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  • _ _Damian S_

    Apart from pitch it and buy a new one... Have you done a "pull out, blow out and reseat" of all cards and ram? ie: Pull the cards/ram out, blow/vacuum the dust out and put the cards/ram back in.

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    I should have speicified.. its a laptop thats only a year old. I did do that stuff for the RAM, but not the HDD. I have loaded up StorageCraft and all my files are fine, so now I am thinking it is most likely RAM. Currently I am doing a full backup onto an external HDD and will wipe it and start fresh with a different XP install CD and see if that helps. The odd thing is it boots up ok a few times, then just craps itself.. wont even go in in safe mode.


    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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      After months and months of issues and bandaid fixes, my computer laptop finally gave out. Thank goodness all my important files (like my music, etc) were backed up... Even after a fresh install, it wont boot into windows properly :( When it finally does boot in, its error after error. When I was reinstalling, it had 2 or 3 errors when trying to load the windows setup program :( I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD. Any ideas? [Update]So I just went to try a fresh install again with a different CD. It has frozen on "Setup is starting windows"... thats the point after it loads all of the stuff it needs for the install and then is about to say Press Enter to install, R to repair......[/Update]


      "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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      JimBob SquarePants
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      Thunderbox666 wrote:

      I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD.

      I'm thinking you might want to check the cable for your harddrive. I used to build computers at uni for extra cash and spent the best part of a day trying to install windows on one with similar results before discovering that was the cause. Could save you a few pennies.

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        I should have speicified.. its a laptop thats only a year old. I did do that stuff for the RAM, but not the HDD. I have loaded up StorageCraft and all my files are fine, so now I am thinking it is most likely RAM. Currently I am doing a full backup onto an external HDD and will wipe it and start fresh with a different XP install CD and see if that helps. The odd thing is it boots up ok a few times, then just craps itself.. wont even go in in safe mode.


        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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        JimBob SquarePants
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        Damn it! too slow! A laptop is a different kettle of fish. can't help you there i'm afraid. A different install cd is a good idea though.

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          Damn it! too slow! A laptop is a different kettle of fish. can't help you there i'm afraid. A different install cd is a good idea though.

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          JimBob SquarePants wrote:

          A different install cd is a good idea though

          Apart from that im out of ideas... I have plenty of spare HDD's I can try, but no spare RAM All I can say is thank goodness its not my real laptop... Broken laptop: :) 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: :D 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen


          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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            I should have speicified.. its a laptop thats only a year old. I did do that stuff for the RAM, but not the HDD. I have loaded up StorageCraft and all my files are fine, so now I am thinking it is most likely RAM. Currently I am doing a full backup onto an external HDD and will wipe it and start fresh with a different XP install CD and see if that helps. The odd thing is it boots up ok a few times, then just craps itself.. wont even go in in safe mode.


            "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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            _Damian S_
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            Laptop you say? This might have been pertinent information!! :-\ Before you try your next build, go into the BIOS and choose the option that sets the most stable settings for you (if it gives you the option). Then, start putting the settings back one at a time until it craps itself. I assume you did a full NTFS format before your reinstall, not just a quick format?

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              After months and months of issues and bandaid fixes, my computer laptop finally gave out. Thank goodness all my important files (like my music, etc) were backed up... Even after a fresh install, it wont boot into windows properly :( When it finally does boot in, its error after error. When I was reinstalling, it had 2 or 3 errors when trying to load the windows setup program :( I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD. Any ideas? [Update]So I just went to try a fresh install again with a different CD. It has frozen on "Setup is starting windows"... thats the point after it loads all of the stuff it needs for the install and then is about to say Press Enter to install, R to repair......[/Update]


              "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

              modified on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:33 AM

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              Load up UBCD and do tests on various hardware components. We used that at one of my previous jobs where I fixed computers. Its a great tool.

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                Laptop you say? This might have been pertinent information!! :-\ Before you try your next build, go into the BIOS and choose the option that sets the most stable settings for you (if it gives you the option). Then, start putting the settings back one at a time until it craps itself. I assume you did a full NTFS format before your reinstall, not just a quick format?

                -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                _Damian S_ wrote:

                This might have been pertinent information!!

                I know. I havent had any coffee for the last couple of days as I am trying to cut down.... so forgive me if I seem out of it.


                "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                  _Damian S_ wrote:

                  This might have been pertinent information!!

                  I know. I havent had any coffee for the last couple of days as I am trying to cut down.... so forgive me if I seem out of it.


                  "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                  _Damian S_
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                  Repeat after me - "Caffeine is my friend"

                  -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                    Repeat after me - "Caffeine is my friend"

                    -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                    Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend mmmmmmmmmmm coffee :)


                    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                      Load up UBCD and do tests on various hardware components. We used that at one of my previous jobs where I fixed computers. Its a great tool.

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                      Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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                      • G Ghoditsttoawn

                        Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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                        I cant say I have done it on a laptop, but I dont see why it would be any different to a PC. Essentially a Laptop is a small PC with a battery.


                        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                          JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                          A different install cd is a good idea though

                          Apart from that im out of ideas... I have plenty of spare HDD's I can try, but no spare RAM All I can say is thank goodness its not my real laptop... Broken laptop: :) 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: :D 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen


                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                          :O Sounds like the Dell XPS gaming workhorse :D

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                            :O Sounds like the Dell XPS gaming workhorse :D

                            Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                            Thunderbox666
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                            10 points for Mark... :D Its a Dell XPS M1730


                            "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                              10 points for Mark... :D Its a Dell XPS M1730


                              "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                              damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                              Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                                damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                                Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                                MarkBrock wrote:

                                Is it worth the $$?

                                Definitly... The only issue I have had was the nVidia drivers freeze at times on Vista, however (as much as I hate Vista) I must give Vista credit for the way it recovers from crashes like that. There is a downside to so much power however... Battery life. I only get about 1.5hrs off the 9cell

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                                I assume you got the $3100 model?

                                I cant remember the price. I got it through salary sacrifice at one of my jobs, and it only ended up costing a little over $2k :D

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                                either a high end Inspiron or the XPS

                                I went from and Inspriron 9400 to the XPS... Best change I ever made.


                                "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                  JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                  A different install cd is a good idea though

                                  Apart from that im out of ideas... I have plenty of spare HDD's I can try, but no spare RAM All I can say is thank goodness its not my real laptop... Broken laptop: :) 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: :D 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen


                                  "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                  Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                  Broken laptop: 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen

                                  That's so unfair! Did you actually buy that in Oz? I'm here travelling at the moment and had to buy a laptop when I first got here. Got it in Harvey Norman in Albany (still jet-lagged I guess, didn't know any better). $1100 and less powerful than your broken one! :((

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                                    Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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                                    JimBob SquarePants
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                                    I'm running vista ultimate and windows xp professional on my one. Dead easy to set up, just shrink one partition create a new one, install your other OS on the partition and set up your boot record. I'd seriously recommend sticking EasyBCD[^] on a flashdrive first to repair your bootrecord if necessary afterward.

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                                      Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                      Broken laptop: 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen

                                      That's so unfair! Did you actually buy that in Oz? I'm here travelling at the moment and had to buy a laptop when I first got here. Got it in Harvey Norman in Albany (still jet-lagged I guess, didn't know any better). $1100 and less powerful than your broken one! :((

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                                      Thunderbox666
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                                      JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                      Did you actually buy that in Oz?

                                      Yeah.. Bought from Dell

                                      JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                      Got it in Harvey Norman

                                      Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                      JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                      less powerful than your broken one! :((

                                      Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the one I just recently gave to my dad lol... dont worry.. it isn't better then my good one, however it is better then my broken one


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                                        damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                                        Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                                        Andy_L_J
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                                        Mark, I bought an Inspiron 1720, 3Gb RAM, NVidia 256 Graphics etc. Running Vista, VS2005, VS2008, SQL Server 2005, SQL Server 2008, ... A great machine. They have them for around AUD2000 on line. :-D

                                        I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                                          JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                          Did you actually buy that in Oz?

                                          Yeah.. Bought from Dell

                                          JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                          Got it in Harvey Norman

                                          Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                          JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                          less powerful than your broken one! :((

                                          Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the one I just recently gave to my dad lol... dont worry.. it isn't better then my good one, however it is better then my broken one


                                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                          Andy_L_J
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                                          Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                          Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                          I second that 100%...yet my wife continues to buy crap there...and my brother is a warehouse manager. :sigh:

                                          I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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