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  • A Adnan Siddiqi

    When "civilized" nation could mistreat her[^] then how do you people consider something lovely in a 3rd world country? I repeat, fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

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    Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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    I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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      Ravel H. Joyce wrote:

      The Holy Acid of Allah

      That reminds me of something...[^]

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      • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

        I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

        Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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        Gets my 5.

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          From the horse's mouth: "Once Allah's Apostle went out to the Musalla (to offer the prayer) o 'Id-al-Adha or Al-Fitr prayer. Then he passed by the women and said, "O women! Give alms, as I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women)." They asked, "Why is it so, O Allah's Apostle ?" He replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. I have not seen anyone more deficient in intelligence and religion than you. A cautious sensible man could be led astray by some of you." The women asked, "O Allah's Apostle! What is deficient in our intelligence and religion?" He said, "Is not the evidence of two women equal to the witness of one man?" They replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her intelligence. Isn't it true that a woman can neither pray nor fast during her menses?" The women replied in the affirmative. He said, "This is the deficiency in her religion." ~ Bukhari 6:301 On the other hand women can be treated as party favors: "From the captives of Hunayn, Allah's Messenger gave Ali a slave girl called Baytab and he gave Uthman a slave girl called Zaynab and Umar another." ~ Ishaq 593 Below is why you need more than one wife: The Prophet said, "None of you should flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her in the last part of the day." ~ Bukhari 7:62:132 i.e. If you have two wives you can whip the crap out of one and then get your rocks off with the other. I find I need to remind myself that these are not quaint relics of the past like some rather bloodthirsty parts of the Old Testament, but the basis of Sharia law as it is practiced in much of the Middle East and as the Archbishop of Canterbury thinks it should be practiced in England.

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          Mycroft Holmes
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          Oakman wrote:

          the Archbishop of Canterbury thinks it should be practiced in England.

          You're joking right, surely the AB is not that near sighted.

          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

            I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

            Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

            on God's Earth

            Thats part of the problem, different God, different morals (or none) and different ethics. The weird thing is they beleive they are right.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • A Adnan Siddiqi

              When "civilized" nation could mistreat her[^] then how do you people consider something lovely in a 3rd world country? I repeat, fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

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              Bulky Fellow
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              Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

              her[^]

              Isn't she that sis of yours? the one you had incestous sex with (a perfectly acceptable norm in your society) and produced those retarded three fingered things? Yes? Alright, I thought so too. By the way, have you bought yourself a penis yet? :rose:

              ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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                Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                her[^]

                Isn't she that sis of yours? the one you had incestous sex with (a perfectly acceptable norm in your society) and produced those retarded three fingered things? Yes? Alright, I thought so too. By the way, have you bought yourself a penis yet? :rose:

                ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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                Christian Graus
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                Actually, I asked this ( but more politely ) and he said no. too bad he didn't respond to threads where I asked real questions, but.

                Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                  I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

                  Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                  Go Girl go!!!! :)

                  pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]

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                  • A Adnan Siddiqi

                    When "civilized" nation could mistreat her[^] then how do you people consider something lovely in a 3rd world country? I repeat, fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

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                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                    fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

                    You should take your own advice.

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                      Adnan Siddiqi
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                      not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society.

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                      • C Christian Graus

                        I sure would love it if you had the guts to continue our discussion. In the meantime, what you seem to be saying is that you support Muslims beating and torturing their women en masse, but you decry the rights of one woman who you believe has been mistreated by the West ? In other words, women have no rights, of themselves, but heaven forbid if a foreigner mistreat one before we get the chance to do it ourselves ? I think that's a good job of distorting your position the way you distort mine, what do you think ?

                        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                        Adnan Siddiqi
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                        Christian Graus wrote:

                        our discussion

                        Since when did you do any discussion? You are just pissed that I showed you mirror about your "own" Christian faith and you are still retaliating. ;)

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                        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                          I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

                          Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                          Adnan Siddiqi
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                          so did you point your finger or even poked in the eyes of Americans who misbehaved a Pakistani woman in the custody?

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                          • B Bulky Fellow

                            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                            her[^]

                            Isn't she that sis of yours? the one you had incestous sex with (a perfectly acceptable norm in your society) and produced those retarded three fingered things? Yes? Alright, I thought so too. By the way, have you bought yourself a penis yet? :rose:

                            ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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                            Adnan Siddiqi
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                            Don't worry. If it was done with your mom/sister/daughter/wife then I would have regretted and hurt similarly.

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                            • A Adnan Siddiqi

                              so did you point your finger or even poked in the eyes of Americans who misbehaved a Pakistani woman in the custody?

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                              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                              I condemn such behaviour regardless of whoever is responsible. Do you???

                              Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                Go Girl go!!!! :)

                                pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]

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                                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                I do try. :-O

                                Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                  Christian Graus wrote:

                                  our discussion

                                  Since when did you do any discussion? You are just pissed that I showed you mirror about your "own" Christian faith and you are still retaliating. ;)

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                                  Christian Graus
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                                  It is interesting to me that you continue to tell yourself that. Who are you trying to convince ? I promise you that the only mirror you've shown me is a disturbing mirror into what I hope is not the view of Islam in general. I am not retaliating, I am taking the time to force you to either be honest, or go away. I'd prefer the former, are you capable of it ? Can you actually discuss/respond to me ? Or can you just name call ?

                                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                    I condemn such behaviour regardless of whoever is responsible. Do you???

                                    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                    Adnan Siddiqi
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                                    Offcourse I condemn and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women. ot: could somebody record this thread somewhere so that nobody asks me in future about whether I promote Women violence or condemn it. most of SB members are in older age hence suffering memory lost issue.

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                                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                      Offcourse I condemn and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women. ot: could somebody record this thread somewhere so that nobody asks me in future about whether I promote Women violence or condemn it. most of SB members are in older age hence suffering memory lost issue.

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                                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                      Offcourse I condemn...

                                      About bloody time. What took you so long to say it?

                                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                      ...and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women.

                                      I did. As I said before, I condemn any violence or discrimination - in particular against women or vulnerable LGBT people - irrespective of who commits it. When it is state sanctioned (e.g. women being jailed for being raped) it is even more represensible. Hence my complete abhorance of religious or state sanctioned inequality or injustice.

                                      Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                      • P Paul Conrad

                                        Yes, I did mean babble :-O

                                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                                        Yes, I did mean babble

                                        well, he babbled so I guess you get 5 crystal ball points

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                                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                          not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society.

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                                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                          not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society

                                          The difference between the human rights problems in the west and the human rights problems in sharia law countries is the difference between a medium-sized hill and K2. Even the history of your country - or at least the part of the world it occupies demonstrates how intolerant and unappealing Islam can make countries. a thousand years ago, the Pakistan region was hailed as civilized - a home for the arts and sciences as well as fearsome warriors. Since the Muslim invasion, it has been a backwater, sneered at by the Hindus, the British, and the Arabs alike.

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