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Are you really sure you don't want to edit that?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Are you really sure you don't want to edit that?
alright. and no i have no reasoning behind it. typical knee jerk reaction of a 20 year old :(
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censored to hide juvenile'ness how about this: 72 year old guy 4 time cancer survivor, and a "hockey mom" who likes to kill and eat moose burgers
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modified on Thursday, September 4, 2008 1:47 PM
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how do you kill a mooseburger?
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
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Diego Moita wrote:
And reality has a well-known liberal bias
Not in the States. There is certainly an anti-Republican bias going around, based on the ineptness of the present administration to find the floor with it's collective hat. And that may be enough to get Obama into office. But, except for BosWash and LosFranSeatle the US remains pretty much center-right. The liberals in those states cannot decide this election any more than the conservatives of the Confederacy can. The more the Republicans can brand Obama as the liberal-est of the liberals, the less likely he is to carry states like Pennsylvania and Ohio. These are the Reagan democrats; the union-workers; the VFW crowd. They are used to voting for Republicans and many of them have done so all their lives. They are pissed, with good reason, at what the Republicans did to this country in the last eight years, but if McCain can give them a reason to reject Obama - such as "he's a tax-and-spend liberal," They may, with a certain amount of trepidation, decide to come home one more time.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
if McCain can give them a reason to reject Obama - such as "he's a tax-and-spend liberal
What worries me is just how much of a tax and spend guy is Mccain... His health care plans (tax credits for those not employer covered) would be paid for by taxing the benefits I receive as employer paid health insurance. That's clearly tax and spend from my point of view, and I'm the middle class goat that gets taxed. I find that sneaky, and little different from Obama's more direct tax and provide an insurance pool. In fact, with McCain's plan, the saps that get the tax credit might not have to spend it on anything sensible, much less health insurance....
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how do you kill a mooseburger?
Visit http://www.notreadytogiveup.com/[^] and do something special today.
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Oakman wrote:
Are you really sure you don't want to edit that?
alright. and no i have no reasoning behind it. typical knee jerk reaction of a 20 year old :(
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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what has she accomplished in her year?
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
what has she accomplished in her year?
80% approval rating.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Oakman wrote:
if McCain can give them a reason to reject Obama - such as "he's a tax-and-spend liberal
What worries me is just how much of a tax and spend guy is Mccain... His health care plans (tax credits for those not employer covered) would be paid for by taxing the benefits I receive as employer paid health insurance. That's clearly tax and spend from my point of view, and I'm the middle class goat that gets taxed. I find that sneaky, and little different from Obama's more direct tax and provide an insurance pool. In fact, with McCain's plan, the saps that get the tax credit might not have to spend it on anything sensible, much less health insurance....
Rob Graham wrote:
What worries me is just how much of a tax and spend guy is Mccain
But there's no need to worry about McCain's plans. Both houses of Congress are going to be Democratic. What he can do is veto the worst of their plans. Think about this - Hilary may decide she wants to replace Reid, if Obama gets in.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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A Wong wrote:
I assume she'll support Ron Paul then
9/11 conspiracy theorists please line up over there.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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what has she accomplished in her year?
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
what has she accomplished in her year?
Mayor of her hometown and governor of her state. But let's get back to your boy. What has he actually accomplished? Remember I actually live in Illinois so I know that he was a second tier state politician operating under the radar within Chicago's Democratic machine before weaseling his way into the US Senate. I can also add that since starting his campaign he has been almost completely absent from the Senate. I want my freaking money back!!!
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Rob Graham wrote:
What worries me is just how much of a tax and spend guy is Mccain
But there's no need to worry about McCain's plans. Both houses of Congress are going to be Democratic. What he can do is veto the worst of their plans. Think about this - Hilary may decide she wants to replace Reid, if Obama gets in.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
But there's no need to worry about McCain's plans.
True enough. It's the compromises he would accept that are worrisome.
Oakman wrote:
Hilary may decide she wants to replace Reid, if Obama gets in.
Actually, if we are to have universal Health care forced down our throats (and I believe we are), I'd prefer Hilary's version to both the others. Reid's a raving idiot and a closet Maoist, at least Hilary has some sense, and I think is a bit more to the center than Reid. More dangerous as an opponent, but in the majority might bring a semblance of sanity to that bunch.
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jgasm wrote:
call out someone with twice her years of experience
Oh my, he is a veritable gray beard! :rolleyes: I think you are missing the point, once again. Most normal people write their memoir after a long and distinguished career. Obama has written two and he is still a junior Senator who has done nothing of significance. Now, that is just plain funny. :)
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
Gary Kirkham wrote:
Now, that is just plain funny.
The $2M+ he's netted by doing so isn't so funny, however...
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i guess i am just confused then. so since obama has done nothing...it's okay to point that out. but i have not heard yet what Palin has done that is any better...or substitantive. it's the tired old "obama" is not qualified argument that has been going since this campaign started.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
jgasm wrote:
yet what Palin has done that is any better...or substitantive.
Runner up in a beauty contest Shot and field dressed a caribou Sportscaster (a job with pay) PTA president (a job with no pay) Mayor (a job with pay and accountability) Governor (a job with pay and accountability) Bore 5 children (a job, no pay) wrote 2 memoirs where she admitted to doing coke oops. Sat on a board that adiministered $49M in public and private funds with the goal of improving Chicago shools with no measurable results oops. Practices what she preaches by sharing her wealth with her disadvantaged step brother who lives in a hut in some God forsaken land oops.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
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Gary Kirkham wrote:
"But listening to him speak, it's easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs, but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate."
So I assume she's in support of experience as a requirement of being the President/VP of United States. I assume she'll support Ron Paul then. :laugh:
A Wong wrote:
A Wong
...doesn't make a right. :)
Gary Kirkham Forever Forgiven and Alive in the Spirit "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. Me blog, You read
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jgasm wrote:
typical knee jerk reaction of a 20 year old
You're 20!!?? Christ! So this is the first election that you actually get to vote for POTUS... You weren't even alive during Carter's reign of terror so I suppose this is to be expected. Sheesh!
Mike Mullikin wrote:
So this is the first election that you actually get to vote for POTUS
it's the second. and just in time too.
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Mike Mullikin wrote:
So this is the first election that you actually get to vote for POTUS
it's the second. and just in time too.
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jgasm wrote:
and just in time too.
So you are still sufficiently deluded as to believe your vote will actually matter? Did you vote at the 1st opportunity? Did it matter?
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Oakman wrote:
9/11 conspiracy theorists please line up over there.
I never heard Ron Paul spewing 9/11 conspiracy, though I did hear some senile old man doing a bad kareoke of Bomb Iran... :laugh:
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A Wong wrote:
I never heard Ron Paul spewing 9/11 conspiracy
Apparently they showed up at his anti-convention in droves. It was unfair of me to imply that he was one.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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jgasm wrote:
and just in time too.
So you are still sufficiently deluded as to believe your vote will actually matter? Did you vote at the 1st opportunity? Did it matter?
Rob Graham wrote:
So you are still sufficiently deluded as to believe your vote will actually matter?
oh im in idaho. we are voting mccain/palin. not matter what happens. we are more red than i take my steak.
Rob Graham wrote:
Did you vote at the 1st opportunity?
yes, because i could cast my vote to the red void that is idaho.
Rob Graham wrote:
Did it matter?
is this a follow up? nope :( it did not. at least not in the local elections. landslide.
----------------------------------------------------------- "When I first saw it, I just thought that you really, really enjoyed programming in java." - Leslie Sanford
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jgasm wrote:
yet what Palin has done that is any better...or substitantive.
Runner up in a beauty contest Shot and field dressed a caribou Sportscaster (a job with pay) PTA president (a job with no pay) Mayor (a job with pay and accountability) Governor (a job with pay and accountability) Bore 5 children (a job, no pay) wrote 2 memoirs where she admitted to doing coke oops. Sat on a board that adiministered $49M in public and private funds with the goal of improving Chicago shools with no measurable results oops. Practices what she preaches by sharing her wealth with her disadvantaged step brother who lives in a hut in some God forsaken land oops.
Mike - typical white guy. The USA does have universal healthcare, but you have to pay for it. D'oh. Thomas Mann - "Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." The NYT - my leftist brochure. Calling an illegal alien an “undocumented immigrant” is like calling a drug dealer an “unlicensed pharmacist”. God doesn't believe in atheists, therefore they don't exist.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Runner up in a beauty contest
OK, she's hot.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Shot and field dressed a caribou
How big of a caribou? Size matters, you know.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Sportscaster (a job with pay)
She can read from a teleprompter. I noticed that yesterday too.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
PTA president (a job with no pay)
With so many kids, that's a smart move, seriously.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Mayor (a job with pay and accountability)
OK, that's a step in the right direction. But let's look at her record there: - Reduced property taxes but increased sales taxes. - Fired the Wasilla police chief, citing a failure to support her administration. - Hired a DC lobbyist to bring $27 million in earmarks to the city. - Attempted to ban books from the city library. - Entered office with zero debt and left it with over $22 million in debt, including $15 million-plus for construction of a hockey center which was built on a piece of property that the city didn’t even have clear title to, a matter that is still in litigation.
Mike Gaskey wrote:
Governor (a job with pay and accountability)
That sounds better, but again, let's look at what she did there: - Became youngest and first female Governor of Alaska, taking office in December, 2006. Received 114,600 votes. The population of Alaska is 683,478 and more than 50% of the state budget comes from oil revenues, not taxes as in other states. Gross State Product: $44 billion (including the oil revenue). Ranking 45 of 50. - Auctioned off the Governor's jet on eBay. - Helped pass a tax increase on oil company profits. - Formed a sub-cabinet group of advisers to address climate change but does not accept that it is man-made. - Objected to listing polar bears as an endangered species because it might hurt oil and gas development in the bears' habitat. - Was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it. However, Alaska kept the federal money. - Denied her daughter was pregnant before she confirmed it. - Supported abstinence-only education. - Currently under a bipartisan investigation for abuse of power for dismissing Alaska's Public Safety Commissioner. - Commander-in-Chie