Continuing Linux Problems
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Yeah I tried it once (Ubuntu) but could never even get it to boot (the screen would just display loads of corrupt random garbage and mouse / keyboard would have no effect). I tried some other one (can't remember the name) and could never get the mouse cursor to move so ended up giving up.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Apple cheats by limiting hardware to a known proprietary configuration.
Oh, I know. There's just no comparison, because they control both the hardware and the software. But, nevertheless, I needed to say how much I love it.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
Christian Graus wrote:
But, nevertheless, I needed to say how much I love it.
It's a common feeling amongst OS X users :-)
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I don't like Vista at all.
Christian Graus No longer a Microsoft MVP, but still happy to answer your questions.
at this moment i feel like beating up any developer that had part in that crap!!!!(see my vista annoyance post in C# forum) Why cant their software just work? Ill tell you why, its the classic case of "Its compiles, lets ship it!"
Harvey Saayman - South Africa Junior Developer .Net, C#, SQL
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Christian Graus wrote:
OSX on the other hand, is pure heaven.
Try installing OSX on John's hardware... :rolleyes:
I think any attempt to install OSX on my hardware would instantly create a black hole in central Texas. LHC - EAT MY DUST!
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Do you realize newer Creative cards do not work under Linux?
xacc.ide - now with TabsToSpaces support
IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 4a out now (29 May 2008)This card is 10 years old. How is that "new"?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Why bother?
Kevin
Because of Vista. It looks like I'm going to have to stick with XP.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Because of Vista. It looks like I'm going to have to stick with XP.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001In case you have a laptop, chances are that you will find a detailed guide on the web with all the workarounds for the problems you may encounter for your model. I have a Dell Inspiron 1501 and I found this great blog to help me out www.ubuntu1501.com[^]. Also, there are the Ubuntu forums... Good luck! Ubuntu is really a delight once you make it run properly. :)
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I have Slackware
Believe me – you don’t want to do this! You probably will stick with editing huge conf files, just with a hope to make your mouse scroll working. Several years ago I was spend one week in hell trying to install Kylix/Linux dedicated IDE/ on this Slackware.
The narrow specialist in the broad sense of the word is a complete idiot in the narrow sense of the word.
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I say - right tool for the right job. Linux is great as a web server, and I like it as a development platform but don't even bother installing any graphical environment - just use it from command line. If you want a home/office machine, your choice is clear: PC with Windows (btw, Vista rocks!) or Mac with OS X.
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
In case you have a laptop, chances are that you will find a detailed guide on the web with all the workarounds for the problems you may encounter for your model. I have a Dell Inspiron 1501 and I found this great blog to help me out www.ubuntu1501.com[^]. Also, there are the Ubuntu forums... Good luck! Ubuntu is really a delight once you make it run properly. :)
I have a laptop, but what does that have to do with putting Linux on my desktop machine? I have been on the ubuntu forums, and not of their "sound how-to" stuff worked. When I post here about Linux, I'm not looking for help - I'm ranting (because I'm pissed off), which implies I'm beyond seeking help.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Which Ubuntu did you try? I found the full version installed fine and works very well.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
7.n, and 8.n, Ubuntu and Kubuntu, 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I agree - but I merely tried it out because I got it from an MSDN Subscription, then couldn't be bothered to downgrade again. The Vista installer is hopeless - or was a couple of years back when I installed it, I'm not sure if that's improved or not; my guess is that it hasnt :( Regards, --Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia Introduction to Object-Oriented JavaScript
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Not sure what you are getting at, the Vista installer is having less questions and is several times better than the XP installer. It handles imagining through the Windows PE environment and installation is at least as smooth as XP.
When I installed Vista, the installation process was a nightmare :sigh: Regards, --Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia Introduction to Object-Oriented JavaScript
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Why do you want to like Linux? If I were you I would bother less about which OS you are using and more about a working computer whatever OS gets you there. I myself like working computers
Because John is a vista refusenik. Until fairly recently he was an XP refusenik too. As much as he'll vocally deny it, in a few years I firmly expect him to be posting "You can have my DOS6.22 win98 win2k winXP vista CD when you pry it from my cold dead hands every time someone extolls the virtues of windows 7." :rolleyes:
Today's lesson is brought to you by the word "niggardly". Remember kids, don't attribute to racism what can be explained by Scandinavian language roots. -- Robert Royall
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- Installed Ubuntu - no sound, video difficulties (couldn't get dual monitor stuff to work - it borked up the X server beyond reason) 1) Installed PCLinux OS - no sound, video difficulties (forced to use command line to install video drivers, wouldn't let me select appropriate resolution) 2) Installed Debian 4.0 (64-bit) - no system sounds, but playing videos seems to work, video difficulties (allowed me to select 1620x1050 as allowable resolution during install, but could not select it from video settings) 3) Tried to install Fedora 9 (64-bit) - stopped installing after it correctly detected my video card and tried to start X server (I could have sworn the Fedora installer was graphical, but this one wasn't) I have Slackware, Suse, and Linspire left to try, but I'm not inclined to do so. I'm thinking the sound problems are due to the fact that I have a Audigy sound card installed on a motherboard with built-in sound. Despite being disabled in the BIOS, Linux is trying to use the onboard sound (while detecting the Audigy card). I've had this problem with built-in NICs as well (onboard NIC disabled in BIOS, but Linux tries to use it anyway). This is 2008. Linux shouldn't still be having these kinds of issues. I shouldn't have to go to the command line to build modules, install drivers, select video resolution, or make sure the sound mixer is setup correctly. I shouldn't have problems when I tell the system that I have a wide-screen monitor capable of a specific resolution, only to have the OS essentially tell me to pack sand. This is basic system functionality, fer christ's sake... I want to like Linux, but XP is simply easier to deal with...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I've had Mandriva[^] (formerly Mandrake Linux) recommended recently, and planning to give it a go at some stage. No one's mentioned it - I guess it's not one of the most popular distros.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
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I've had Mandriva[^] (formerly Mandrake Linux) recommended recently, and planning to give it a go at some stage. No one's mentioned it - I guess it's not one of the most popular distros.
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
Yeah, I mentioned it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
When I installed Vista, the installation process was a nightmare :sigh: Regards, --Perspx
"The Blue Screen of Death, also known as The Blue Screen of Doom, the "Blue Screen of Fun", "Phatul Exception: The WRECKening" and "Windows Vista", is a multi award-winning game first developed in 1995 by Microsoft" - Uncyclopedia Introduction to Object-Oriented JavaScript
