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  • _ _Damian S_

    You know one way to bring on labour... :-\ :-\ :-\

    -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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    _Damian S_ wrote:

    You know one way to bring on labour... :-\ :-\ :-\

    What is that? Or is it "unmentionable?"

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      _Damian S_ wrote:

      You know one way to bring on labour... :-\ :-\ :-\

      What is that? Or is it "unmentionable?"

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      I'm told the three ways are a hot bath, hot curry or hot sex.

      Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        I'm told the three ways are a hot bath, hot curry or hot sex.

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        I'm told the three ways are a hot bath, hot curry or hot sex.

        Target have trampolines on sale. That suggestion didnt go down so well.

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          Yeah, I have friends who are teachers in the US and they make it sound pretty grim.

          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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          Christian Graus wrote:

          they make it sound pretty grim

          Well, from what I've seen, I'll agree with your friends.

          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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            Christian Graus wrote:

            I'm told the three ways are a hot bath, hot curry or hot sex.

            Target have trampolines on sale. That suggestion didnt go down so well.

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            Josh Gray wrote:

            Target have trampolines on sale. That suggestion didnt go down so well.

            Maybe she'll like this one better - Direct from our midwife (some years ago) - down on all fours cleaning the floor (not a euphemism) is a good way also... Something about gravity helping put the baby in the right position blah blah... Then sitting on an exercise ball winding the baby out (moving her butt in circles).

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              Are you suprised that many parents now depend entirely on the school system to educate their children? Weekends are all about "quality time" not sitting down to study a book together. Surely a childs education is the parents responsibility. If the school system is lacking then its their job to find a better school or pick up the slack.

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              Josh Gray wrote:

              many parents now depend entirely on the school system to educate their children

              I don't.

              Josh Gray wrote:

              a childs education is the parents responsibility

              Definitely.

              Josh Gray wrote:

              their job to find a better school or pick up the slack.

              Sometimes easier said than done. I did a stint as a teacher and the parents I respected most were the ones who cared about how their son/daughter was progressing in my class and if there were any problems, how to help their child do better.

              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                _Damian S_ wrote:

                No baby yet?

                Nope :(

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                Awww man. When are you and the missus expecting the little one? Gonna pass any cigars around here :laugh:

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                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  many parents now depend entirely on the school system to educate their children

                  I don't.

                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  a childs education is the parents responsibility

                  Definitely.

                  Josh Gray wrote:

                  their job to find a better school or pick up the slack.

                  Sometimes easier said than done. I did a stint as a teacher and the parents I respected most were the ones who cared about how their son/daughter was progressing in my class and if there were any problems, how to help their child do better.

                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                  Sometimes easier said than done. I did a stint as a teacher and the parents I respected most were the ones who cared about how their son/daughter was progressing in my class and if there were any problems, how to help their child do better.

                  Which is exactly the way it should be. Jumping up and down and blaiming the education system or teachers as a group is just a cop out. I had some great teachers and some shit ones. I did well with both kinds because I was motivated to learn. That motivation came from my parents

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                    Awww man. When are you and the missus expecting the little one? Gonna pass any cigars around here :laugh:

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                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                    Awww man. When are you and the missus expecting the little one?

                    Its due next saturday :)

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                    • _ _Damian S_

                      Josh Gray wrote:

                      two buckets worth

                      Better get cracking then!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                      -------------------------------------------------------- Knowledge is knowing that the tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in fruit salad!!

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                      :laugh::laugh::laugh:

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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        I'm told the three ways are a hot bath, hot curry or hot sex.

                        Target have trampolines on sale. That suggestion didnt go down so well.

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                        Josh Gray wrote:

                        Target have trampolines on sale.

                        Well, go get one. When your kid is old enough, he or she will want one.

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                          Paul Conrad wrote:

                          Awww man. When are you and the missus expecting the little one?

                          Its due next saturday :)

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                          Do you guys know what it is going to be or just waiting to see for a surprise?

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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            Sometimes easier said than done. I did a stint as a teacher and the parents I respected most were the ones who cared about how their son/daughter was progressing in my class and if there were any problems, how to help their child do better.

                            Which is exactly the way it should be. Jumping up and down and blaiming the education system or teachers as a group is just a cop out. I had some great teachers and some shit ones. I did well with both kinds because I was motivated to learn. That motivation came from my parents

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                            Josh Gray wrote:

                            Jumping up and down and blaiming the education system or teachers as a group is just a cop out.

                            Yep. There were plenty of instances I had parents tell me their kids said one thing and parent finds out it was different. Sadly, it was usually at the point of no repair.

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                              I would agree that the US school system is in a sorry state. Ours is not much better. The biggest issue is not that kids don't know a random assortment of facts about historical dates. Far more concerning in that regard are the outright lies taught as history in the US ( if you go to university and study history, the first step in the US is to unlearn most of what you were told ). However, even that doesn't matter that much, much as I think it's important to know where you came from. As Mike said, it's the attitude of not being able to fail anyone ( we have this here, I have come up against it ), and the unwillingness to teach people to think for themselves, to expect failure as a possible outcome of lack of application, etc. And I got 5 out of 6 right, same as a lot of people here.

                              Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              And I got 5 out of 6 right, same as a lot of people here.

                              Did you miss that last one? Seems like most people did. Not sure about the site saying some 88% got it right :suss:

                              Christian Graus wrote:

                              if you go to university and study history, the first step in the US is to unlearn most of what you were told

                              Yep, my wife is a History major and I learned more from her discussions than I did in high school or in one or two history classes in college. Luckily, in college, I somehow got around it :rolleyes:

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                                Do you guys know what it is going to be or just waiting to see for a surprise?

                                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                Paul Conrad wrote:

                                Do you guys know what it is going to be or just waiting to see for a surprise?

                                Its going to be a boy.

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                                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                                  Do you guys know what it is going to be or just waiting to see for a surprise?

                                  Its going to be a boy.

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                                  :cool:

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                                    I can only speak for my local schools but the Columbus / Indian garbage you mention is pretty common in elementary school K-4 but starts to get fleshed out in middle school and debunked completely in high school.

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                                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                    Columbus / Indian garbage you mention is pretty common in elementary school K-4 but starts to get fleshed out in middle school and debunked completely in high school.

                                    Yes, I second that.

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                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      a major reason for the successful settlement of the USA, is the number of Indians who had died due to disease brought about by folks who arrived before the Jamestown/Plymouth Rock settlers.

                                      and people think the bio-warfare is some new form of warfare brought about by technology and evil scientists. personally, i am holding out for the zombie invasion

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                                      jgasm wrote:

                                      people think the bio-warfare is some new form of warfare brought about by technology and evil scientists.

                                      No. Bio-warfare has been supposedly around since the Black Plague days.

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                                        jgasm wrote:

                                        and people think the bio-warfare is some new form of warfare brought about by technology and evil scientists.

                                        Genghis Khan used to catapult the bodies of his warriors who died from disease over the walls of the towns and cities he was attacking. . . I guess that was as close to a zombie invasion as you are going to get. . .

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                                        Okay, I thought first cases of bio-warefare was during Black Plague times. Guess I learned something new :-\

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                                          Like I said, it depends on the 17 yo. If knowledge is valued in the home, then any kid is going to be knowledgable, despite the failings of the school system.

                                          Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                          Christian Graus wrote:

                                          If knowledge is valued in the home, then any kid is going to be knowledgable, despite the failings of the school system.

                                          Good point. My kids are pretty well rounded in all subjects and to me that is a good start for them.

                                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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