecdotes started with "So there we were, pissed". Pete O'Hanlon

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                                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                        What is the U switch, and why does it come with a backslash?

                                        Cheers, Vikram.


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                                        • D Dave Parker

                                          I'm curious what other people are getting in the I/O Read Bytes and I/O Write Bytes columns in task manager (have to show them with View / Select Columns first). Since IT installed this thing both HDs are hammered non-stop (CPU usage is OK though). Rtvscan.exe is reading about 100 gigabytes and writing about 250 gigabytes per day according to those columns in task manager, which maybe explains why my builds take over 10 minutes....

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                                          Stuart Dootson
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                                          Mine doesn't read or write anything like that much - maybe 7-10GB/day? But then maybe I don't build as often as you :-) It's still something like 100x more IO than any other process. Oh - and the other thing - it has 18-20 processes open constantly. Doing what? No idea.

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