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  • M Mohammad Dayyan

    Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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    My advice: stick to XP. Some will agree, some will disagree. My experiences, however, have not been particularly great. Vista is pretty, and some features are very nice. But Vista can be slow and clunky where it doesn't have to be; Vista settings can be a pain in the neck; and Vista is not compatible with a lot of things. I have it on one of my machines; it won't be going on any others, and, if I had time to wipe it and download the billion plus drivers (it's a high performance laptop that came with Vista) that I need for all my hardware, I'd get rid of it. Honestly, it's not as bad as I've heard some people say (if it was, I'd make time to get rid of it); but it's not worth getting, either.

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      Trevortni wrote:

      You're lying somewhere

      No need to be insulting


      only two letters away from being an asset

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      Trevortni
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      No insults, just the facts. You probably just didn't read my whole complaint against Vista or something.

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        No insults, just the facts. You probably just didn't read my whole complaint against Vista or something.

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        Trevortni wrote:

        No insults

        Trevortni wrote: You're lying somewhere Don't know what part of the world you are from but around here it is pretty insulting and inflammatory to call someone a lier.


        only two letters away from being an asset

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        • L Lost User

          I'm not dumb. And who uses 32bit anymore? In 32bit mode you waste so much register space it's just ridiculous - and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

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          harold aptroot wrote:

          I'm not dumb.

          Good. Thanks for clearing that up.

          harold aptroot wrote:

          And who uses 32bit anymore?

          Lots of people. The majorty of people. Me. Our entire development team, and all our users.

          harold aptroot wrote:

          and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

          If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine? That's dumb :)

          Take a chill pill, Daddy-o .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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            Trevortni wrote:

            No insults

            Trevortni wrote: You're lying somewhere Don't know what part of the world you are from but around here it is pretty insulting and inflammatory to call someone a lier.


            only two letters away from being an asset

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            Trevortni
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            It's also insulting to lie. Ooh, I shouldn't post this, but you just made this fun. Anyway, if the shoe fits....

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              harold aptroot wrote:

              I'm not dumb.

              Good. Thanks for clearing that up.

              harold aptroot wrote:

              And who uses 32bit anymore?

              Lots of people. The majorty of people. Me. Our entire development team, and all our users.

              harold aptroot wrote:

              and of course 3GB ram is simply not enough to run vista smoothly

              If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine? That's dumb :)

              Take a chill pill, Daddy-o .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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              maxxx# wrote:

              If that was the case, then you are saying that Vista 32 bit cannot run smoothly on any machine?

              Exactly. And it is dumb. But then, it's vista.. I've not yet seen proof of Vista x64 running smoothly with any amount of RAM though - but then, 4GB was the highest amount I tested.

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              • M Mike Dimmick

                It's the same thing. The Windows Server 2008 kernel is the same as the Windows Vista SP1 kernel - Windows Server 2008 RTM even identifies itself as SP1 in the system properties control panel. Microsoft have tried very hard to make them as compatible as possible to ensure that they only need to provide one set of updates, rather than two. For example, read the file information for the July 2008 Windows Explorer update[^]. Save yourself some money - get Windows Vista!

                DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991

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                si618
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                From what I have read, I don't believe that's the case[^]. Please feel free to refute at your leisure. Also, we have the action pack, so there is no saving of money using Vista over Win2008.

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                • T Trevortni

                  Mostly solved? As posted in another reply earlier, my dev machine dual boots XP and Vista. XP lets me set the resolution on my monitor up to 1400x1050, which is about perfect. Vista maxes out at about 1024x768 (or was it lower than that? I don't switch over to Vista if I don't have to). Exact same hardware, but Vista doesn't work right. Go figure.

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                  Christian Schiffer
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                  Most hardware I have encountered fully support Vista now, try spending some time finding the right drives that might help, good luck. By the way whats your graphic card make and model? Maybe I can help...

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                  • D djwild

                    The computer I am talking about is a Dell laptop with 320GB hard drive, Core 2 duo running at 2Ghz, 4 GB RAM and 256 MB dedicated video RAM. I just said that repartitioning is not an option, the hard drive is otherwise big enough. So Vista does have 15GB entirely dedicated to it, but it seems that even this is not enough.

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                    Christian Schiffer
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                    Your right, 15 GB was enough for XP, on Vista I would recommend at least 30 GB free space, I fact I use a 73 GB drive as system drive. If repartitioning is a problem for you you might want to look at some software products out there who can help you to repartition without having to format the drive, like partition magic. Also I never had a problem using it it is never the less recommended to backup at least your critical files before doing that, just in case. Hope this can be off some help for you. Cheers

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                    • M Mohammad Dayyan

                      Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                      Ken_GHill
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                      I think it is definately a bit slower than XP, but as a person who designs windows client application UIs, I wanted to stay current and be familiar with the most up to date Microsoft UI paradigms. I do think it is pretty slick looking in general, though. And once I turned off all of their default security features, I think it works pretty smoothly.

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                      • E Ed Poore

                        Off topic, have you got any suggestions for installing SQL Server 2005 onto a Vista x64 machine with VS2008?  I've installed it and runs quite happily via Management Studio but if I try and add a database inside Visual Studio 2008 (e.g. working with ASP.NET websites) then it says it's not installed :confused:. I also have access (through DreamSpark) to the developer edition but still the x86 version I think.  Keeping in mind this machine was "built" a year ago and thus can't remember which editions I installed (got a vague recollection it was the x64 edition of SQL Server), but any ideas on how to solve this issue? Thannks if you can, and thanks if you can't

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                        Ed Leighton Dick
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                        Are you using SP2 on SQL Server 2005? I know you have to be at least at that release level in order for it to run properly on Vista.

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                        • E Ed Leighton Dick

                          Are you using SP2 on SQL Server 2005? I know you have to be at least at that release level in order for it to run properly on Vista.

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                          Ed Poore
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                          Not 100% sure, downloading it now thanks.

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                            Most hardware I have encountered fully support Vista now, try spending some time finding the right drives that might help, good luck. By the way whats your graphic card make and model? Maybe I can help...

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                            Trevortni
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                            NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS I have spent a lot of time trying to find the right drivers. But the official drivers at the manufacturer's website don't let me get full resolution on Vista. For that matter, when I installed them on XP, they killed the resolution there as well.

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                            • M Mohammad Dayyan

                              Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                              Rocky Moore
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                              Like others, I have used this for my development box. Been using it since the betas and love it. There were a few quirks to get use to in the beginning, but it is the most "complete" and stable version of Windows yet (have not used 2008 yet though). At first I was bugged by the new file explorer, but as with much of Vista, after a little getting use to it, I would hate to go back to the old file explorer now. While not a big priority, I do like the voice recognition that is built in, it is a nice bonus.

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                              • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                KarstenK
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                                Try it out: you can install it and have 30 days to activate (Trial time) Microsoft has done some nice and important stuff. ;) But it is slooooweeer than XP. You better have an actual PC: importeant 2 GB RAM and 128 MB Graphics And you better check that for all of your hardware are Vista compatible drivers and programs.

                                Greetings from Germany

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  I used to, but in my laptops case it was a bit less responsive than my XP machine when I upgraded to 4gb (3gb) of ram the relative performance difference vanished. I've been told 2gb is the magic number, but never tested with 1 stick of ram removed.

                                  Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                  The Cake of Deceit
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                                  Did I mention it runs smoothly?

                                  Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game UNO.


                                  In the movie "The Matrix", Chuck Norris is the Matrix. If you pay close attention in the green "falling code" scenes, you can make out the faint texture of his beard.


                                  Chuck Norris actually owns IBM. It was an extremely hostile takeover.

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                                    Did I mention it runs smoothly?

                                    Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game UNO.


                                    In the movie "The Matrix", Chuck Norris is the Matrix. If you pay close attention in the green "falling code" scenes, you can make out the faint texture of his beard.


                                    Chuck Norris actually owns IBM. It was an extremely hostile takeover.

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    I didn't say it wouldn't, but it'll run much nicer if you can scrape together the cash for a 2nd gig.

                                    Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                    • D Dan Neely

                                      I didn't say it wouldn't, but it'll run much nicer if you can scrape together the cash for a 2nd gig.

                                      Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall

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                                      The Cake of Deceit
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                                      With Visual Studio and several other apps. Too lazy to buy something when I don't need it.

                                      Chuck Norris has the greatest Poker-Face of all time. He won the 1983 World Series of Poker, despite holding only a Joker, a Get out of Jail Free Monopoloy card, a 2 of clubs, 7 of spades and a green #4 card from the game UNO.


                                      In the movie "The Matrix", Chuck Norris is the Matrix. If you pay close attention in the green "falling code" scenes, you can make out the faint texture of his beard.


                                      Chuck Norris actually owns IBM. It was an extremely hostile takeover.

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                                      • M Mohammad Dayyan

                                        Hi there. I'm using WinXp SP2. I'd like to know , it's good to use Windows Vista now ? Why? What are your reasons ?

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                                        DMPF
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                                        IF YOU HAVE THE RECOMMENDED HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS THEN YOU WILL ENJOY IT. IF NOT YOU WILL GO AND CURSE IT ALL OVER THE INTERNET AS IF VISTA IS TO BLAME

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          If you go 64 bit, just make sure you're not developing with people rnning 32 bit! We have one developer in our team runnng 64 bit (long story) and the amount of angst it causes (3rd party tools not available, specific code in project builds to decide which machine it's being built on etc.) outweights its usefulness (in fact, I haven't seen and good side to 64 bit vista at all, frankly, in what we laughingly call the real world)

                                          Take a chill pill, Daddy-o .\\axxx (That's an 'M')

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          maxxx# wrote:

                                          (in fact, I haven't seen and good side to 64 bit vista at all, frankly, in what we laughingly call the real world)

                                          weird... I am using 64bit Vista for 3D graphics production using VS2003 & VS2005 and Qt. I guess the real world is not 3D physics and massive landscapes, remote control of air-craft (at least building the software, it still controls the air-craft from XP, though soon Linux). :) I have even toyed with CUDA from 64bit Vista. :)

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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