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  • M Member 96

    UAC and registry and file protection / virtualization and your security account rights (administrator or otherwise) are *entirely* different and unrelated things. Once you understand that it will all make much more sense.


    "It's so simple to be wise. Just think of something stupid to say and then don't say it." -Sam Levenson

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    Joan M
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    I understand that, but I still don't get why I need to take the ownership of a folder that is shared without passwords and anything else in a computer that is from somebody else. And as far as I've read in the windows help, this means to add my user into that computer... :~ I understand/think that security should be in the sharer not in the one that is taking profit of the sharing... so if somebody leaves all the files open to be used for everyone, why I must take the ownership of that? :confused: Any light will be welcome...

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      Give yourself ownership of the Windows folder.

      Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game UNO.

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      Joan M
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      Well, I didn't meant the windows folder of another computer, I meant a folder named "system" inside a CFCard. Anyway, thank you for your feedback...

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        [rant] I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks. And I don't know how can I make it, but thanks god I have some XP installed here and I can use them to make some things that would be completely impossible. [/rant] OK, now the question, I have one Epson printer that has a nice card reader (e.g. Compact Flash cards). This printer is connected to one coworker Windows XP computer. The drive related to the CFCards is shared onto the network with all the possible permissions. I usually work with Windows CE devices that have the Win CE 5.0 installed onto CF Cards and sometimes I need to modify some files inside those Compact Flash Cards. I don't get it, but my Windows Vista doesn't allow me to go into the system folder, neither allows me to delete some files... What should I do (and please don't tell me to go back to XP) to be able to make those standard tasks without being told that I cannot do it? I don't mean that the UAC bugs me, I mean that I cannot do that and I'm the damned administrator of that Windows Vista computer. Is there any hidden checkbox somewhere that would allow me to work (even if it is just a little)... As always thank you in advance. PS: It is Sunday and I'm finishing some work that must be finished before tomorrow, one coworker has almost broken his leg and he will be out for some time, the damned air conditioning system has decided to leak water and has stopped working today, and now this stupid OS don't allow me to change those files... :~ X| PS2: I still remember when the plumber told me: "Don't be so worried guy, this air conditioning system is a reliable equipment, I would install it just on top of the servers, in that way, the servers would be cooler than in any other way". Thanks god I told him that if for any reason one day it would fail I could be in a serious problem... Today I arrived into the office and I've found my particular pool-desktop... :~ X|

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        NeverHeardOfMe
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        my tuppenceworth.. ...don't believe any of this nonsense about how important UAC is. Just turn the bloody thing off and all your problems will be solved. (Just stay away from dodgy websites and don't open email attachments from strangers yadda yadda yadda....) Run AV and at least Windows Firewall. Your computer will not be hijacked by Al Qaeda. You will be fine. (Don't worry - I can take all the 1 votes a'comin'...) UAC sucks. Period. Apart from that, Vista is great.

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          [rant] I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks. And I don't know how can I make it, but thanks god I have some XP installed here and I can use them to make some things that would be completely impossible. [/rant] OK, now the question, I have one Epson printer that has a nice card reader (e.g. Compact Flash cards). This printer is connected to one coworker Windows XP computer. The drive related to the CFCards is shared onto the network with all the possible permissions. I usually work with Windows CE devices that have the Win CE 5.0 installed onto CF Cards and sometimes I need to modify some files inside those Compact Flash Cards. I don't get it, but my Windows Vista doesn't allow me to go into the system folder, neither allows me to delete some files... What should I do (and please don't tell me to go back to XP) to be able to make those standard tasks without being told that I cannot do it? I don't mean that the UAC bugs me, I mean that I cannot do that and I'm the damned administrator of that Windows Vista computer. Is there any hidden checkbox somewhere that would allow me to work (even if it is just a little)... As always thank you in advance. PS: It is Sunday and I'm finishing some work that must be finished before tomorrow, one coworker has almost broken his leg and he will be out for some time, the damned air conditioning system has decided to leak water and has stopped working today, and now this stupid OS don't allow me to change those files... :~ X| PS2: I still remember when the plumber told me: "Don't be so worried guy, this air conditioning system is a reliable equipment, I would install it just on top of the servers, in that way, the servers would be cooler than in any other way". Thanks god I told him that if for any reason one day it would fail I could be in a serious problem... Today I arrived into the office and I've found my particular pool-desktop... :~ X|

          [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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          Marc Clifton
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          Joan Murt wrote:

          PS2:

          Oh god, nooo! Please, don't remind me of that (Pile of S***)2! Marc

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            my tuppenceworth.. ...don't believe any of this nonsense about how important UAC is. Just turn the bloody thing off and all your problems will be solved. (Just stay away from dodgy websites and don't open email attachments from strangers yadda yadda yadda....) Run AV and at least Windows Firewall. Your computer will not be hijacked by Al Qaeda. You will be fine. (Don't worry - I can take all the 1 votes a'comin'...) UAC sucks. Period. Apart from that, Vista is great.

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            Joan M
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            Yes, but I already have it disconnected... :~ (don't tell it to AlQaeda... :rolleyes: ) So this is really strange...

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Joan Murt wrote:

              PS2:

              Oh god, nooo! Please, don't remind me of that (Pile of S***)2! Marc

              Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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                Joan Murt wrote:

                Do you think you'll be able to pardon me some day?

                Ah, you're forgiven! I'm in a magnanimous mood today. :-D Marc

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                • J Joan M

                  Well, I didn't meant the windows folder of another computer, I meant a folder named "system" inside a CFCard. Anyway, thank you for your feedback...

                  [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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                  The Cake of Deceit
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                  Well then take ownership of that folder.

                  Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game UNO.

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                  • J Joan M

                    [rant] I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks. And I don't know how can I make it, but thanks god I have some XP installed here and I can use them to make some things that would be completely impossible. [/rant] OK, now the question, I have one Epson printer that has a nice card reader (e.g. Compact Flash cards). This printer is connected to one coworker Windows XP computer. The drive related to the CFCards is shared onto the network with all the possible permissions. I usually work with Windows CE devices that have the Win CE 5.0 installed onto CF Cards and sometimes I need to modify some files inside those Compact Flash Cards. I don't get it, but my Windows Vista doesn't allow me to go into the system folder, neither allows me to delete some files... What should I do (and please don't tell me to go back to XP) to be able to make those standard tasks without being told that I cannot do it? I don't mean that the UAC bugs me, I mean that I cannot do that and I'm the damned administrator of that Windows Vista computer. Is there any hidden checkbox somewhere that would allow me to work (even if it is just a little)... As always thank you in advance. PS: It is Sunday and I'm finishing some work that must be finished before tomorrow, one coworker has almost broken his leg and he will be out for some time, the damned air conditioning system has decided to leak water and has stopped working today, and now this stupid OS don't allow me to change those files... :~ X| PS2: I still remember when the plumber told me: "Don't be so worried guy, this air conditioning system is a reliable equipment, I would install it just on top of the servers, in that way, the servers would be cooler than in any other way". Thanks god I told him that if for any reason one day it would fail I could be in a serious problem... Today I arrived into the office and I've found my particular pool-desktop... :~ X|

                    [www.tamelectromecanica.com][www.tam.cat]

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                    Paul Conrad
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                    Joan Murt wrote:

                    I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks.

                    Turning off UAC was my first order of business with Vista.

                    "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      Joan Murt wrote:

                      I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks.

                      Turning off UAC was my first order of business with Vista.

                      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                      Bud Aaron
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                      Another viewpoint - turning off UAC is about like saying just leave your front door unlocked - no one will ever know.For me it was irritating for a couple of days until I escaped a couple of nasties that asked permission to run. Since that time a few months ago I have been virus and spyware free. So sweet!!!

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                        Another viewpoint - turning off UAC is about like saying just leave your front door unlocked - no one will ever know.For me it was irritating for a couple of days until I escaped a couple of nasties that asked permission to run. Since that time a few months ago I have been virus and spyware free. So sweet!!!

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                        Weesals GS
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                        I run XP without UAC or a firewall, im conencted to the internet at all times, and havnt had a virus or spyware for longer than Vista has even been out... Stay free of illegal sites, or install an AV and UAC becomes redundant (and fucking annoying)

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                          Joan Murt wrote:

                          I hate when I need permissions to do everyday tasks.

                          Turning off UAC was my first order of business with Vista.

                          "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                          KarstenK
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                          If you turn out UAC than you can stay by XP.:~

                          Greetings from Germany

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                            If you turn out UAC than you can stay by XP.:~

                            Greetings from Germany

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                            Paul Conrad
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                            Not necessarily so.

                            "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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