Dazed & Confused.. C# .NET .THIS .THAT
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Dear Dr.Phil, my head is spinning :wtf: with these new .asp, .net asp.net tools :confused:. Are these all one and the same found in VS.NET package. Is C# part of VS.NET ? Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. any gudiance appreciated, prozac and labotomy solutions welcomed. :zzz:
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Dear Dr.Phil, my head is spinning :wtf: with these new .asp, .net asp.net tools :confused:. Are these all one and the same found in VS.NET package. Is C# part of VS.NET ? Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. any gudiance appreciated, prozac and labotomy solutions welcomed. :zzz:
Yes, you can still create MFC applications using MFC7/ATL7/WTL7 that have nothing to do with .NET. This is one of the biggest points of confusion. You can use the C++ compiler of VS.NET without ever having to see any .NET code. Tim Smith "Programmers are always surrounded by complexity; we can not avoid it... If our basic tool, the language in which we design and code our programs, is also complicated, the language itself becomes part of the problem rather that part of the solution." Hoare - 1980 ACM Turing Award Lecture
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Dear Dr.Phil, my head is spinning :wtf: with these new .asp, .net asp.net tools :confused:. Are these all one and the same found in VS.NET package. Is C# part of VS.NET ? Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. any gudiance appreciated, prozac and labotomy solutions welcomed. :zzz:
Is C# part of VS.NET ? Yes. Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET Yes. can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. No, you can not write good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, but you can write good new MFC app (add maintain good upgraded MFC app) with mfc70.dll with this new framework. You don't need to care about .NET runtime files unless you use managed C++. Hope this helps. Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway
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Dear Dr.Phil, my head is spinning :wtf: with these new .asp, .net asp.net tools :confused:. Are these all one and the same found in VS.NET package. Is C# part of VS.NET ? Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. any gudiance appreciated, prozac and labotomy solutions welcomed. :zzz:
Thanks guys, Confucius not so confused now. went to MS's .NET site and still couldn't figure anything out about it. so then this .asp/.net stuff only comes into play if you're writing web apps and such.. so, the vs.net advertised on CodeProject is basically what you have explained, that will allow me to be 'backward' compatible and still allow me to play with the new techology. Pablo van der Meer's - "Matrix Credits Control" should read 'What is the .NET' Thanks for the response. :) Fred
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Dear Dr.Phil, my head is spinning :wtf: with these new .asp, .net asp.net tools :confused:. Are these all one and the same found in VS.NET package. Is C# part of VS.NET ? Can I still 'MFC' with VS.NET can i still write a good old MFC app with mfc60.dll with this new framework, and distrubute it without 150MB of .NET runtime files to my clients. any gudiance appreciated, prozac and labotomy solutions welcomed. :zzz:
Son, you're going to have to make some hard choices here. Do you want to stay with your old reliable and familiar life or do you want to step up to the bleeding edge and chance getting cut? Why don't you knock back a few beers and sleep on it. The answer is in your heart; you'll know it when you see it. Dr. Phil
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Son, you're going to have to make some hard choices here. Do you want to stay with your old reliable and familiar life or do you want to step up to the bleeding edge and chance getting cut? Why don't you knock back a few beers and sleep on it. The answer is in your heart; you'll know it when you see it. Dr. Phil
Ed Gadziemski wrote: Why don't you knock back a few beers and sleep on it Dr. Phil would never recommend that. The rest of your advice though is spot on. You sure you don't write for Dr. Phil*? * The reason I know is because Janina tells me all about what Dr. Phil says. No really, I don't watch Oprah, I swear! regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Ed Gadziemski wrote: Why don't you knock back a few beers and sleep on it Dr. Phil would never recommend that. The rest of your advice though is spot on. You sure you don't write for Dr. Phil*? * The reason I know is because Janina tells me all about what Dr. Phil says. No really, I don't watch Oprah, I swear! regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Who the heck is Dr. Phil? :confused: "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
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Son, you're going to have to make some hard choices here. Do you want to stay with your old reliable and familiar life or do you want to step up to the bleeding edge and chance getting cut? Why don't you knock back a few beers and sleep on it. The answer is in your heart; you'll know it when you see it. Dr. Phil
Dear Dr. Phil thanks for the response. i am and old school kinda of guy, i like things that work, that have been proven over time. Take for example the missionary position :wtf:, around for centuries.. still around, works, 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. I'm just searching for the meaning of '.NET', it seems noboby will ever know. I guess it's just one of those questions or songs.... "WAR, what's it good for, absolutely nothing" thanks PS: please send your invoice for your're services rendered C/O BG@MS For the pain and suffering consulting services of many.
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Who the heck is Dr. Phil? :confused: "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
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Who the heck is Dr. Phil? :confused: "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
Reverend Stan wrote: Who the heck is Dr. Phil? A a big, bald, doctor guy on the Oprah show who gives out tough love advice (bet I am scaring people by knowing this much about the Oprah show huh?) Come on Stan, live up to your stereotype damnit. All Americans know who Dr. Phil is, all American women wish their husbands thought like Dr. Phil and all American men want to strangle Dr. Phil. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Reverend Stan wrote: Who the heck is Dr. Phil? A a big, bald, doctor guy on the Oprah show who gives out tough love advice (bet I am scaring people by knowing this much about the Oprah show huh?) Come on Stan, live up to your stereotype damnit. All Americans know who Dr. Phil is, all American women wish their husbands thought like Dr. Phil and all American men want to strangle Dr. Phil. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: Come on Stan, live up to your stereotype damnit. All Americans know who Dr. Phil is, all American women wish their husbands thought like Dr. Phil and all American men want to strangle Dr. Phil. LOL. No, honestly, I've never heard of the guy. Of course, that's probably because if I'm listening to anything at that time of day it would be Rush Limbaugh on the radio. Sometimes culturally illiteracy is a good thang. I'll leave it to you furners to keep me up to speed on U.S. popular culture ;P "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
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Paul Watson wrote: Come on Stan, live up to your stereotype damnit. All Americans know who Dr. Phil is, all American women wish their husbands thought like Dr. Phil and all American men want to strangle Dr. Phil. LOL. No, honestly, I've never heard of the guy. Of course, that's probably because if I'm listening to anything at that time of day it would be Rush Limbaugh on the radio. Sometimes culturally illiteracy is a good thang. I'll leave it to you furners to keep me up to speed on U.S. popular culture ;P "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
Reverend Stan wrote: Sometimes culturally illiteracy is a good thang. I'll leave it to you furners to keep me up to speed on U.S. popular culture While I have never heard the term furners I can guess what it means. Actually the last time I watched a Soap Time Slot programme (like Loving, Oprah, Rickey Lake, Bold & The Repetitive) was in my last year of school while pretending to study my math work. I rarely get home before 7pm, and Soap time is long over. I just know about Dr. Phil because Janina watches Oprah and she is always telling me about Dr. Phil. She likes the way he cuts to the chase and gives out tough love, none of that soppy "Don't worry deary, it is not your fault you killed your children, it was your husbands, now go have a hot cuppa." I am remarkably clueless about pop-culture for someone my age. Who the hell is Pedreka Stormova? Friends my age rave about her. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
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Reverend Stan wrote: Sometimes culturally illiteracy is a good thang. I'll leave it to you furners to keep me up to speed on U.S. popular culture While I have never heard the term furners I can guess what it means. Actually the last time I watched a Soap Time Slot programme (like Loving, Oprah, Rickey Lake, Bold & The Repetitive) was in my last year of school while pretending to study my math work. I rarely get home before 7pm, and Soap time is long over. I just know about Dr. Phil because Janina watches Oprah and she is always telling me about Dr. Phil. She likes the way he cuts to the chase and gives out tough love, none of that soppy "Don't worry deary, it is not your fault you killed your children, it was your husbands, now go have a hot cuppa." I am remarkably clueless about pop-culture for someone my age. Who the hell is Pedreka Stormova? Friends my age rave about her. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Alison Pentland wrote: I now have an image of you in front of the mirror in the morning, wearing your knickers, socks and shoes trying to decided if they match!
Paul Watson wrote: While I have never heard the term furners I can guess what it means. Thats just my lame attempt at trying to live up to the stereotype of being an ignorant red-neck who can't spell foreigener. (And being from Oklahoma, that is about how I pronounce it :-O) "Human imagination has been sculpted by the universe within which it was born" Hmmmm...
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Dear Dr. Phil thanks for the response. i am and old school kinda of guy, i like things that work, that have been proven over time. Take for example the missionary position :wtf:, around for centuries.. still around, works, 'if it ain't broke don't fix it'. I'm just searching for the meaning of '.NET', it seems noboby will ever know. I guess it's just one of those questions or songs.... "WAR, what's it good for, absolutely nothing" thanks PS: please send your invoice for your're services rendered C/O BG@MS For the pain and suffering consulting services of many.
I'm just searching for the meaning of '.NET', it seems noboby will ever know. Actually, nobody will know the meaning of .net until it's too .late. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
