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  • T Thunderbox666

    After months and months of issues and bandaid fixes, my computer laptop finally gave out. Thank goodness all my important files (like my music, etc) were backed up... Even after a fresh install, it wont boot into windows properly :( When it finally does boot in, its error after error. When I was reinstalling, it had 2 or 3 errors when trying to load the windows setup program :( I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD. Any ideas? [Update]So I just went to try a fresh install again with a different CD. It has frozen on "Setup is starting windows"... thats the point after it loads all of the stuff it needs for the install and then is about to say Press Enter to install, R to repair......[/Update]


    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

    modified on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:33 AM

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    CaptainSeeSarp
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    Load up UBCD and do tests on various hardware components. We used that at one of my previous jobs where I fixed computers. Its a great tool.

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      Laptop you say? This might have been pertinent information!! :-\ Before you try your next build, go into the BIOS and choose the option that sets the most stable settings for you (if it gives you the option). Then, start putting the settings back one at a time until it craps itself. I assume you did a full NTFS format before your reinstall, not just a quick format?

      -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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      _Damian S_ wrote:

      This might have been pertinent information!!

      I know. I havent had any coffee for the last couple of days as I am trying to cut down.... so forgive me if I seem out of it.


      "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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        _Damian S_ wrote:

        This might have been pertinent information!!

        I know. I havent had any coffee for the last couple of days as I am trying to cut down.... so forgive me if I seem out of it.


        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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        Repeat after me - "Caffeine is my friend"

        -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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          Repeat after me - "Caffeine is my friend"

          -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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          Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend Caffeine is my friend mmmmmmmmmmm coffee :)


          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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            Load up UBCD and do tests on various hardware components. We used that at one of my previous jobs where I fixed computers. Its a great tool.

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            Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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              Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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              I cant say I have done it on a laptop, but I dont see why it would be any different to a PC. Essentially a Laptop is a small PC with a battery.


              "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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              • T Thunderbox666

                JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                A different install cd is a good idea though

                Apart from that im out of ideas... I have plenty of spare HDD's I can try, but no spare RAM All I can say is thank goodness its not my real laptop... Broken laptop: :) 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: :D 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen


                "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                :O Sounds like the Dell XPS gaming workhorse :D

                Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                  :O Sounds like the Dell XPS gaming workhorse :D

                  Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                  10 points for Mark... :D Its a Dell XPS M1730


                  "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                    10 points for Mark... :D Its a Dell XPS M1730


                    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                    MarkB777
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                    damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                    Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                      damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                      Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                      MarkBrock wrote:

                      Is it worth the $$?

                      Definitly... The only issue I have had was the nVidia drivers freeze at times on Vista, however (as much as I hate Vista) I must give Vista credit for the way it recovers from crashes like that. There is a downside to so much power however... Battery life. I only get about 1.5hrs off the 9cell

                      MarkBrock wrote:

                      I assume you got the $3100 model?

                      I cant remember the price. I got it through salary sacrifice at one of my jobs, and it only ended up costing a little over $2k :D

                      MarkBrock wrote:

                      either a high end Inspiron or the XPS

                      I went from and Inspriron 9400 to the XPS... Best change I ever made.


                      "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                      • T Thunderbox666

                        JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                        A different install cd is a good idea though

                        Apart from that im out of ideas... I have plenty of spare HDD's I can try, but no spare RAM All I can say is thank goodness its not my real laptop... Broken laptop: :) 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: :D 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen


                        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                        JimBob SquarePants
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                        Thunderbox666 wrote:

                        Broken laptop: 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen

                        That's so unfair! Did you actually buy that in Oz? I'm here travelling at the moment and had to buy a laptop when I first got here. Got it in Harvey Norman in Albany (still jet-lagged I guess, didn't know any better). $1100 and less powerful than your broken one! :((

                        JimBob SquarePants ******************************************************************* "He took everything personally, including our royalties!" David St.Hubbins, Spinal Tap about Ian Faith, their ex-manager *******************************************************************

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                          Hi all ... Now that this topic is being discussed ... I was wondering if installing multiple operating systems on a laptop is any different from installing them on a desktop pc? I mean, is there any additional difficulty or problem in it? I heard someone say so once but no other info about it ... This looks like a good place for asking ...

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                          JimBob SquarePants
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                          I'm running vista ultimate and windows xp professional on my one. Dead easy to set up, just shrink one partition create a new one, install your other OS on the partition and set up your boot record. I'd seriously recommend sticking EasyBCD[^] on a flashdrive first to repair your bootrecord if necessary afterward.

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                            Thunderbox666 wrote:

                            Broken laptop: 2gb RAM Core2Duo 2ghz 120gb HDD Dvd Burner 15 inch screen X1300 256mb Graphics Real laptop: 4GB RAM Core2Duo 2.6ghz 2 x 320GB 7200rpm HDD's Blu-Ray Burner 2 x 8700GT 512MB Graphics + Physx Card 17 inch Hi-Res (1920 x 1200) screen

                            That's so unfair! Did you actually buy that in Oz? I'm here travelling at the moment and had to buy a laptop when I first got here. Got it in Harvey Norman in Albany (still jet-lagged I guess, didn't know any better). $1100 and less powerful than your broken one! :((

                            JimBob SquarePants ******************************************************************* "He took everything personally, including our royalties!" David St.Hubbins, Spinal Tap about Ian Faith, their ex-manager *******************************************************************

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                            JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                            Did you actually buy that in Oz?

                            Yeah.. Bought from Dell

                            JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                            Got it in Harvey Norman

                            Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                            JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                            less powerful than your broken one! :((

                            Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the one I just recently gave to my dad lol... dont worry.. it isn't better then my good one, however it is better then my broken one


                            "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                              damn, Is it worth the $$? I assume you got the $3100 model? I was looking at getting either a high end Inspiron or the XPS.

                              Mark Brock Click here to view my blog

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                              Andy_L_J
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                              Mark, I bought an Inspiron 1720, 3Gb RAM, NVidia 256 Graphics etc. Running Vista, VS2005, VS2008, SQL Server 2005, SQL Server 2008, ... A great machine. They have them for around AUD2000 on line. :-D

                              I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                              • T Thunderbox666

                                JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                Did you actually buy that in Oz?

                                Yeah.. Bought from Dell

                                JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                Got it in Harvey Norman

                                Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                less powerful than your broken one! :((

                                Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the one I just recently gave to my dad lol... dont worry.. it isn't better then my good one, however it is better then my broken one


                                "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                Andy_L_J
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                                Thunderbox666 wrote:

                                Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                I second that 100%...yet my wife continues to buy crap there...and my brother is a warehouse manager. :sigh:

                                I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly

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                                  JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                  Did you actually buy that in Oz?

                                  Yeah.. Bought from Dell

                                  JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                  Got it in Harvey Norman

                                  Harvey Norman = Rip Off

                                  JimBob SquarePants wrote:

                                  less powerful than your broken one! :((

                                  Maybe I shouldn't tell you about the one I just recently gave to my dad lol... dont worry.. it isn't better then my good one, however it is better then my broken one


                                  "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                  JimBob SquarePants
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                                  Them's the breaks I suppose.... :( I saw an Identical one to mine in melbourne the other day $799 I nearly punched the guy in the shop. I bought a gig of ram for mine from another shop cos I only had 1G and VS was crying. Opened it up to find both my slots had 512meg in them. Essentially paid for $40 for 512meg not impressed. Cheap, cheap ^%$$##!

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                                  • T Thunderbox666

                                    After months and months of issues and bandaid fixes, my computer laptop finally gave out. Thank goodness all my important files (like my music, etc) were backed up... Even after a fresh install, it wont boot into windows properly :( When it finally does boot in, its error after error. When I was reinstalling, it had 2 or 3 errors when trying to load the windows setup program :( I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD. Any ideas? [Update]So I just went to try a fresh install again with a different CD. It has frozen on "Setup is starting windows"... thats the point after it loads all of the stuff it needs for the install and then is about to say Press Enter to install, R to repair......[/Update]


                                    "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

                                    modified on Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:33 AM

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                                    Simon P Stevens
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                                    When my laptop first died it was one of the RAM sticks. Exactly the same symptoms you are talking about. Temporarily resurected it it by removing the faulty one and running with only 1 stick. (It died completly a few months later when something power related gave up and it just wouldn't even power on. Even a spare power pack made no difference).

                                    Simon

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                                      I'm running vista ultimate and windows xp professional on my one. Dead easy to set up, just shrink one partition create a new one, install your other OS on the partition and set up your boot record. I'd seriously recommend sticking EasyBCD[^] on a flashdrive first to repair your bootrecord if necessary afterward.

                                      JimBob SquarePants ******************************************************************* "He took everything personally, including our royalties!" David St.Hubbins, Spinal Tap about Ian Faith, their ex-manager *******************************************************************

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                                      Ghoditsttoawn
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                                      Thanks - I'll try this ... :)

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                                      • T Thunderbox666

                                        After months and months of issues and bandaid fixes, my computer laptop finally gave out. Thank goodness all my important files (like my music, etc) were backed up... Even after a fresh install, it wont boot into windows properly :( When it finally does boot in, its error after error. When I was reinstalling, it had 2 or 3 errors when trying to load the windows setup program :( I dont know what the problem is, im thinking RAM or HDD. Any ideas? [Update]So I just went to try a fresh install again with a different CD. It has frozen on "Setup is starting windows"... thats the point after it loads all of the stuff it needs for the install and then is about to say Press Enter to install, R to repair......[/Update]


                                        "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                        I recently was asked to reinstall the O/S on my neighbour's laptop as she was having problems with it switching itself off, BSOD errors etc and suspected a virus infection. While trying to reinstall XP the system kept shutting itself down part way through the install process - I eventually tracked it down to an overheating problem - the processor was probably running at full speed during install and after a few minutes of this the machine's overheat protection was kicking in and cutting the power. I then discovered that the fan air intake grille was about 25% clogged by cigarette smoke residue, restricting the air flow. A minute with a stiff paintbrush soon cleared the clogging and after this everything worked properly again.

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                                        • T Thunderbox666

                                          I should have speicified.. its a laptop thats only a year old. I did do that stuff for the RAM, but not the HDD. I have loaded up StorageCraft and all my files are fine, so now I am thinking it is most likely RAM. Currently I am doing a full backup onto an external HDD and will wipe it and start fresh with a different XP install CD and see if that helps. The odd thing is it boots up ok a few times, then just craps itself.. wont even go in in safe mode.


                                          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown "All things good to know are difficult to learn" ~ Greek Proverb "The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary" ~ Vidal Sassoon

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                                          Mike Dimmick
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                                          If it's a year-old Dell, why aren't you talking this through with Dell support? Did you only get a one-year warranty?

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