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Do you pick the technology and the tools for your job?

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  • S Simon P Stevens

    I can pretty much pick everything. I can't pick the client environment in most cases though. All company personal pcs are windows xp, so I have to write for that. I pick everything I use though. One current example. They were using visual source safe. I've decided that it sucks. I'm going to switch to something else (probably svn, but need to look into it) at the end of the current project. I don't control the budget though, I have to justify any choice that requires a big spend to my management.

    Simon

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    Harvey Saayman
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    Simon Stevens wrote:

    probably svn

    i use SVN, open source so naturally a powerful tool with quite the learning curve... especially if you've never worked with version control software like myself :)

    Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

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      ah yup :) im a single developer for a company with +- R40mil turn over the last financial year... i pretty much get what i want, maby because my boss (the IT director) only codes in 0's and 1's.... oh and clarion but i think its the same thing :rolleyes: so natuaraly i talk circles around him and he has no idea how i do my job so if i need books overnighted, i get them :) if i need tools, i get them... just last week i asked for CodeRush (saw the add for it here on CP) and i got it

      Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

      you.suck = (you.passion != Programming)

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      Bassam Saoud
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      HarveySaayman wrote:

      Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

      You are a junior developer without a senior or suprivisor.Now that is cool buddy :)

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      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

        For nearly every contract I get the pseudo title architect. I can't pick what to wear (corporate attire rules apply), I can't pick which version of .NET to use, I can't pick which deployment method, I can't pick the colors or fonts on the applications, I can't choose the text, I can't choose the code style, I even had a place complaint that I *gasp* write comments in code (their choice was comments shouldn't be in code because it makes it too hard to read), about the only choice I ever get is what screen resolution I can use (and that is kind of dictated by the LCD) One of these days I will be allowed to make a decision without a meeting and I won't know how to handle it.

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        Pawel Krakowiak
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        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

        I even had a place complaint that I *gasp* write comments in code (their choice was comments shouldn't be in code because it makes it too hard to read)

        So... Where do they put them? You have a comments.txt or something? :-D Surely, there are some comments... somewhere... right..?

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        • B Bassam Saoud

          HarveySaayman wrote:

          Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

          You are a junior developer without a senior or suprivisor.Now that is cool buddy :)

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          Harvey Saayman
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          i totaly agree! but thats the way it is :) luckily i have my friends here at CP to bounce ideas off of and get help so its cool and also id like to add that im a junior on paper while my skill level is way above someone else with double my experience

          Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

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            HarveySaayman wrote:

            Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

            You are a junior developer without a senior or suprivisor.Now that is cool buddy :)

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            Harvey Saayman
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            Bassam Saoud wrote:

            Now that is cool buddy

            oops, i read "Now that is NOT cool"... its not actually, having no guidance sux sometimes but i always solve the problems eventually and because i do it myself i think ill remember it for a lo0o0o0ong time :)

            Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL

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            • S Shog9 0

              I can run pretty much whatever i want on my dev machines. But when it comes to the build system, source control, platform and compilers, that's a toss-up between group decisions, company policy, and Tradition.

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              Paul Watson
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              Tradition![^]

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                While reading Jim Crafton's rant below, one question came to my mind. How many developers actually can select the technology and/or tools they work with? In my case, I am free to use any code editor and debugger, also a scripting language for various ad-hoc tools I build occasionally, but things like the development platform, build system, and code control system are determined by my employer. Can you actually make a decision like: "I am fed up with X - from now on I'll use Y for my development"?

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                Paul Watson
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                Yes; Language, framework, OS, IDE/text-editor, dev machines, servers, monitors, build system, chair, desk, office, debugger No; Code repo (svn, I'd choose svn anyway), document repo (Perforce), bug tracking (bugzilla), task tracking (xplanner) I've got it pretty good. Except for the bugzilla and xplanner bit, I detest those two tools.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                  While reading Jim Crafton's rant below, one question came to my mind. How many developers actually can select the technology and/or tools they work with? In my case, I am free to use any code editor and debugger, also a scripting language for various ad-hoc tools I build occasionally, but things like the development platform, build system, and code control system are determined by my employer. Can you actually make a decision like: "I am fed up with X - from now on I'll use Y for my development"?

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                  vegeta4ss
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                  Unfortunate for me I have to continue to use what management and our clients agree on. It's all over the board too, older clients have older development environments and when they want something it's twice as hard to make it work. I only wish I had a choice..

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                  • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                    While reading Jim Crafton's rant below, one question came to my mind. How many developers actually can select the technology and/or tools they work with? In my case, I am free to use any code editor and debugger, also a scripting language for various ad-hoc tools I build occasionally, but things like the development platform, build system, and code control system are determined by my employer. Can you actually make a decision like: "I am fed up with X - from now on I'll use Y for my development"?

                    Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                    z974647
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                    We get to pick some, like Ultra Edit and Red Gate tools.

                    What does an agnostic, dyslexic, insomniac do? He lies awake at night wondering if there's a dog.

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                    • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                      While reading Jim Crafton's rant below, one question came to my mind. How many developers actually can select the technology and/or tools they work with? In my case, I am free to use any code editor and debugger, also a scripting language for various ad-hoc tools I build occasionally, but things like the development platform, build system, and code control system are determined by my employer. Can you actually make a decision like: "I am fed up with X - from now on I'll use Y for my development"?

                      Programming Blog utf8-cpp

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                      tsdragon
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                      My boss makes the major decisions about languages and platforms, but within that I'm free to use my choice of style, libraries, tools, etc. I've also got a lot of input into design decisions. I also get to wear jeans, boots and t-shirts to work. I love working for a small company!

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        For nearly every contract I get the pseudo title architect. I can't pick what to wear (corporate attire rules apply), I can't pick which version of .NET to use, I can't pick which deployment method, I can't pick the colors or fonts on the applications, I can't choose the text, I can't choose the code style, I even had a place complaint that I *gasp* write comments in code (their choice was comments shouldn't be in code because it makes it too hard to read), about the only choice I ever get is what screen resolution I can use (and that is kind of dictated by the LCD) One of these days I will be allowed to make a decision without a meeting and I won't know how to handle it.

                        Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                        Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                        One of these days I will be allowed to make a decision without a meeting and I won't know how to handle it.

                        You can outsource this to me, your experienced and skillful decisionmaking contractor.

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