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    Atlantys
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    I just found out that our school has a site licence for .NET, which I've heard *some* good things about.:-D Now, I have Studio6 at home, and it works fine, except that I'm still using the old October 2000 MSDN. Obviously, I'd love to get a more updated version. Since Studio6 works fine, and I don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), all I want to do is install the new MSDN. So before I rush off and spent however much money is necessary to "rent" the CDs, etc. does anyone know if I can just install the MSDN that comes with .NET and use that along with Studio6?? or is it "in for a penny, in for a pound" with .NET? I don't need all the C# and .NET-related information (and obviously not for VB :-D:-D), just the updated stuff for C++. Thanks (and I hope this doesn't qualify as a "programming question":-D)

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      I just found out that our school has a site licence for .NET, which I've heard *some* good things about.:-D Now, I have Studio6 at home, and it works fine, except that I'm still using the old October 2000 MSDN. Obviously, I'd love to get a more updated version. Since Studio6 works fine, and I don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), all I want to do is install the new MSDN. So before I rush off and spent however much money is necessary to "rent" the CDs, etc. does anyone know if I can just install the MSDN that comes with .NET and use that along with Studio6?? or is it "in for a penny, in for a pound" with .NET? I don't need all the C# and .NET-related information (and obviously not for VB :-D:-D), just the updated stuff for C++. Thanks (and I hope this doesn't qualify as a "programming question":-D)

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      Mustafa Demirhan
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      Why don't you purchase the MSDN Library? The price is about $100 per year. Also, you can copy it from your friends if you wish. It is legal to make and distribute the copies of MSDN Library (library only!) as far as I know... Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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        I just found out that our school has a site licence for .NET, which I've heard *some* good things about.:-D Now, I have Studio6 at home, and it works fine, except that I'm still using the old October 2000 MSDN. Obviously, I'd love to get a more updated version. Since Studio6 works fine, and I don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), all I want to do is install the new MSDN. So before I rush off and spent however much money is necessary to "rent" the CDs, etc. does anyone know if I can just install the MSDN that comes with .NET and use that along with Studio6?? or is it "in for a penny, in for a pound" with .NET? I don't need all the C# and .NET-related information (and obviously not for VB :-D:-D), just the updated stuff for C++. Thanks (and I hope this doesn't qualify as a "programming question":-D)

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        MSDN Library after (I think) Oct 2001 is an ugly VS.NET-looking app, and what's worse, MS purposely broke integration with VC 6. That means, hit F1 in VC 6, get nothing. --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm

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          Why don't you purchase the MSDN Library? The price is about $100 per year. Also, you can copy it from your friends if you wish. It is legal to make and distribute the copies of MSDN Library (library only!) as far as I know... Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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          Mustafa Demirhan wrote: It is legal to make and distribute the copies of MSDN Library Only within your organization! not copy from friends. I assume being a student $100 is a big deal:( To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli

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            I just found out that our school has a site licence for .NET, which I've heard *some* good things about.:-D Now, I have Studio6 at home, and it works fine, except that I'm still using the old October 2000 MSDN. Obviously, I'd love to get a more updated version. Since Studio6 works fine, and I don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), all I want to do is install the new MSDN. So before I rush off and spent however much money is necessary to "rent" the CDs, etc. does anyone know if I can just install the MSDN that comes with .NET and use that along with Studio6?? or is it "in for a penny, in for a pound" with .NET? I don't need all the C# and .NET-related information (and obviously not for VB :-D:-D), just the updated stuff for C++. Thanks (and I hope this doesn't qualify as a "programming question":-D)

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            Vagif Abilov
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            The last MSDN version that can be integrated into VS6 is from October 2001. Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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              Mustafa Demirhan wrote: It is legal to make and distribute the copies of MSDN Library Only within your organization! not copy from friends. I assume being a student $100 is a big deal:( To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli

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              Michael A. Barnhart wrote: I assume being a student $100 is a big deal Today I had to decide to buy some course notes or to eat lunch.:-D:wtf:

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                MSDN Library after (I think) Oct 2001 is an ugly VS.NET-looking app, and what's worse, MS purposely broke integration with VC 6. That means, hit F1 in VC 6, get nothing. --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt v1.3 - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.19012 Acid_Helm

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                So is there anyway for me to get the October 2001 version of MSDN then? (legally, of course :-D) besides having to buy a subscription to MSDN? (does a subscription come with DevStudio6?, somehow I doubt it). I'm just sick of this (ancient) version I got now. X|

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                  I just found out that our school has a site licence for .NET, which I've heard *some* good things about.:-D Now, I have Studio6 at home, and it works fine, except that I'm still using the old October 2000 MSDN. Obviously, I'd love to get a more updated version. Since Studio6 works fine, and I don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), all I want to do is install the new MSDN. So before I rush off and spent however much money is necessary to "rent" the CDs, etc. does anyone know if I can just install the MSDN that comes with .NET and use that along with Studio6?? or is it "in for a penny, in for a pound" with .NET? I don't need all the C# and .NET-related information (and obviously not for VB :-D:-D), just the updated stuff for C++. Thanks (and I hope this doesn't qualify as a "programming question":-D)

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                  Atlantys wrote: don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), :confused: You just run the .NET install and you're done. It's totally painless. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    Atlantys wrote: don't want to spent hours and hours (and hours) getting .NET to work (as I've heard some nasty horror stories), :confused: You just run the .NET install and you're done. It's totally painless. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    That's just the install, getting things to work is another matter AFAIK. I'm just repeating what I've heard (and thereby absolving myself of the comment made before. ;P)

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                      That's just the install, getting things to work is another matter AFAIK. I'm just repeating what I've heard (and thereby absolving myself of the comment made before. ;P)

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                      You shouldn't just repeat - try it tourself :) I also heard rumors that VS.NET is hard to get to work, but none of the colleagues I work with experienced any troubles. They also heard rumors though :) Vagif Abilov MCP (Visual C++) Oslo, Norway If you're in a war, instead of throwing a hand grenade at the enemy, throw one of those small pumpkins. Maybe it'll make everyone think how stupid war is, and while they are thinking, you can throw a real grenade at them. Jack Handey, Deep Thoughts

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                        That's just the install, getting things to work is another matter AFAIK. I'm just repeating what I've heard (and thereby absolving myself of the comment made before. ;P)

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                        James T Johnson
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                        The framework install is painless; I haven't heard of anyone saying that has been a pain. What has troubled some people was the install of Visual Studio .NET; but I can't say my experience has been the same. I've only had one problem with installing VS.NET and that was with Beta 1. The only thing that I have an issue with VS.NET is a full-install takes forever (1.0-1.5 hours); but I think that was about my average time of doing a VS6 + full MSDN install. James "Java is free - and worth every penny." - Christian Graus

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                          Michael A. Barnhart wrote: I assume being a student $100 is a big deal Today I had to decide to buy some course notes or to eat lunch.:-D:wtf:

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                          A difficult desicion no doubt. How was lunch? ;P


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                            A difficult desicion no doubt. How was lunch? ;P


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                            Atlantys
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                            Mixed the two... add a little ketchup and mustard to a few pages of ever-so-exciting calculus notes and wrap them in a warm tortilla, and it makes for a delicious mid-afternoon snack ;P

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                              Mustafa Demirhan wrote: It is legal to make and distribute the copies of MSDN Library Only within your organization! not copy from friends. I assume being a student $100 is a big deal:( To be conscious that you are ignorant of the facts is a great step towards Knowledge. Benjamin Disraeli

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                              Mustafa Demirhan
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                              If you are a student, you can buy the whole Visual Studio for $100, not only the library. Microsoft has greeaaat deals for the students. Mustafa Demirhan http://www.macroangel.com Sonork ID 100.9935:zoltrix

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