Which VS do you like?
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
Once you have VS2002, I used to think it didn't matter, but I am quite partial to the two I use, 2005 and 2008. I notice the UI is prettier when I have to go back, and I see nothing that's gotten worse with time. Not in .NET anyhow. C++ support is anotehr thing.
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
I've started with VS2008 roughly a month ago, and actually I quite like it. (Except that the solution build system was developed by morons, for morons)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
I like VS2008 the best so far. It handles things better than its predecessor. It also depends on what you are developing, and how many references and projects you use at one time.
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
VS2008 Pro, but then I rarely do anything but C# stuff any more. Better performance than VS2005 and handles all the new stuff like LINQ etc, less susceptible to designer crashes as well. I wouldn't know about C++ support though because I only use the very basics of that (well usually not even C++, just plain ol' C).
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
NO, I only turned to the Dark Side.... I am the Web Guy for our company and spent many a private hour hard coding in HTML in a note book format. I use Visual Web now, cos it is quicker and easier to bung up a page or two. It is like I have betrayed my training, and taken the easy way out. but truth be known, I have less time to do this shit. I am Company Accountant, Quantity Surveyor, IT guy and tomorrow morning I am off to site to bollock the site managers, that makes me an Operations Director. I have always wanted to be a director, and I am slowly stealing the role! But still and yet I am using Visual Web like a dirty whore on the street of cheap programmers! Please, forgive me my sins! :)
------------------------------------ "I want you to imagine I have a blaster in my hand" - Zaphod Beeblebrox. "You DO have a blaster in your hand" - Freighter Pilot "Yeah, so you don't have to tax your imagination too hard" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
modified on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:31 PM
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
Based on one of your articles I assume you are coding in C++ and MFC. Unfortunately for me as a MFC programmer, new versions of VS were all nightmare. At least 'Express' editions. If you are going to continue MFC, then please consider these: -You'll not have "class wizard" any longer. -The IDE is too much slower because of it's intellisense. Please don't ignore this specially if your CPU has 1 core. -Sometimes IDE crashes for no good reason: eg. In VS2008 try adding a class based on CRecordset, then select a dynamic connection to an odbc source, I bet it will crash. -Old codes will not work often. Due to changes to the compiler, most old codes have errors now. This is not such a big problem, unless in one of your project you use a liberary that has compatibility issues(which I believe many libs have) and there's not a new version available. -I was not able to find "Add window message handler" dialog. -etc.(There are a lot more) As an MFC programmer, I'm sometimes stocked in situations that I decide to leave MFC forever, then I remember steve balmer saying developers and think it will be sure solved?! For older versions, I cannot add new(?) SDKs(All sort of errors). If a library needs it, I have to use new versions of IDE where I face new problems. I sometimes choose another way: I code in VS6 and compile in new VS! better way is to create a batch file that calls new compiler so no need to the new IDE at all.
// "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
{
cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
I find the combination of VS2003 and VS2008 is a hard one to beat - the former lightweight and relatively fast, the latter more standards compliant (with the feature pack it even has TR1 support), DEP compatible and better at mixed mode debugging. The only time I open VC6 (:~) or VS2005 ( X| X| X| ) now is when one of our customers has a query involving them. There are a few things you should be aware of:
- VS2002 onwards are far more standards compliant than the obsolete compiler shipped with VC6. If you've not taken the time to at least identify the non-compliances in your code, now is the time to to do it. A copy of Effective C++[^] will teach you the baic things you need to look for (and PC-Lint[^] will actually find the issues for you, if you are interested in code analysis), but I can tell you from experience that the no. 1 gotcha you will face is invalid for-loop scoping.
- If you build any code which uses ATL windowing (CWindow or similar) the only versions of ATL which are fully compatible with Data Execution Prevention (DEP) are those shipped with VS2005 and VS2008 (this one forced us to migrate our builds to VS2008, FWIW).
- The only IDE which supports the MFC Feature Pack (Ribbon controls and the TR1 extensions to the Standard Lbrary) is VS2008.
- The C++ 0x Standard should be out next year and it is a major upgrade. We expect the successor to VS2008 to be a big change in terms of the libraries it supports.
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NO, I only turned to the Dark Side.... I am the Web Guy for our company and spent many a private hour hard coding in HTML in a note book format. I use Visual Web now, cos it is quicker and easier to bung up a page or two. It is like I have betrayed my training, and taken the easy way out. but truth be known, I have less time to do this shit. I am Company Accountant, Quantity Surveyor, IT guy and tomorrow morning I am off to site to bollock the site managers, that makes me an Operations Director. I have always wanted to be a director, and I am slowly stealing the role! But still and yet I am using Visual Web like a dirty whore on the street of cheap programmers! Please, forgive me my sins! :)
------------------------------------ "I want you to imagine I have a blaster in my hand" - Zaphod Beeblebrox. "You DO have a blaster in your hand" - Freighter Pilot "Yeah, so you don't have to tax your imagination too hard" - Zaphod Beeblebrox
modified on Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:31 PM
Dalek Dave wrote:
I have always wanted to be a director, and I am slowly stealing the role!
I'm the Founder, and believe me it doesn't get any easier. I have to wear more hats than I've ever thought possible, and I still end up doing things like fixing broken links on our site that our web designer missed... :|
Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
I'm currently working on VS6, VS2003 and vs2008 I think that vs2008 is the better of the 3. The only thing that I would have liked if you could compile .net 1.1 in vs2008.
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
I can only speak for C++ (desktop and embedded) -- VS2008... Crashes much less often than 2005 (which crashed almost once per hour, more often when adding classes = the usual suspect: Intelisense...). The debugger for VM5/6 are much faster in 2008 than in 2005 (relatively speaking of course -- it's not fast for any definition of the word). I recommend a fast machine (fast cpu, 2GB+ and fast harddiscs) and Whole Tomatoes "Visual Assist X". It makes a big difference...
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Which Anonymous font, their are loads of 'em.
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
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We are still using VS6 (ahh...FORTRAN integration.....), but at some point we'll have to make the leap to a newer IDE. Is there a concensus as to which flavour is better? Or should we just go to the newest (and best ? haha!)
VS 2008 works well. Intellisense is kind of broken for C++ though. It works 75% of the time (which is better than the 1% I got from VS 2005).
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Which Anonymous font, their are loads of 'em.