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Are there any DotNetNuke developers that are still alive?

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  • L leppie

    Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

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    Colin Angus Mackay
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    I don't know - I've given up on it. I'm thinking I can do pretty much what I want more quickly using WebParts.

    Recent blog posts: * SQL Server Memory Usage * Monitoring change in XML data * Debugging into the .NET Source code My Blog

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    • L leppie

      Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
      IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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      Pete OHanlon
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      IIRC, it was based on the old IBuySpy implementation, and it spiralled out of control from there. A couple of years ago I bought the Wrox book on it, and it was awful. It was written by the guy who started it off, and he spent all his time congratulating himself on how wonderful DNN is. (Why do I keep getting reminded of Duke Nukem whenever I see DNN?)

      Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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      • C Colin Angus Mackay

        I don't know - I've given up on it. I'm thinking I can do pretty much what I want more quickly using WebParts.

        Recent blog posts: * SQL Server Memory Usage * Monitoring change in XML data * Debugging into the .NET Source code My Blog

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        leppie
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        Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

        I don't know - I've given up on it.

        I am getting that idea too :( I make a tiny change, seems the whole site need to recompile, and thats another 25+ minutes....

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        • P Pete OHanlon

          IIRC, it was based on the old IBuySpy implementation, and it spiralled out of control from there. A couple of years ago I bought the Wrox book on it, and it was awful. It was written by the guy who started it off, and he spent all his time congratulating himself on how wonderful DNN is. (Why do I keep getting reminded of Duke Nukem whenever I see DNN?)

          Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

          My blog | My articles

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          leppie
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          Anything else you can suggest? Any extensable .NET based (preferably C#) CMS would do.

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          IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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          • L leppie

            Anything else you can suggest? Any extensable .NET based (preferably C#) CMS would do.

            xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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            Pete OHanlon
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            Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK. The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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            • L leppie

              Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

              xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
              IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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              Rocky Moore
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              Curious, what kind of changes do you have to make where you have to recompile the core? The last time I had to rebuild the core, it did not seem to take that long. Version 4.5 was the last one I used, but still have several sites running on it.

              Rocky <>< Blog Post: Domain Auction August 1st! Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Live Writer Plug-ins! Photo Stuff Blog Post: CHDK Motion Detection and other stuff - Quick notes!

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK. The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

                Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                My blog | My articles

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                Colin Angus Mackay
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                Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                The lads are currently reviewing it for me

                Ooohhh!!! Get you!!!!! :-D

                Recent blog posts: * SQL Server Memory Usage * Monitoring change in XML data * Debugging into the .NET Source code My Blog

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                • C Colin Angus Mackay

                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  The lads are currently reviewing it for me

                  Ooohhh!!! Get you!!!!! :-D

                  Recent blog posts: * SQL Server Memory Usage * Monitoring change in XML data * Debugging into the .NET Source code My Blog

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Colin Angus Mackay wrote:

                  Ooohhh!!! Get you!!!!!

                  Now - do that in an Alan Carr voice and say it out loud.

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                  • L leppie

                    Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

                    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                    IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                    phannon86
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                    I have a site up and running, although not being used at the moment using DNN. Nothing special at all, pretty basic and not all that pretty atm, just a very slight tweak of one of the default themes. Clickety[^]

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                    • R Rocky Moore

                      Curious, what kind of changes do you have to make where you have to recompile the core? The last time I had to rebuild the core, it did not seem to take that long. Version 4.5 was the last one I used, but still have several sites running on it.

                      Rocky <>< Blog Post: Domain Auction August 1st! Tech Blog Post: Microsoft Live Writer Plug-ins! Photo Stuff Blog Post: CHDK Motion Detection and other stuff - Quick notes!

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                      leppie
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                      I am developing a small module that consumes a web service. So when the web service needs to be updated, the whole site seems to recompile... I also tried making a library for the web service client, but as soon as the assembly gets updated, DNN recompiles itself in it's entirety! I am using VS2008.

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK. The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                        leppie
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                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

                        Care to enrich me with some info too?

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                        • P phannon86

                          I have a site up and running, although not being used at the moment using DNN. Nothing special at all, pretty basic and not all that pretty atm, just a very slight tweak of one of the default themes. Clickety[^]

                          He who makes a beast out of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man

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                          leppie
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                          I am specifically talking about extending, and the pain that goes with that. Once it runs, it runs fine, but I cant wait 20 minutes for the site to compile every time I make a tiny change.

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                          IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                          • P Pete OHanlon

                            Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK. The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

                            Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                            My blog | My articles

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                            leppie
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                            Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                            Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK.

                            You got me all excited only to find out Joomla runs on PHP... :doh:

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                            IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                            • L leppie

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              The lads are currently reviewing it for me.

                              Care to enrich me with some info too?

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                              IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                              Pete OHanlon
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                              Well - so far they haven't reported any major issues. It seems extensible enough, and relatively stable.

                              Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                              • L leppie

                                I am specifically talking about extending, and the pain that goes with that. Once it runs, it runs fine, but I cant wait 20 minutes for the site to compile every time I make a tiny change.

                                xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                phannon86
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                                Ah ok I'm with you, can't be of any help though, good luck! :)

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                                • L leppie

                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  Joomla[^] is supposed to be OK.

                                  You got me all excited only to find out Joomla runs on PHP... :doh:

                                  xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                  IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                  Pete OHanlon
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                                  OK - if ASP.NET is your criteria, there's always Kentico CMS - although you have to pay for this one.

                                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                  • L leppie

                                    Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

                                    xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                    IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                    senylity
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                                    The way we had it implemented, it would not have to compile the core more than once. Ever. The things that did compile were the DNN website, which references the DNN libraries, and our custom modules, which we wrote in C#. We had one VS solution that was the core, and one VS solution that had the website and custom modules in it. We worked really hard to not modify the core, or at least keep our changes documented and short so that when the next version came out (which it did about every 6-8 weeks), we could upgrade without any problems. I would suggest trying our solution to your problem: splitting up your VS solutions into core DNN libraries and the website with custom modules.

                                    Success is the happy feeling you get between the time you do something and the time you tell a woman what you did. --Dilbert My left name is Tremendous Savings, Ms. America – Señor Cardgage

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                                    • L leppie

                                      Because the 20+ minutes it takes to build is making me suicidal! How was this thing ever developed in the first place?

                                      xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
                                      IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                      Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                      Not sure if this[^] helps.


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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        OK - if ASP.NET is your criteria, there's always Kentico CMS - although you have to pay for this one.

                                        Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                                        leppie
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                                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                        although you have to pay for this one.

                                        US$20 000 is a tad much! ;P

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                                        IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)

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                                        • S senylity

                                          The way we had it implemented, it would not have to compile the core more than once. Ever. The things that did compile were the DNN website, which references the DNN libraries, and our custom modules, which we wrote in C#. We had one VS solution that was the core, and one VS solution that had the website and custom modules in it. We worked really hard to not modify the core, or at least keep our changes documented and short so that when the next version came out (which it did about every 6-8 weeks), we could upgrade without any problems. I would suggest trying our solution to your problem: splitting up your VS solutions into core DNN libraries and the website with custom modules.

                                          Success is the happy feeling you get between the time you do something and the time you tell a woman what you did. --Dilbert My left name is Tremendous Savings, Ms. America – Señor Cardgage

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                                          Todd Smith
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                                          This is the way a large project I'm working on is structured. The only time we need a whole recompile is when interfaces or web service method signatures change between projects.

                                          Todd Smith

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