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  • A Adnan Siddiqi

    When "civilized" nation could mistreat her[^] then how do you people consider something lovely in a 3rd world country? I repeat, fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

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    73Zeppelin
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    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

    fix yourself FIRST then raise your finger because when you raise a finger then other 3 point to you.

    You should take your own advice.

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      Adnan Siddiqi
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      not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society.

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        I sure would love it if you had the guts to continue our discussion. In the meantime, what you seem to be saying is that you support Muslims beating and torturing their women en masse, but you decry the rights of one woman who you believe has been mistreated by the West ? In other words, women have no rights, of themselves, but heaven forbid if a foreigner mistreat one before we get the chance to do it ourselves ? I think that's a good job of distorting your position the way you distort mine, what do you think ?

        Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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        Christian Graus wrote:

        our discussion

        Since when did you do any discussion? You are just pissed that I showed you mirror about your "own" Christian faith and you are still retaliating. ;)

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        • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

          I'll point a finger at any man who abuses women regardless of their nation, thank you. The "men" who did this are not even worthy of being called animals - they are disgusting, evil creatures who have no place on God's Earth. If you defend such people, you are beyond contempt. Know this: until women (and LBGT people, for that matter) have equal rights throughout the world, there are many of us who will never rest. Inequality is to be condemned whereever it is found - and irrespective of nation. If you think that I will defend my own nation while condemning others, think again - I quite simply won't.

          Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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          Adnan Siddiqi
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          so did you point your finger or even poked in the eyes of Americans who misbehaved a Pakistani woman in the custody?

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            Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

            her[^]

            Isn't she that sis of yours? the one you had incestous sex with (a perfectly acceptable norm in your society) and produced those retarded three fingered things? Yes? Alright, I thought so too. By the way, have you bought yourself a penis yet? :rose:

            ASP - AJAX is SEXY. PERIOD.

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            Adnan Siddiqi
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            Don't worry. If it was done with your mom/sister/daughter/wife then I would have regretted and hurt similarly.

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            • A Adnan Siddiqi

              so did you point your finger or even poked in the eyes of Americans who misbehaved a Pakistani woman in the custody?

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              Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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              I condemn such behaviour regardless of whoever is responsible. Do you???

              Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                Go Girl go!!!! :)

                pseudonym67 My Articles[^] Beginning KDevelop Programming[^]

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                Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                I do try. :-O

                Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                • A Adnan Siddiqi

                  Christian Graus wrote:

                  our discussion

                  Since when did you do any discussion? You are just pissed that I showed you mirror about your "own" Christian faith and you are still retaliating. ;)

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                  Christian Graus
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                  It is interesting to me that you continue to tell yourself that. Who are you trying to convince ? I promise you that the only mirror you've shown me is a disturbing mirror into what I hope is not the view of Islam in general. I am not retaliating, I am taking the time to force you to either be honest, or go away. I'd prefer the former, are you capable of it ? Can you actually discuss/respond to me ? Or can you just name call ?

                  Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                    I condemn such behaviour regardless of whoever is responsible. Do you???

                    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                    Adnan Siddiqi
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                    Offcourse I condemn and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women. ot: could somebody record this thread somewhere so that nobody asks me in future about whether I promote Women violence or condemn it. most of SB members are in older age hence suffering memory lost issue.

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                    • A Adnan Siddiqi

                      Offcourse I condemn and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women. ot: could somebody record this thread somewhere so that nobody asks me in future about whether I promote Women violence or condemn it. most of SB members are in older age hence suffering memory lost issue.

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                      Anna Jayne Metcalfe
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                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      Offcourse I condemn...

                      About bloody time. What took you so long to say it?

                      Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                      ...and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women.

                      I did. As I said before, I condemn any violence or discrimination - in particular against women or vulnerable LGBT people - irrespective of who commits it. When it is state sanctioned (e.g. women being jailed for being raped) it is even more represensible. Hence my complete abhorance of religious or state sanctioned inequality or injustice.

                      Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        Yes, I did mean babble :-O

                        "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                        Paul Conrad wrote:

                        Yes, I did mean babble

                        well, he babbled so I guess you get 5 crystal ball points

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                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                          not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society.

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                          Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                          not at all but person who is pointing finger at me failed to find out filth in his own society

                          The difference between the human rights problems in the west and the human rights problems in sharia law countries is the difference between a medium-sized hill and K2. Even the history of your country - or at least the part of the world it occupies demonstrates how intolerant and unappealing Islam can make countries. a thousand years ago, the Pakistan region was hailed as civilized - a home for the arts and sciences as well as fearsome warriors. Since the Muslim invasion, it has been a backwater, sneered at by the Hindus, the British, and the Arabs alike.

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                          • C Christian Graus

                            It is interesting to me that you continue to tell yourself that. Who are you trying to convince ? I promise you that the only mirror you've shown me is a disturbing mirror into what I hope is not the view of Islam in general. I am not retaliating, I am taking the time to force you to either be honest, or go away. I'd prefer the former, are you capable of it ? Can you actually discuss/respond to me ? Or can you just name call ?

                            Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.

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                            I am taking the time to force you to either be honest, or go away.

                            To force him to really look at himself and his religion will make him hate you.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                              They probably treat their livestock better than their wives. While I am sure there are many who would never think of doing such a thing, it is still too commonplace and it does not seem the government is doing enough. In the one case they said the guy was arrested for attempted murder, but how much punishment does one get there for something like that? I'm glad to see there is a charity involved to help these women; hopefully the story will bring in funds.

                              Blog link to be reinstated at a later date.

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                              They probably treat their livestock better than their wives.

                              Absolutely, livestock do work and bring income. A wife is a play thing to them, just a possession.


                              Visit BoneSoft.com for code generation tools (XML & XSD -> C#, VB, etc...) and some free developer tools as well.

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                              • O Oakman

                                Paul Conrad wrote:

                                Yes, I did mean babble

                                well, he babbled so I guess you get 5 crystal ball points

                                Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                Oakman wrote:

                                he babbled so I guess you get 5 crystal ball points

                                [Homer Simpson Voice] Woohoo!

                                "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                • O Oakman

                                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                                  Yes, I did mean babble

                                  well, he babbled so I guess you get 5 crystal ball points

                                  Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                  Oakman wrote:

                                  he babbled

                                  Yeah, well I modified Diego's script to include him :-\

                                  "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                  • A Anna Jayne Metcalfe

                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    Offcourse I condemn...

                                    About bloody time. What took you so long to say it?

                                    Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                    ...and pls do visit the above thread about treatment by Americans with their women.

                                    I did. As I said before, I condemn any violence or discrimination - in particular against women or vulnerable LGBT people - irrespective of who commits it. When it is state sanctioned (e.g. women being jailed for being raped) it is even more represensible. Hence my complete abhorance of religious or state sanctioned inequality or injustice.

                                    Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                    I did. As I said before, I condemn any violence or discrimination

                                    did where? why can't I see your clear reply there? or I missed something??

                                    Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                    What took you so long to say it?

                                    if you are incapable due to memory lost then don't curse me. check archive. Chris had reasons to provide the feature.

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                                    • O Oakman

                                      Christian Graus wrote:

                                      I am taking the time to force you to either be honest, or go away.

                                      To force him to really look at himself and his religion will make him hate you.

                                      Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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                                      Adnan Siddiqi
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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      his religion will make him hate you.

                                      Really but since when I started following this verse of your Bible? All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman(2 Chronicles 15:13) OOPS!

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                                      • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                        Oakman wrote:

                                        his religion will make him hate you.

                                        Really but since when I started following this verse of your Bible? All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman(2 Chronicles 15:13) OOPS!

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                                        Adnan Siddiqi wrote:

                                        All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman

                                        There are many quotes that can be taken from the Old Testament that demonstrate a hatred for all other religions among the Jews of antiquity. However, no legal system anywhere in the world is based on these outdated precepts. On the other hand Shariah Law requires the enforcement of every saying of the Prophet, such as "For them is drink of boiling water and a painful doom, because they disbelieved." Is that not so?

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                                        • A Adnan Siddiqi

                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                          I did. As I said before, I condemn any violence or discrimination

                                          did where? why can't I see your clear reply there? or I missed something??

                                          Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote:

                                          What took you so long to say it?

                                          if you are incapable due to memory lost then don't curse me. check archive. Chris had reasons to provide the feature.

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                                          You obviously did., As you say, "check the archives." ;P

                                          Anna :rose: Having a bad bug day? Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "If mushy peas are the food of the devil, the stotty cake is the frisbee of God"

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