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  • B Big Daddy Farang

    This was discussed here in the recent past but I have no idea what the consensus was if any. So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.) There needs to be some form of visual separation between the "Customer Name" etc. and the Values. If the values are also labels, it might be done with colons or spacing. If the values are in text boxes or similar, the colons would not be extraneous. Did your CIO say why not to use colons? Seems a bit drastic. I mean, where would be without our colons? :laugh: Edit: struck not :-O

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    Brady Kelly
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    Big Daddy Farang wrote:

    I mean, where would be without our colons? :laugh:

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    • L Lost User

      Why should you use colon????? I think MS uses those since it looked good in DOS ( as a visual separator). It seems to have carried the tradition. Today if you have a label and a textbox that look different, I dont think colon is of much use. As an end user, I dont even notice the difference. Is there any scientific reason for using that?

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      Brady Kelly
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      It's not all about the UI; it's also about reflecting real world use of the colon: as an introductory break.

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      • K keyboard warrior

        sorry? i have never been fond of using colons in forms. i think it get messier and clutters things up when for the most party, all my textboxes have a space between the header and it is clearly defined by the structure more than some colon.

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        JudyL_MD
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        jgasm wrote:

        sorry?

        Requires knowledge of english slang. It's a play on words regarding human anatomy. The intenstinal tract contains a "colon" so ... how can you "go" (euphemism for venting bodily wastes) if you don't use a colon Judy

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          So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


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          Pete OHanlon
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          Mark Nischalke wrote:

          I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them.

          If you're using a C syntax like language, then the only thing you need to worry about is when he tries to remove your semi-colons.

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            So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


            only two letters away from being an asset

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            Mike Dimmick
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            Show him, oh, I don't know, just about every dialog in Windows!

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              Show him, oh, I don't know, just about every dialog in Windows!

              DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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              Pete OHanlon
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              Impirical proof does not stop zealots.

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                So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                only two letters away from being an asset

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                Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                Labels on labels get colons labels on actionable elements do not. However, I try to be consistent. Personally, instead of a colon I prefer to use strong.

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                  So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                  Tom Delany
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                  I always have used colons after the labels... Just my preference. I resisted any anatomical wise-cracks (it was tough). ;)

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                    So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                    only two letters away from being an asset

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                    Gary R Wheeler
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                    For me, it depends upon the layout. If the label is above the control it applies to, I don't use a colon. If the label is to the left of the control, I use a colon. I stick to one layout in a given application (labels above or labels left). I don't know where I got this convention. Now that's just scary :sigh:.

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                      So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                      only two letters away from being an asset

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                      Roger Wright
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                      I've always been lavish in my use of separators for clarity, and the colon was a favorite. But since having one-third of my colon removed I've become much more conservation minded, switching instead to semi-colons.

                      "A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"

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                      • B Big Daddy Farang

                        So he's a colon control freak? X| :laugh:

                        BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                        Mycroft Holmes
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                        Aint that a PITA

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                          So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                          only two letters away from being an asset

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                          Frank Fajardo
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                          Your app must have nothing to improve on to notice such things... :-D I must admit I can be meticulous in how my app looks.

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                            So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                            only two letters away from being an asset

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                            Idaho Edokpayi
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                            If it is a localized app the developer might want to leave the colons out - something else might be more appropriate for other languages.

                            Idaho Edokpayi

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                              Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                              Did your CIO say why not to use colons? Seems a bit drastic.

                              No reason given. Guess its just a means of exercising control where he can and where he shouldn't be.


                              only two letters away from being an asset

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                              Naruki 0
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                              Sounds like he's just pissing on everything to mark his territory. Common behavior for corporate climbers. To a man, that type of person should be fired with extreme prejudice.

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                                So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                                only two letters away from being an asset

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                                Paul Watson
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                                Colons. (Your CIO bored?)

                                cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                                  So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                                  Machaira
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                                  In my personal stuff and at work we don't use them if there's some other type of separator between label and value (color around the label for example). There has to be some visual separator between the two.

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                                    So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                                    only two letters away from being an asset

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                                    AndoTheOptimal
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                                    I personally think using a colon is preferable, but if it's not allowed, at the very least I think a good way to delineate the title from the label is to Bold the title and leave the label normal. At least then, you have clear separation.

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                                    • N Naruki 0

                                      Sounds like he's just pissing on everything to mark his territory. Common behavior for corporate climbers. To a man, that type of person should be fired with extreme prejudice.

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                                      JLGauntt
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                                      Nah - he just needs to take a colonic. --- janet

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                                        One must be able to control ones colon.


                                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                                        fred_
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                                        I named my colon "Powell"

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                                        • B Big Daddy Farang

                                          This was discussed here in the recent past but I have no idea what the consensus was if any. So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.) There needs to be some form of visual separation between the "Customer Name" etc. and the Values. If the values are also labels, it might be done with colons or spacing. If the values are in text boxes or similar, the colons would not be extraneous. Did your CIO say why not to use colons? Seems a bit drastic. I mean, where would be without our colons? :laugh: Edit: struck not :-O

                                          BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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                                          Glenn E Lanier II
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                                          Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                                          So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.)

                                          Wouldn't that be YAO? :) I prefer colons, and right justified, so the label is almost touching the control (appropriate whitespace). When I was first introduced to this, I didn't like it, but our user testing showed most people are able to track from label to control better with less space between label and control (on forms with many label/textbox combinations, so not much vertical space between each element, and very heavy on text). --G

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