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  • realJSOPR realJSOP
    1. The best card available on the market will be SIGNIFICANTLY eclipsed the week after you buy it. 2) Buy the best one you can possibly afford. 3) Don't buy the bullshit about games not taking advantage of this card or that card. The ultimate measurement of a gaming card is the FPS and quality. You'll always get the best FPS and best image quality with the most expensive card. The Ti 4600 is the asolute best available for games, no question about it. However.... 4) You're a developer. If you use higher desktop resolutions (1280x1024 or better), you're better off with an ATI card than a card from nVidia. It's a known fact that the nVidia cards are not nearly as crisp in 2D as ATI is. 5) The ATI Radeon 9700 will be out next month (August). Get one, and don't cheap out with an OEM version - get one made *by ATI* and that comes in a retail box. That's the ONLY way to guarantee you get a decent one the first time out of the blocks. The 9700 also out-scores the Ti4600 in games (sometimes by as much as 50% BETTER scores). Of course, you don't have to listen to me, but keep in mind that I've been hand-building my own systems since 1986. I've had to choose between nVidia and ATI a few times in the recent past, and I chose (and will continue to choose) ATI, simply because the 2D is much better. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends
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    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 4) You're a developer. If you use higher desktop resolutions (1280x1024 or better), you're better off with an ATI card than a card from nVidia. It's a known fact that the nVidia cards are not nearly as crisp in 2D as ATI is. In this case, I would recommend neither NVidia nor ATI, but Matrox. They have by far the best image quality. Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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      a.r.f. wrote: I'm sure that all of the other readers here are as grateful as I am to have such information referenced at the 100% English language CodeProject website I beg your pardon. How could I post a link to a German site? How ignorant I am... Ok, after some searching I've found an article at DigiTimes [^] If you would like a translation of the original link, try babelfish [^]. It's really funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: BTW, according to demographics.asp at least 2.8% of CPians are German. And because I know Stefan is German too, I've posted that link to a German news site. Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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      Thanks for the English information :) I just thought it was less than useful to to provide the information as a link to a German site in the context of an overwhelmingly English discussion forum. Yes, I could have run it through a translator. However, a brief English description of the article would have been more useful to me and many others.


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      • T Thomas Freudenberg

        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: 4) You're a developer. If you use higher desktop resolutions (1280x1024 or better), you're better off with an ATI card than a card from nVidia. It's a known fact that the nVidia cards are not nearly as crisp in 2D as ATI is. In this case, I would recommend neither NVidia nor ATI, but Matrox. They have by far the best image quality. Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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        Mark A
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        Wait a month until the new ATI card comes out. It looks like a impressive card. The retail for it is targeted for 150.00 usd. So even if you dont choose to get the ati card, its low cost and appeal may drive the price of the gforce cards down.

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          a.r.f. wrote: I'm sure that all of the other readers here are as grateful as I am to have such information referenced at the 100% English language CodeProject website I beg your pardon. How could I post a link to a German site? How ignorant I am... Ok, after some searching I've found an article at DigiTimes [^] If you would like a translation of the original link, try babelfish [^]. It's really funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: BTW, according to demographics.asp at least 2.8% of CPians are German. And because I know Stefan is German too, I've posted that link to a German news site. Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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          The babelfish translation is pretty bad :laugh:


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            I think about buying a new 3D graphics cards for my Athlon 1,2Ghz. Currenty I use a GeForce 2 MX-400 with 64Megs of RAM. It's enough speed so far, but I heard the newer generation cards like the GeForce4TI or the Radeon 8xxx series feature more fancy graphic quality like some Pixel shader stuff and so on that my card doesn't. So what do you suggest? Waiting for the next gen of cards, or buying a new one now? When I was young my mother told me to clean up my room, I told her -1!

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            Stefan Spenz wrote: So what do you suggest? Waiting for the next gen of cards, or buying a new one now? Buy a PS2, play games not available for the PC, and, when your PC cannot handle new games, change the card. Concussus surgo. When struck I rise.

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              The babelfish translation is pretty bad :laugh:


              "If lobsters looked more like puppies, people wouldn't put them in boiling water while they're still alive." - George Carlin

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              a.r.f. wrote: The babelfish translation is pretty bad I really like the Diagram maps, which should be Graphic cards. :laugh: Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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              • S Stefan Spenz

                I think about buying a new 3D graphics cards for my Athlon 1,2Ghz. Currenty I use a GeForce 2 MX-400 with 64Megs of RAM. It's enough speed so far, but I heard the newer generation cards like the GeForce4TI or the Radeon 8xxx series feature more fancy graphic quality like some Pixel shader stuff and so on that my card doesn't. So what do you suggest? Waiting for the next gen of cards, or buying a new one now? When I was young my mother told me to clean up my room, I told her -1!

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                I guess it depends on your game-playing habits. I have a GF2, but haven't been buying any games lately that require a powerful graphics card, so everything I have runs at 60+ fps. Not much incentive for me to upgrade. ------------------------------------------ When I was a kid, I used to pray every night for a new bicycle. Then I realized that the Lord, in his wisdom, didn't work that way. So I just stole one and asked him to forgive me. - Emo Phillips

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                • M Mark A

                  Wait a month until the new ATI card comes out. It looks like a impressive card. The retail for it is targeted for 150.00 usd. So even if you dont choose to get the ati card, its low cost and appeal may drive the price of the gforce cards down.

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                  Atlantys
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                  You been the 9000/9700 series (ie: R250/R300)? That was just released last week. And, let's put it this way: it KILLS the GF4Ti4600, and costs less.

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                  • T Thomas Freudenberg

                    a.r.f. wrote: I'm sure that all of the other readers here are as grateful as I am to have such information referenced at the 100% English language CodeProject website I beg your pardon. How could I post a link to a German site? How ignorant I am... Ok, after some searching I've found an article at DigiTimes [^] If you would like a translation of the original link, try babelfish [^]. It's really funny :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: BTW, according to demographics.asp at least 2.8% of CPians are German. And because I know Stefan is German too, I've posted that link to a German news site. Regards Thomas Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi


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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    Thomas Freudenberg wrote: try babelfish [^]. It's really funny Ever thought Rammstein lyrics were fun/bizarre? Just run them through babelfish and you'll go :omg::wtf::laugh::eek: X| :wtf::omg: FreeBSD is sexy. Getting closer and closer to actually submit an article...

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                    • S Stefan Spenz

                      I think about buying a new 3D graphics cards for my Athlon 1,2Ghz. Currenty I use a GeForce 2 MX-400 with 64Megs of RAM. It's enough speed so far, but I heard the newer generation cards like the GeForce4TI or the Radeon 8xxx series feature more fancy graphic quality like some Pixel shader stuff and so on that my card doesn't. So what do you suggest? Waiting for the next gen of cards, or buying a new one now? When I was young my mother told me to clean up my room, I told her -1!

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                      The geforce 4200 128mb is the best bang for the buck right now. The 4200 has all the features as the top-o-the-line 4600 but is a tad bit slower. Todd Smith

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