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  • P Paul Watson

    Let her handle the calls until she sees the wisdom of your 5 year olds ways...

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

    At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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    jeron1
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    She's hung up on this whole 'civility' thing. Even the perception of being rude unacceptable. But I'm working on that. :)

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      Miszou
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      I had one of these the other day, telling me that the factory warranty on my car was about to expire. Well, I just bought a "new" car (2001 VW), so I was curious about it's supposed warranty. I pressed "1" to speak to a representative, basically to ask them what car they were referring to and then to tell them "politely" to please never call me again. Well, I pressed "1" and after 30 seconds of silence I was disconnected. Not to be dissuaded, I called them back on the number that they had called me from, and got the unavailable message from the phone company. I'm curious as to how exactly this is a scam? These people are obviously too stupid to scam anyone, since it is impossible to actually get in contact with them. Oh well, I guess I'll get back to sending out name corrections in reply to all these emails that have me confused with someone else...

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      • J jeron1

        She's hung up on this whole 'civility' thing. Even the perception of being rude unacceptable. But I'm working on that. :)

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        Paul Watson
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        hehe. To be honest, I'm very civil on the phone. I'm getting better at interrupting a motor-mouth and saying "Sorry for interrupting but I am really not interested." but it can still be hard at times. I'd see if your wife's civility can be used towards "no calls during dinner time." Take it off the hook. Civility towards your own family first.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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        • M Miszou

          I had one of these the other day, telling me that the factory warranty on my car was about to expire. Well, I just bought a "new" car (2001 VW), so I was curious about it's supposed warranty. I pressed "1" to speak to a representative, basically to ask them what car they were referring to and then to tell them "politely" to please never call me again. Well, I pressed "1" and after 30 seconds of silence I was disconnected. Not to be dissuaded, I called them back on the number that they had called me from, and got the unavailable message from the phone company. I'm curious as to how exactly this is a scam? These people are obviously too stupid to scam anyone, since it is impossible to actually get in contact with them. Oh well, I guess I'll get back to sending out name corrections in reply to all these emails that have me confused with someone else...

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          Paul Watson
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          They phone en masse. Your one disconnection means nothing to them. Maybe only 0.1% of people respond favourably but, just like email spam, that is all they need to keep on going.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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          • P Paul Watson

            Ed.Poore wrote:

            so Dad said that it was rude to phone while we were at the table

            Amazing how things have changed. It has only been a few short years since I was a kid but back then everyone knew when dinner was and everyone had it at the same time. Between half 6 and half 7 you didn't call, you didn't knock on doors, you didn't swing by for a visit unless invited, sports had finished, playtime was over, movies were on later and broadcasters never scheduled anything important at that time. These days dinner is whenever you can get something in the microwave between the demands of the TiVo/web/email/mobile/sports/movies/work... a shame.

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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            Big Daddy Farang
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            Basically the same story here. The phone never rang during dinner when I was a kid. These days the whole family is at the dinner table and we don't answer the phone when it rings. We have voice mail, that's its job. I may be crazy or behind the times but I place great importance on having dinner together as a family. Times may change but standards must remain.

            BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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            • C Christian Graus

              In the US, does an unlisted number show 'unlisted', or is that not allowed ? At home, they are unlisted, from call centres.

              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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              Muhadeeb66
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              well, I got a caller ID with all 10 numbers at "0" and an"Unidentified caller".... duh! isn't that obfuscation to the extreme.

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              • P Paul Watson

                hehe. To be honest, I'm very civil on the phone. I'm getting better at interrupting a motor-mouth and saying "Sorry for interrupting but I am really not interested." but it can still be hard at times. I'd see if your wife's civility can be used towards "no calls during dinner time." Take it off the hook. Civility towards your own family first.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                jeron1
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                Paul Watson wrote:

                Civility towards your own family first.

                Great sentiment. I used to be much more civil on the phone but we are bombarded with sales calls upwards of 20 a day, even though we are on the 'Do not call list', something in America where you sign up for it and telemarkers are not allowed to call you (for a certain period of time)...yeah right.

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                • R Rob Graham

                  The House passed such a bill last year Truth in Caller ID Act of 2007 [^]. It remains stalled in Senate committee, thanks mostly to the influence of the Telemarketing Lobby. Write your favorite Senator(s).

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  Write your favorite Senator(s).

                  Isn't that an oxymoron?

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • J jeron1

                    Ah, I have my very talkative 5 year old son pick up the phone and chat with the nice salespeople. Usually it ends with him making some type of gaseous noise and laughing uncontrollably. For some reason I find it just as funny as he does. The wife however, just doesn't get the (three stooges-like) humorous quality of it though. :-D :sigh:

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                    goodideadave
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                    jeron1 wrote:

                    Usually it ends with him making some type of gaseous noise and laughing uncontrollably.

                    That's brilliant. I'd have him answer with the speaker phone so the whole family could enjoy it. :laugh:

                    Someone's gotta be the last to know, but why is it always me?

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      hehe. To be honest, I'm very civil on the phone. I'm getting better at interrupting a motor-mouth and saying "Sorry for interrupting but I am really not interested." but it can still be hard at times. I'd see if your wife's civility can be used towards "no calls during dinner time." Take it off the hook. Civility towards your own family first.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                      At least he achieved immortality for a few years.

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                      Gary Wheeler
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                      Bah. If I'm feeling mellow I say "We don't take sales calls!". If I'm cranky, I tell them "Bugger off!".

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Oakman
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                        Have a real live police whistle hanging by your phone. If one of 'em gets through - or you have had a bad day and just feel like it - hold the whistle to the mouthpiece and blow it as loud and long as possible.

                        Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                        • M Miszou

                          I had one of these the other day, telling me that the factory warranty on my car was about to expire. Well, I just bought a "new" car (2001 VW), so I was curious about it's supposed warranty. I pressed "1" to speak to a representative, basically to ask them what car they were referring to and then to tell them "politely" to please never call me again. Well, I pressed "1" and after 30 seconds of silence I was disconnected. Not to be dissuaded, I called them back on the number that they had called me from, and got the unavailable message from the phone company. I'm curious as to how exactly this is a scam? These people are obviously too stupid to scam anyone, since it is impossible to actually get in contact with them. Oh well, I guess I'll get back to sending out name corrections in reply to all these emails that have me confused with someone else...

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                          Richard Jones
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                          On some phone systems, pressing a number (1 or 9?) allows them to make long distance phone calls on your number. They don't need to talk to you afterwards. I get them all the time claiming to be a credit card company with problems on my card. :laugh:

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                          • D Dirk Higbee

                            Here in the US the person receiving calls can block calls that won't show the number but it doesn't work very well. Businesses can still call in ,the id shows 'no data'. To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

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                            David Crow
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                            Dirk Higbee wrote:

                            To stop pesky telemarketers we have the Do Not Call list we can sign up for, but it doesn't work really good either.

                            That's not the list's fault.

                            "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                            "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                            • B Big Daddy Farang

                              We get the same calls on our home number. I wish I knew which car they're calling about since we've got cars from model years 2000, 1992, and 1970. Which warranty is about to expire...? :~

                              BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                              David Crow
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                              Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                              Which warranty is about to expire...?

                              The one that suffers a major problem the very next day.

                              "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                              "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                                Which warranty is about to expire...?

                                The one that suffers a major problem the very next day.

                                "Love people and use things, not love things and use people." - Unknown

                                "To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne

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                                Big Daddy Farang
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                                I guess I should start answering those calls then. If it's not too late, that is. The messages always say it's my last chance. Yet they keep calling. Go figure.

                                BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                                • M Miszou

                                  I had one of these the other day, telling me that the factory warranty on my car was about to expire. Well, I just bought a "new" car (2001 VW), so I was curious about it's supposed warranty. I pressed "1" to speak to a representative, basically to ask them what car they were referring to and then to tell them "politely" to please never call me again. Well, I pressed "1" and after 30 seconds of silence I was disconnected. Not to be dissuaded, I called them back on the number that they had called me from, and got the unavailable message from the phone company. I'm curious as to how exactly this is a scam? These people are obviously too stupid to scam anyone, since it is impossible to actually get in contact with them. Oh well, I guess I'll get back to sending out name corrections in reply to all these emails that have me confused with someone else...

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                                  Before they changed their number to 123-456-7890, it was 702-... a number in Las Vegas. I looked that phone number up on google and sure enough, there are other people complaining about it. BTW, it seems you've wasted your time pressing 1, because they'll just keep calling. Other people are complaining about that too.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  • G Gary Wheeler

                                    Bah. If I'm feeling mellow I say "We don't take sales calls!". If I'm cranky, I tell them "Bugger off!".

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    Steve Mayfield
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                                    "Can't talk now, the dog just crapped all over the kitchen floor" :laugh:

                                    Steve

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Steve Mayfield
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                                      posted here before, but this tele-marketer conversation is a classic - Bob & Tom Show ("telemarketer stumbles on murder scene") [^]

                                      Steve

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                                      • M MidwestLimey

                                        Hi, this is Whizzo-Tech-Bang calling with a fantaaaastic new product. Our all new SensiIntelliRoboVox(tm) VoiceMail system will play the message you want your callers to hear, sweet for Mum, hatefull for Telemarketers(*), threatening for the College buddy who wants to borrow your car yet again. Just type in the number and choose from any of 16 custom(**) and 8 prerecorded messages! (*) SensiIntelliRoboVox(tm) VoiceMail will prioritize calls from Whizzo-Tech-Bang, deleting any others necessary to make room. (**) Proprietary Whizzo-Tech-Bang SuperDuper Microphone sold seperately


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                                        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                                        :laugh: :laugh: ROFL :laugh: :laugh:

                                        WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.

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                                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                          There should be a law that prohibits the obfuscation, spoofing, or otherwise transmitting anything other than the actual phone number you're calling from. I just got a call from the number 123-456-7890. The funny thing is I knew exactly who it was - an automotive warranty service that has been widely identified as a scam.

                                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                          dandy72
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                                          We need flexibility in end-user phone filtering like we do for spam filtering. Not in my predefined contact list? Then don't even allow it to ring... I wish I had that sort of control over the hardware--I'd be more than willing to write the software.

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