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  • A Anthony Mushrow

    :omg: But that would be... it would be wrong!

    My current favourite word is: I'm starting to run out of fav. words!

    -SK Genius

    Game Programming articles start -here[^]-

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    Mladen Jankovic
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    SK Genius wrote:

    But that would be... it would be wrong!

    So it's perfect for the business.

    Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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    • N NormDroid

      Narrrh Punch cards, or ticker tape.

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Let's have none of this new-fangled stuff. Flip switches and programming in binary - that's the way to do it.

      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

      My blog | My articles

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      • J Jim Warburton

        hammerstein05 wrote:

        I want to know what's going to happen to the data?

        Viacom will look at it and decide what it is people watch and make production decisions accordingly.

        this thing looks like it was written by an epileptic ferret Dave Kreskowiak

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        Steve Mayfield
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        Oh my! :doh: More shows with "Man with Bee beard" and girls heads exploding after popping Mentos & Pepsi and shaking vigorously :sigh: oh, and don't forget video showing child hitting dad where it hurts :ouch: - America's Funniest Home Video Channel 24/7/365 ...

        Steve

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        • P Paul Conrad

          Norm .net wrote:

          Narrrh Punch cards

          Yes. I'll be a man and admit it, shame on me for not mentioning punch cards :-O

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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          bdenton42
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          Paul Conrad wrote:

          Norm .net wrote: Narrrh Punch cards Yes. I'll be a man and admit it, shame on me for not mentioning punch cards

          That would be about 165 billion cards, which at your typical 250cpm punch rate would take 1255 years to punch. Google should get started.

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            Paul Conrad wrote:

            Norm .net wrote: Narrrh Punch cards Yes. I'll be a man and admit it, shame on me for not mentioning punch cards

            That would be about 165 billion cards, which at your typical 250cpm punch rate would take 1255 years to punch. Google should get started.

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            Paul Conrad
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            bdenton42 wrote:

            Google should get started.

            Yep. [snaps fingers a few times] :-\

            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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            • M Member 96

              Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.[^] Apparently it's 12 Terrabytes of data. If I was Google I'd hand it over in 5 and a quarter inch floppy disks. :)


              "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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              leckey 0
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              And don't use both sides. Man, they are going to think I'm obsessed with squirrels.

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                And don't use both sides. Man, they are going to think I'm obsessed with squirrels.

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                Super Lloyd
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                American squirrels or European squirrels? ;P

                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                • P Pete OHanlon

                  Let's have none of this new-fangled stuff. Flip switches and programming in binary - that's the way to do it.

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                  My blog | My articles

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                  Oakman
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Flip switches and programming in binary

                  They'll need to use the inside cover of Astounding so they can order one of these^ They ship it to Sony, Sony reads the data and ships it back; then they program in the next 4K of info . . .

                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                    And don't use both sides. Man, they are going to think I'm obsessed with squirrels.

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                    Lost User
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                    leckey wrote:

                    Man, they are going to think I'm obsessed with squirrels.

                    Im sure they'll find many more people obsessed with beavers

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                    • S Super Lloyd

                      American squirrels or European squirrels? ;P

                      A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                      leckey 0
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                      I just type "squirrel." We have red and grey here in South Dakota. The black ones are more to the south. We also have what is called a 13-striped ground squirrel which is like a tiny, tiny prairie dog. Where I used to live I had a large squirrel colony. They were always running across my roof between the maple trees in the front and back. Where I live now we had one large red squirrel but he got run over this last winter. I have a grey one that visits sometimes. This spring I was painting the privacy fence and heard a scritch-scritch-scritch. I expected a baby bird to come over the fence. Nope. Just a large squirrel. We looked at each other for a few seconds and then the robins chased him out of the yard. On youtube I also query often of "racoon" and "cockatoo." However, I don't have an account so I guess I won't be part of their search. Whew!

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                        leckey wrote:

                        Man, they are going to think I'm obsessed with squirrels.

                        Im sure they'll find many more people obsessed with beavers

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                        leckey 0
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                        Oh why didn't I think of that! :laugh:

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                          I just type "squirrel." We have red and grey here in South Dakota. The black ones are more to the south. We also have what is called a 13-striped ground squirrel which is like a tiny, tiny prairie dog. Where I used to live I had a large squirrel colony. They were always running across my roof between the maple trees in the front and back. Where I live now we had one large red squirrel but he got run over this last winter. I have a grey one that visits sometimes. This spring I was painting the privacy fence and heard a scritch-scritch-scritch. I expected a baby bird to come over the fence. Nope. Just a large squirrel. We looked at each other for a few seconds and then the robins chased him out of the yard. On youtube I also query often of "racoon" and "cockatoo." However, I don't have an account so I guess I won't be part of their search. Whew!

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                          Super Lloyd
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                          Impressive! I was just trying to be inspired by the Monthy Python's Holy Grail where King Arthur ask 'Which kind of Sparrow' when ask for the speed of such bird! ;-) But no worries! BTW, where I lived, there was never much squirrels, but since I'm in Australia, there is always heaps of Oppossum around, some times fighting on the roof! I guess they are our local squirrels!

                          A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                            Impressive! I was just trying to be inspired by the Monthy Python's Holy Grail where King Arthur ask 'Which kind of Sparrow' when ask for the speed of such bird! ;-) But no worries! BTW, where I lived, there was never much squirrels, but since I'm in Australia, there is always heaps of Oppossum around, some times fighting on the roof! I guess they are our local squirrels!

                            A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                            leckey 0
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                            My ex's father (from Aus) used to call me possum because of my long fringe (bangs for US people). You should look up the US possum; they are HIDEOUS compared to the Aussie version. When my friends from Aus visited the US they were mesmerized by the squirrels. I thought it was funny; but then again, most visitors to Aus find kangaroos cool. I've spend enough time there to equate them to the deer. Stupid, stupid, animal!

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                              Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.[^] Apparently it's 12 Terrabytes of data. If I was Google I'd hand it over in 5 and a quarter inch floppy disks. :)


                              "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                              leppie
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                              Why floppies? Let them print it out, in color!

                              xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                              IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                Impressive! I was just trying to be inspired by the Monthy Python's Holy Grail where King Arthur ask 'Which kind of Sparrow' when ask for the speed of such bird! ;-) But no worries! BTW, where I lived, there was never much squirrels, but since I'm in Australia, there is always heaps of Oppossum around, some times fighting on the roof! I guess they are our local squirrels!

                                A train station is where the train stops. A bus station is where the bus stops. On my desk, I have a work station.... _________________________________________________________ My programs never have bugs, they just develop random features.

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                                Stuart Dootson
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                                Super Lloyd wrote:

                                Which kind of Sparrow

                                Swallow, surely (nit-pick, nit-pick!) :-)

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                                  Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.[^] Apparently it's 12 Terrabytes of data. If I was Google I'd hand it over in 5 and a quarter inch floppy disks. :)


                                  "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  I'm a British subject, so retrieving electronically stored personal information about me without my permission is prosecutable under law. If enough of us make a fuss, Viacom will find its costs rising quite dramatically. And how will governments like that of China feel about a US corporation poring over/pawing through personal information of their people? + Adding my vote for punch-cards.

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                                    Google must divulge the viewing habits of every user who has ever watched any video on YouTube, a US court has ruled.[^] Apparently it's 12 Terrabytes of data. If I was Google I'd hand it over in 5 and a quarter inch floppy disks. :)


                                    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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                                    Nagy Vilmos
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                                    Nah, give 'em a print out... :laugh:


                                    Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.

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                                    • M Mark_Wallace

                                      I'm a British subject, so retrieving electronically stored personal information about me without my permission is prosecutable under law. If enough of us make a fuss, Viacom will find its costs rising quite dramatically. And how will governments like that of China feel about a US corporation poring over/pawing through personal information of their people? + Adding my vote for punch-cards.

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                                      Simon P Stevens
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                                      I'm with you. If viacom want it for the reasons they claim there is on reason why the data can't be annonymised. Why do they need actual IP addresses and user names. Why not just a list of videos and unique view counts. They clearly want it for something more suspect. Personally, I'm not actually clear what's illegal and what isn't on YouTube. I've looked up music videos and stuff like that. Are they illegal? They're awful quality and I don't make any attempt to download and keep them. Generally I look them up to get an idea of new bands I might like - that little similar videos bar is cool for this kind of thing. (So actually benefits the music industry) What about immature comedy videos with backing music? I bet the creators don't have broadcast licenses, are these illegal?

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                                      • P Paul Conrad

                                        Norm .net wrote:

                                        Narrrh Punch cards

                                        Yes. I'll be a man and admit it, shame on me for not mentioning punch cards :-O

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                        Al Gorythm
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                                        I think Google should supply the data to Viacom on printed paper in 2pt font. That would force the aggregation to be a manual process, possibly taking years and lots of $$$$, and rife with potential errors that could be leagally challenged whereupon they would be obliged to go over it all again to verify.

                                        [AG]

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                                        • P Paul Conrad

                                          John C wrote:

                                          5 and a quarter inch floppy disks

                                          :laugh: How about 8" floppy disks or 8 track tapes :rolleyes:

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                          Lost User
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                                          My vote would be to print it out on paper in and ship it. With a bit of effort, the printout could be in random order using a font that is hard to OCR (e.g. faded dot matrix on old style fan fold paper). A rough calculation places the volume at about 5,000 truckloads of paper. Technically speaking, they would have the data but it would take them approximately 200 thousand man-years to scan and collate under the very best of circumstances. Microfilm also might be another option. Takes up less space but just as awkward to digitize.

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