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  • K keyboard warrior

    sorry? i have never been fond of using colons in forms. i think it get messier and clutters things up when for the most party, all my textboxes have a space between the header and it is clearly defined by the structure more than some colon.

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    JudyL_MD
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    jgasm wrote:

    sorry?

    Requires knowledge of english slang. It's a play on words regarding human anatomy. The intenstinal tract contains a "colon" so ... how can you "go" (euphemism for venting bodily wastes) if you don't use a colon Judy

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      So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


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      Pete OHanlon
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      Mark Nischalke wrote:

      I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them.

      If you're using a C syntax like language, then the only thing you need to worry about is when he tries to remove your semi-colons.

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        So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


        only two letters away from being an asset

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        Mike Dimmick
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        Show him, oh, I don't know, just about every dialog in Windows!

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          Show him, oh, I don't know, just about every dialog in Windows!

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          Pete OHanlon
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            So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


            only two letters away from being an asset

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            Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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            Labels on labels get colons labels on actionable elements do not. However, I try to be consistent. Personally, instead of a colon I prefer to use strong.

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              So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


              only two letters away from being an asset

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              Tom Delany
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              I always have used colons after the labels... Just my preference. I resisted any anatomical wise-cracks (it was tough). ;)

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                So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                only two letters away from being an asset

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                Gary R Wheeler
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                For me, it depends upon the layout. If the label is above the control it applies to, I don't use a colon. If the label is to the left of the control, I use a colon. I stick to one layout in a given application (labels above or labels left). I don't know where I got this convention. Now that's just scary :sigh:.

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                  So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                  Roger Wright
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                  I've always been lavish in my use of separators for clarity, and the colon was a favorite. But since having one-third of my colon removed I've become much more conservation minded, switching instead to semi-colons.

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                  • B Big Daddy Farang

                    So he's a colon control freak? X| :laugh:

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                    Mycroft Holmes
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                    Aint that a PITA

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                      So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                      only two letters away from being an asset

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                      Frank Fajardo
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                      Your app must have nothing to improve on to notice such things... :-D I must admit I can be meticulous in how my app looks.

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                        So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                        Idaho Edokpayi
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                        If it is a localized app the developer might want to leave the colons out - something else might be more appropriate for other languages.

                        Idaho Edokpayi

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                          Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                          Did your CIO say why not to use colons? Seems a bit drastic.

                          No reason given. Guess its just a means of exercising control where he can and where he shouldn't be.


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                          Naruki 0
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                          Sounds like he's just pissing on everything to mark his territory. Common behavior for corporate climbers. To a man, that type of person should be fired with extreme prejudice.

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                            So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


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                            Paul Watson
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                            Colons. (Your CIO bored?)

                            cheers, Paul M. Watson.

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                              So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


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                              Machaira
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                              In my personal stuff and at work we don't use them if there's some other type of separator between label and value (color around the label for example). There has to be some visual separator between the two.

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                                So whats the consensus around here? When creating an app do you place a colon after your labels or not? i.e. Customer Name: [label] or Customer Name [label] I've always used a colon but have recently been told by our CIO to not use them. I think it just makes everything bleed together and looks terrible.


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                                AndoTheOptimal
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                                I personally think using a colon is preferable, but if it's not allowed, at the very least I think a good way to delineate the title from the label is to Bold the title and leave the label normal. At least then, you have clear separation.

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                                  Sounds like he's just pissing on everything to mark his territory. Common behavior for corporate climbers. To a man, that type of person should be fired with extreme prejudice.

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                                  JLGauntt
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                                  Nah - he just needs to take a colonic. --- janet

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                                    One must be able to control ones colon.


                                    only two letters away from being an asset

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                                    fred_
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                                    I named my colon "Powell"

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                                      This was discussed here in the recent past but I have no idea what the consensus was if any. So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.) There needs to be some form of visual separation between the "Customer Name" etc. and the Values. If the values are also labels, it might be done with colons or spacing. If the values are in text boxes or similar, the colons would not be extraneous. Did your CIO say why not to use colons? Seems a bit drastic. I mean, where would be without our colons? :laugh: Edit: struck not :-O

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                                      Glenn E Lanier II
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                                      Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                                      So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.)

                                      Wouldn't that be YAO? :) I prefer colons, and right justified, so the label is almost touching the control (appropriate whitespace). When I was first introduced to this, I didn't like it, but our user testing showed most people are able to track from label to control better with less space between label and control (on forms with many label/textbox combinations, so not much vertical space between each element, and very heavy on text). --G

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                                        If it is a localized app the developer might want to leave the colons out - something else might be more appropriate for other languages.

                                        Idaho Edokpayi

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                                        Thelly
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                                        If localization is an issue the colon just becomes another thing to add to the list of locale-specific values... For me, the decision is usually based on the sort of form/page/etc. I am writing. If it is an extraneous screen element (i.e. not going to be found in any container called "main_content" or some such) it very likely won't get a colon because it won't be terribly important that the user want to fill it in RIGHT NOW. A good example would be the "Search" box at the top of this reply form: the current display's main purpose is to capture my reply, so the label for the search box is there to announce its presence and let me know that particular cluster of controls is how I find something. On the other hand, the controls for actually filling out my reply all have labels followed by colons, because they are part of the main purpose of the page and instructing my on what information I need to provide where, similar to forms throughout the ages. You could always use the "other" major format for labeling form fields and stick everything in a heavily-bordered table with weird superscript labels as on a US tax form and then ask which is better...

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                                        • G Glenn E Lanier II

                                          Big Daddy Farang wrote:

                                          So here's YAP. (Yet another opinion.)

                                          Wouldn't that be YAO? :) I prefer colons, and right justified, so the label is almost touching the control (appropriate whitespace). When I was first introduced to this, I didn't like it, but our user testing showed most people are able to track from label to control better with less space between label and control (on forms with many label/textbox combinations, so not much vertical space between each element, and very heavy on text). --G

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                                          Big Daddy Farang
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                                          Good catch, you are correct. I guess I must have been thinking about opossums. ;P

                                          BDF A learned fool is more a fool than an ignorant fool. -- Moliere

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