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Is it good to use Vista ?

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    Trevortni wrote:

    You haven't used any apps that have data shared between multiple apps and/or users...

    Yes, I have

    Trevortni wrote:

    XP lets me set the resolution on my monitor up to 1400x1050, which is about perfect. Vista maxes out at about 1024x768

    Dah, drivers are different :rolleyes:


    only two letters away from being an asset

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    Trevortni
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    Mark Nischalke wrote:

    Yes, I have

    And you haven't had any problems? You're lying somewhere.

    Mark Nischalke wrote:

    Dah, drivers are different

    So that can just be swept under the rug then?

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    • P Paul Conrad

      Do you have any link supporting this?

      "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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      Pankaj Nikam
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      sure here it is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946003/[^] :)

      Always Keep Smiling. Yours Pankaj Nikam

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      • P Pankaj Nikam

        sure here it is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/946003/[^] :)

        Always Keep Smiling. Yours Pankaj Nikam

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        Dan Neely
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        It's purely a GUI change. To avoid confusing (uneducated) users they're reporting the amount installed, instead of the amount the OS is able to use.

        Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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        • D djwild

          I Installed Vista on a 15GB partition and in two months it grew so much so that now there are only 500MB free on that drive. All other software I am using is on a different partition so those 14.5 gigs are just for OS! For one thing it constantly updates and requires restart. But the big problem right now is that I can't install SP1 because it requires 2GB of free space! I tried freeing up some space but didn't manage to get enough. Turns out that the Winsxs folder takes nearly 8GB, and there is nothing one can do about that. Unfortunately repartitioning is not an option at this point. So the only thing I can do is create a new Vista CD with SP1 integrated and reinstall. :wtf: This is my first experience with Vista, draw your own conclusions. If I were you I would definitely stick to XP.

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          Dan Neely
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          For a slightly less extreme option www.hardforum.com[^] has a recent thread in the OS forum where someone found over a gig of unicode fonts you won't need unless you're using an obscure character set, and other stuff that's almost never needed that can be deleted out of the OS folder. That might be enough to get you going. If not, vLite out stuff like the multigig driver DB as well so you have a bit more space to work with when you add the SP.

          Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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          • T Trevortni

            Mark Nischalke wrote:

            Yes, I have

            And you haven't had any problems? You're lying somewhere.

            Mark Nischalke wrote:

            Dah, drivers are different

            So that can just be swept under the rug then?

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            Trevortni wrote:

            You're lying somewhere

            No need to be insulting


            only two letters away from being an asset

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            • M Mohammad Dayyan

              Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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              I'd wait for Mojave :-D


              only two letters away from being an asset

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              • M Mohammad Dayyan

                Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                Member 4328969
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                My advice: stick to XP. Some will agree, some will disagree. My experiences, however, have not been particularly great. Vista is pretty, and some features are very nice. But Vista can be slow and clunky where it doesn't have to be; Vista settings can be a pain in the neck; and Vista is not compatible with a lot of things. I have it on one of my machines; it won't be going on any others, and, if I had time to wipe it and download the billion plus drivers (it's a high performance laptop that came with Vista) that I need for all my hardware, I'd get rid of it. Honestly, it's not as bad as I've heard some people say (if it was, I'd make time to get rid of it); but it's not worth getting, either.

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                  Trevortni wrote:

                  You're lying somewhere

                  No need to be insulting


                  only two letters away from being an asset

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                  Trevortni
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                  No insults, just the facts. You probably just didn't read my whole complaint against Vista or something.

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                  • T Trevortni

                    No insults, just the facts. You probably just didn't read my whole complaint against Vista or something.

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                    Trevortni wrote:

                    No insults

                    Trevortni wrote: You're lying somewhere Don't know what part of the world you are from but around here it is pretty insulting and inflammatory to call someone a lier.


                    only two letters away from being an asset

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                    • L Lost User

                      I'm not dumb. And who uses 32bit anymore? In 32bit mode you waste so much register space it's just ridiculous - and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

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                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      I'm not dumb.

                      Good. Thanks for clearing that up.

                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      And who uses 32bit anymore?

                      Lots of people. The majorty of people. Me. Our entire development team, and all our users.

                      harold aptroot wrote:

                      and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

                      If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine? That's dumb :)

                      Take a chill pill, Daddy-o .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                        Trevortni wrote:

                        No insults

                        Trevortni wrote: You're lying somewhere Don't know what part of the world you are from but around here it is pretty insulting and inflammatory to call someone a lier.


                        only two letters away from being an asset

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                        Trevortni
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                        It's also insulting to lie. Ooh, I shouldn't post this, but you just made this fun. Anyway, if the shoe fits....

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                        • L Lost User

                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          I'm not dumb.

                          Good. Thanks for clearing that up.

                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          And who uses 32bit anymore?

                          Lots of people. The majorty of people. Me. Our entire development team, and all our users.

                          harold aptroot wrote:

                          and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

                          If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine? That's dumb :)

                          Take a chill pill, Daddy-o .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                          maxxx# wrote:

                          If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine?

                          Exactly. And it is dumb. But then, it's vista.. I've not yet seen proof of Vista x64 running smoothly with any amount of RAM though - but then, 4GB was the highest amount I tested.

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                          • M Mike Dimmick

                            It's the same thing. The Windows Server 2008 kernel is the same as the Windows Vista SP1 kernel - Windows Server 2008 RTM even identifies itself as SP1 in the system properties control panel. Microsoft have tried very hard to make them as compatible as possible to ensure that they only need to provide one set of updates, rather than two. For example, read the file information for the July 2008 Windows Explorer update[^]. Save yourself some money - get Windows Vista!

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                            si618
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                            From what I have read, I don't believe that's the case[^]. Please feel free to refute at your leisure. Also, we have the action pack, so there is no saving of money using Vista over Win2008.

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                            • T Trevortni

                              Mostly solved? As posted in another reply earlier, my dev machine dual boots XP and Vista. XP lets me set the resolution on my monitor up to 1400x1050, which is about perfect. Vista maxes out at about 1024x768 (or was it lower than that? I don't switch over to Vista if I don't have to). Exact same hardware, but Vista doesn't work right. Go figure.

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                              Christian Schiffer
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                              Most hardware I have encountered fully support Vista now, try spending some time finding the right drives that might help, good luck. By the way whats your graphic card make and model? Maybe I can help...

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                              • D djwild

                                The computer I am talking about is a Dell laptop with 320GB hard drive, Core 2 duo running at 2Ghz, 4 GB RAM and 256 MB dedicated video RAM. I just said that repartitioning is not an option, the hard drive is otherwise big enough. So Vista does have 15GB entirely dedicated to it, but it seems that even this is not enough.

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                                Christian Schiffer
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                                Your right, 15 GB was enough for XP, on Vista I would recommend at least 30 GB free space, I fact I use a 73 GB drive as system drive. If repartitioning is a problem for you you might want to look at some software products out there who can help you to repartition without having to format the drive, like partition magic. Also I never had a problem using it it is never the less recommended to backup at least your critical files before doing that, just in case. Hope this can be off some help for you. Cheers

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                                • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                  Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                  Ken_GHill
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                                  I think it is definately a bit slower than XP, but as a person who designs windows client application UIs, I wanted to stay current and be familiar with the most up to date Microsoft UI paradigms. I do think it is pretty slick looking in general, though. And once I turned off all of their default security features, I think it works pretty smoothly.

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                                  • E Ed Poore

                                    Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                                    Ed Leighton Dick
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                                    Are you using SP2 on SQL Server 2005? I know you have to be at least at that release level in order for it to run properly on Vista.

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                                    • E Ed Leighton Dick

                                      Are you using SP2 on SQL Server 2005? I know you have to be at least at that release level in order for it to run properly on Vista.

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                                      Ed Poore
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                                      Not 100% sure, downloading it now thanks.

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                                      • C Christian Schiffer

                                        Most hardware I have encountered fully support Vista now, try spending some time finding the right drives that might help, good luck. By the way whats your graphic card make and model? Maybe I can help...

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                                        Trevortni
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                                        NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS I have spent a lot of time trying to find the right drivers. But the official drivers at the manufacturer's website don't let me get full resolution on Vista. For that matter, when I installed them on XP, they killed the resolution there as well.

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                                        • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                          Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                          Rocky Moore
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                                          Like others, I have used this for my development box. Been using it since the betas and love it. There were a few quirks to get use to in the beginning, but it is the most "complete" and stable version of Windows yet (have not used 2008 yet though). At first I was bugged by the new file explorer, but as with much of Vista, after a little getting use to it, I would hate to go back to the old file explorer now. While not a big priority, I do like the voice recognition that is built in, it is a nice bonus.

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