Apple Does not 'Just work'
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
So, an Apple a day doesn't keep the doctor away? :-D
Don't take any wooden nickels.
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
As a recent user of OSX (I bought a 24" iMac about a month ago), I must admit that I'm not as impressed as I hoped to be. I do like OSX (as a user), and I think it is definitely a great thing for Apple to have done for itself. But it has fallen short of making me look down on Windows (XP or Vista). Likes: 1. Extremely consistent look-and-feel, although I wish they'd ditch the brushed-aluminum for a solid color or mild gradient. 2. A genuine, honest-to-God CLI 3. A properly rooted filesystem. You can fake this on a XP+ box, but not all apps play nicely with it. 4. The mighty-mouse. I will never again purchase a mouse that does not have the all-pointing-sphere-of-goodness. In addition, I get a devilish chuckle from the fact that whenever I look at it I think of a squished lab rat with a BB lodged in its skull. 5. Built-in X Server. Dislikes: 1. The keyboard. I feel like I'm typing on a My-First-Keyboard. "I'm typing a letter to daddy!" 2. The home/end keys apparently always get mapped to "begin of file" and "end of file". Inside what twisted beret did someone think that moving to the start or end of a file occurs more often than moving to the start or end of a line? 3. I have the mouse acceleration turned up to maximum, and I still have to pick the mouse up and re-seat it in order to move from one corner of the screen to the opposite corner. Not cool. All in all, I'm pleased. But I really was hoping that this time - just this once - a silver bullet really existed.
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
I'm with you on the application crashing. Everytime I've used a Mac (OS 9 & 10.2/10.4) it 'just crashes' on me. At one place I worked where we used Macs (OS 9 days), I had to reboot 7 times before lunch because it locked up each time. Then everytime I got onto my partner's Mac (10.2/10.4), it would crash reguarly... with messages that she never got when using it! I'm not a big fan of the Mac therefore from my experiences, and few interface things drive me nuts. But hey, if you like the way they work, and are stable for you, by all means use them I say.
------------------------ Luke Lovegrove ------------------------
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
I was drinking when I read that! I almost choked! I did that once, and once is once too many!
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You are coming to a sad realization...? :-\
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
They have been shooting those arrows for years. The expectation of an outcome is a far more valuable marketing tool than the actual execution. I have used Mac and Windows boxes for years. I spent 2 years programming Macs (CodeWarrior). In my experience with Macs, which doesn't include the latest OS and apps, they didn't prove to be any more or less prone to have problems than Windows. It was harder for me, at first, to debug Mac issues because of my lack of familiarity. It did give me ammunition to use against the Mac only snobs who used to preach the superiority of the Mac. On the other hand, I became less of a Windows only snob. I think that where Macs really shine is in the graphic arts area, which is great if you're bent that way. For the engineering design and analysis tools that I use on my job, the Windows apps are far better developed.
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me. Me blog, You read
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Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
It's that bad? I've never coded for Macs in all my years of programming (20+) :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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As a recent user of OSX (I bought a 24" iMac about a month ago), I must admit that I'm not as impressed as I hoped to be. I do like OSX (as a user), and I think it is definitely a great thing for Apple to have done for itself. But it has fallen short of making me look down on Windows (XP or Vista). Likes: 1. Extremely consistent look-and-feel, although I wish they'd ditch the brushed-aluminum for a solid color or mild gradient. 2. A genuine, honest-to-God CLI 3. A properly rooted filesystem. You can fake this on a XP+ box, but not all apps play nicely with it. 4. The mighty-mouse. I will never again purchase a mouse that does not have the all-pointing-sphere-of-goodness. In addition, I get a devilish chuckle from the fact that whenever I look at it I think of a squished lab rat with a BB lodged in its skull. 5. Built-in X Server. Dislikes: 1. The keyboard. I feel like I'm typing on a My-First-Keyboard. "I'm typing a letter to daddy!" 2. The home/end keys apparently always get mapped to "begin of file" and "end of file". Inside what twisted beret did someone think that moving to the start or end of a file occurs more often than moving to the start or end of a line? 3. I have the mouse acceleration turned up to maximum, and I still have to pick the mouse up and re-seat it in order to move from one corner of the screen to the opposite corner. Not cool. All in all, I'm pleased. But I really was hoping that this time - just this once - a silver bullet really existed.
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
Russell Morris wrote:
4. The mighty-mouse. I will never again purchase a mouse that does not have the all-pointing-sphere-of-goodness. In addition, I get a devilish chuckle from the fact that whenever I look at it I think of a squished lab rat with a BB lodged in its skull.
That's one I am going to have to remember :laugh:
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Airport
That is one of my lease favorite things on a Mac. A client of mine is calling all the time with Airport issues :suss: Hey, but it's quick $$$ to fix :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Really ? I have to type my password in to install a program, it's nothing like Vista. I'll give you WMA support, but everything else I've tried to bring over, has worked fine. And, I am loving my Mac ( I am using it right now ). Perhaps you've just used yours more than mine, I played my first mp3 tonight, I basically web browse and use XCode. I would agree that people who think Mac is perfect, are wrong, but overall, I do like the Mac environment a lot. I have several USB and portable hard drives, they all work. I am using a Microsoft keyboard and mouse right now. My Mac has had a lot of use ( again, in limited ways ) and never crashed. Not once.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you. If you're still stuck, ask me for more information.
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Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
It's that bad? I've never coded for Macs in all my years of programming (20+) :-\
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
Objective C is nasty looking. If you know C++, you look at it and realise you're not in Kansas anymore, and wonder why they use it. But, like any new language, you get used to it. The VS IDE is definately a lot nicer, XCode is about as nice as VC6 was. Swings and roundabouts. I like C# more, but I don't mind learning ObjectiveC.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you. If you're still stuck, ask me for more information.
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As a recent user of OSX (I bought a 24" iMac about a month ago), I must admit that I'm not as impressed as I hoped to be. I do like OSX (as a user), and I think it is definitely a great thing for Apple to have done for itself. But it has fallen short of making me look down on Windows (XP or Vista). Likes: 1. Extremely consistent look-and-feel, although I wish they'd ditch the brushed-aluminum for a solid color or mild gradient. 2. A genuine, honest-to-God CLI 3. A properly rooted filesystem. You can fake this on a XP+ box, but not all apps play nicely with it. 4. The mighty-mouse. I will never again purchase a mouse that does not have the all-pointing-sphere-of-goodness. In addition, I get a devilish chuckle from the fact that whenever I look at it I think of a squished lab rat with a BB lodged in its skull. 5. Built-in X Server. Dislikes: 1. The keyboard. I feel like I'm typing on a My-First-Keyboard. "I'm typing a letter to daddy!" 2. The home/end keys apparently always get mapped to "begin of file" and "end of file". Inside what twisted beret did someone think that moving to the start or end of a file occurs more often than moving to the start or end of a line? 3. I have the mouse acceleration turned up to maximum, and I still have to pick the mouse up and re-seat it in order to move from one corner of the screen to the opposite corner. Not cool. All in all, I'm pleased. But I really was hoping that this time - just this once - a silver bullet really existed.
-- Russell Morris Morbo: "WINDMILLS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!"
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I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users. I knew Apple was full of hot air and stretching the truth but it's now at the point of offensive. Get your house into order, Apple, before you think about slinging stones and arrows.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I am so, so sick of typing in my password every single time I want to do anything, and of apps crashing, and of things like the Airport Update rendering the Airport base station inoperative, and missing support for things like WMA files, and my USB drive, and all the other crap that Apple likes to thing only happens to PC users.
Sounds to me like something isn't right with your system. I almost never have to type in a password unless I'm updating software or I'm logging in to some account. Both seem reasonable places to ask for a password. USB drive? Are you plugging in a NTFS formatted drive? Because that may indeed not work (but then everyone other than Windows has some problems dealing with it). Otherwise everything I've attached has worked just fine. WMA? Meh, you brought that on yourself...
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Objective C is nasty looking. If you know C++, you look at it and realise you're not in Kansas anymore, and wonder why they use it. But, like any new language, you get used to it. The VS IDE is definately a lot nicer, XCode is about as nice as VC6 was. Swings and roundabouts. I like C# more, but I don't mind learning ObjectiveC.
Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you. If you're still stuck, ask me for more information.
Christian Graus wrote:
Objective C is nasty looking.
I agree. I guess if I ever get a project requiring Mac coding, I'll find out :-D
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon
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Andrew Bleakley wrote:
Try writing code for Macs - that makes using them a dream
I was drinking when I read that! I almost choked! I did that once, and once is once too many!
Funny that, I was drinking when I agreed to write code for a Mac
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Funny that, I was drinking when I agreed to write code for a Mac
I started drinking after macoding. Did it help to drink before? :~
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I'm with you on the application crashing. Everytime I've used a Mac (OS 9 & 10.2/10.4) it 'just crashes' on me. At one place I worked where we used Macs (OS 9 days), I had to reboot 7 times before lunch because it locked up each time. Then everytime I got onto my partner's Mac (10.2/10.4), it would crash reguarly... with messages that she never got when using it! I'm not a big fan of the Mac therefore from my experiences, and few interface things drive me nuts. But hey, if you like the way they work, and are stable for you, by all means use them I say.
------------------------ Luke Lovegrove ------------------------
I bought a MAC laptop for my wife last year. After using NeXT for 15 years or so(I still own a couple of them in storage), I was appalled at OSX. After an hour or so fooling around with it and not finding .cshrc or FSCK so that I might help her, I now refuse to go near it. They must be in there somewhere. Some day I'd like to hear some explanation of why they sat on NeXT for all those years. There's some kind of equivalence between VISTA and OSX for moving not backward, but into some kind of la-la-land.